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Michael Moore: If the 'Mosque' Isn't Built, This Is No Longer America (Says build ON GROUND ZERO!)
Michael Moore's Website ^ | September 11, 2010 | Michael Moore

Posted on 09/11/2010 1:03:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

I am opposed to the building of the "mosque" two blocks from Ground Zero.

I want it built on Ground Zero.

Why? Because I believe in an America that protects those who are the victims of hate and prejudice. I believe in an America that says you have the right to worship whatever God you have, wherever you want to worship. And I believe in an America that says to the world that we are a loving and generous people and if a bunch of murderers steal your religion from you and use it as their excuse to kill 3,000 souls, then I want to help you get your religion back. And I want to put it at the spot where it was stolen from you.

There's been so much that's been said about this manufactured controversy, I really don't want to waste any time on this day of remembrance talking about it. But I hate bigotry and I hate liars, and so in case you missed any of the truth that's been lost in this, let me point out a few facts:

1. I love the Burlington Coat Factory. I've gotten some great winter coats there at a very reasonable price. Muslims have been holding their daily prayers there since 2009. No one ever complained about that. This is not going to be a "mosque," it's going to be a community center. It will have the same prayer room in it that's already there. But to even have to assure people that "it's not going to be mosque" is so offensive, I now wish they would just build a 111-story mosque there. That would be better than the lame and disgusting way the developer has left Ground Zero an empty hole until recently. The remains of over 1,100 people still haven't been found. That site is a sacred graveyard, and to be building another monument to commerce on it is a sacrilege. Why wasn't the entire site turned into a memorial peace park? People died there, and many of their remains are still strewn about, all these years later.

2. Guess who has helped the Muslims organize their plans for this community center? The JEWISH COMMUNITY CENTER of Manhattan! Their rabbi has been advising them since the beginning. It's been a picture-perfect example of the kind of world we all want to live in. Peter Stuyvessant, New York's "founder," tried to expel the first Jews who arrived in Manhattan. Then the Dutch said, no, that's a bit much. So then Stuyvessant said ok, you can stay, but you cannot build a synagogue anywhere in Manhattan. Do your stupid Friday night thing at home. The first Jewish temple was not allowed to be built until 1730. Then there was a revolution, and the founding fathers said this country has to be secular -- no religious nuts or state religions. George Washington (inaugurated around the corner from Ground Zero) wanted to make a statement about this his very first year in office, and wrote this to American Jews:

"The citizens of the United States of America have a right to applaud themselves for having given to mankind examples of an enlarged and liberal policy -- a policy worthy of imitation. ...

"It is now no more that toleration is spoken of as if it were the indulgence of one class of people that another enjoyed the exercise of their inherent natural rights, for, happily, the Government of the United States, which gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance, requires only that they who live under its protection should demean themselves as good citizens ...

"May the children of the stock of Abraham who dwell in this land continue to merit and enjoy the good will of the other inhabitants -- while every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and fig tree and there shall be none to make him afraid."

3. The Imam in charge of this project is the nicest guy you'd ever want to meet. Read about his past here.

4. Around five dozen Muslims died at the World Trade Center on 9/11. Hundreds of members of their families still grieve and suffer. The 19 killers did not care what religion anyone belonged to when they took those lives.

5. I've never read a sadder headline in the New York Times than the one on the front page this past Monday: "American Muslims Ask, Will We Ever Belong?" That should make all of us so ashamed that even a single one of our fellow citizens should ever have to worry about if they "belong" here.

6. There is a McDonald's two blocks from Ground Zero. Trust me, McDonald's has killed far more people than the terrorists.

7. During an economic depression or a time of war, fascists are extremely skilled at whipping up fear and hate and getting the working class to blame "the other" for their troubles. Lincoln's enemies told poor Southern whites that he was "a Catholic." FDR's opponents said he was Jewish and called him "Jewsevelt." One in five Americans now believe Obama is a Muslim and 41% of Republicans don't believe he was born here.

8. Blaming a whole group for the actions of just one of that group is anti-American. Timothy McVeigh was Catholic. Should Oklahoma City prohibit the building of a Catholic Church near the site of the former federal building that McVeigh blew up?

9. Let's face it, all religions have their whackos. Catholics have O'Reilly, Gingrich, Hannity and Clarence Thomas (in fact all five conservatives who dominate the Supreme Court are Catholic). Protestants have Pat Robertson and too many to list here. The Mormons have Glenn Beck. Jews have Crazy Eddie. But we don't judge whole religions on just the actions of their whackos. Unless they're Methodists.

10. If I should ever, God forbid, perish in a terrorist incident, and you or some nutty group uses my death as your justification to attack or discriminate against anyone in my name, I will come back and haunt you worse than Linda Blair marrying Freddy Krueger and moving into your bedroom to spawn Chucky. John Lennon was right when he asked us to imagine a world with "nothing to kill or die for and no religion, too." I heard Deepak Chopra this week say that "God gave humans the truth, and the devil came and he said, 'Let's give it a name and call it religion.' " But John Adams said it best when he wrote a sort of letter to the future (which he called "Posterity"): "Posterity! You will never know how much it cost the present Generation to preserve your Freedom! I hope you will make a good use of it. If you do not, I shall repent in Heaven that I ever took half the Pains to preserve it." I'm guessing ol' John Adams is up there repenting nonstop right now.

Friends, we all have a responsibility NOW to make sure that Muslim community center gets built. Once again, 70% of the country (the same number that initially supported the Iraq War) is on the wrong side and want the "mosque" moved. Enormous pressure has been put on the Imam to stop his project. We have to turn this thing around. Are we going to let the bullies and thugs win another one? Aren't you fed up by now? When would be a good time to take our country back from the haters?

I say right now. Let's each of us make a statement by donating to the building of this community center! It's a nonprofit, tax-exempt organization and you can donate a dollar or ten dollars (or more) right now through a secure pay pal account by clicking here. I will personally match the first $10,000 raised (forward your PayPal receipt to webguy@michaelmoore.com). If each one of you reading this blog/email donated just a couple of dollars, that would give the center over $6 million, more than what Donald Trump has offered to buy the Imam out. C'mon everyone, let's pitch in and help those who are being debased for simply wanting to do something good. We could all make a huge statement of love on this solemn day.

I lost a co-worker on 9/11. I write this today in his memory.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: 911; bloatedtick; burgerboy; groundzeromosque; islam; libertarians; michaelmoore; mosque; muslims; newyork; paulbots; ronpaul; screwball; sharia; talkradio
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They should use him as the cap stone..Jerk


41 posted on 09/11/2010 1:38:46 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
moore characterizes everyone who is opposed to building the GZM as a "hater." Yet, his first public comment after 9-11-01 was to complain that not enough Republicans had been killed in the attack.

"If someone did this to get back at Bush, then they did so by killing thousands of people who did not vote for him! Boston, New York, DC, and the planes' destination of California--these were places that voted against Bush!"

hater, indeed.

42 posted on 09/11/2010 1:45:42 PM PDT by grandpa jones (Obama must be exhausted, having to tote that giant brain of his around all the time.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why are left wing morons like Moore so anxious to get this mosque built?


43 posted on 09/11/2010 1:49:17 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Class warfare is Obama's thing.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Evil. No other way to describe it.


44 posted on 09/11/2010 1:50:28 PM PDT by Clock King (Ellisworth Toohey was right: My head's gonna explode.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I believe in an America that says you have the right to worship whatever God you have, wherever you want to worship.

Fine. Let's build Christian churches and Jewish temples on all of the properties owned by Michael Moore.

45 posted on 09/11/2010 1:51:53 PM PDT by NautiNurse (ObamaCare uses Bernie Madoff theory of economics)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“But I hate bigotry and I hate liars...”

Eat a pistol then fatboy, because you’re a primo example of each.


46 posted on 09/11/2010 1:54:17 PM PDT by Free in Texas (When they come for your guns, give 'em your bullets first.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Hasn't he died from AIDS-related obesity yet?


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

47 posted on 09/11/2010 1:56:04 PM PDT by The Comedian
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

48 posted on 09/11/2010 2:03:30 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Ve'al kulam eloha s'lichot, s'lach lanu, m'chal lanu, kaper lanu.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

49 posted on 09/11/2010 2:05:25 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Ve'al kulam eloha s'lichot, s'lach lanu, m'chal lanu, kaper lanu.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Go back to your Mansion you 500lb pile of lard


50 posted on 09/11/2010 2:08:45 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: ronnie raygun

51 posted on 09/11/2010 2:08:59 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Ve'al kulam eloha s'lichot, s'lach lanu, m'chal lanu, kaper lanu.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It seems to me that the true “victims of hate and prejudice” are those 3,000 Americans murdered by Muslims on 9/11. This guy is a total buffoon.....I wish he’d just go away....far, far away....


52 posted on 09/11/2010 2:09:32 PM PDT by BamaDi ("The definition of a racist today is anyone who is winning an argument with a liberal.")
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To: Cyber Ninja

53 posted on 09/11/2010 2:11:56 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Ve'al kulam eloha s'lichot, s'lach lanu, m'chal lanu, kaper lanu.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Moore hates America, even to the extent of preferring a totalitarian turd pile like Cuba, so what does he care if not building the monument to the terrorists at ground zero makes America something other than America. He would probably prefer to live in an Islamic state where discussions of rights and freedoms get body parts cut off.


54 posted on 09/11/2010 2:12:23 PM PDT by pallis
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Blaming a whole group for the actions of just one of that group is anti-American. Timothy McVeigh was Catholic. Should Oklahoma City prohibit the building of a Catholic Church near the site of the former federal building that McVeigh blew up?

False premise. Although I'm not Catholic, I have yet to see a Catholic in this country murder someone, simply because that person bad-mouthed Jesus or Mary. I have yet to see Catholics commit acts of terrorism in this country because they don't like how abortion, homosexuality and contraception is pushed in this country, all of which are contrary to their teachings.

Islam, though? Different ballgame. These fanatics "perceive" that America has policies that harm them (support for Israel, I'd imagine) and they attack us. Heck, let's just be for real. They hate us because we aren't bowing east towards Mecca, stoning women for alleged adultery and teaching our children to hate the Jews and blow themselves up.

55 posted on 09/11/2010 2:16:34 PM PDT by Sister_T ("Calling ILLEGAL aliens "immigrants" is like calling shoplifters 'customers'!"-UCFRoadWarrior ><>)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Qur'an 9:107 states:

"And there are those who put up a mosque by way of mischief and infidelity - to disunite the Believers - and in preparation for one who warred against God and His Apostle aforetime. They will indeed swear that their intention is nothing but good; but God doth declare that they are certainly liars." [Abdullah Yusuf Ali translation]

In a footnote, Abdullah Yusuf Ali states:

"... a fourth class of insidious evil-doers is now mentioned, whose type is illustrated in the story of Qubaa 'Mosque of mischief' (dhirar). Qubaa is a suburb of Medina, about three miles to the south-east. When the Holy Prophet arrived at Medina for Hijrat, he rested four days in Qubaa before entering the town of Medina. Here was built the first mosque, the 'Mosque of Piety' (Taqwa), or the mosque of the power of Islam (Quwat-ul-Islam), to which he frequently came during his subsequent stay in Medina. Taking advantage of these sacred associations, some Hypocrits of the Tribe of Bani Ganam built an opposition mosque in Qubaa, pretending to advance Islam. In reality they were in league with a notorious enemy of Islam, one Abu Amir, who had fought against Islam at Uhud and who was now, after the battle of Hunain (A.H. 9), in Syria; his confederates wanted a mosque for him to come to, but it would only be a source of mischief and division, and the scheme was disapproved."

Isn't the Ground Zero Mosque a "Mosque of mischief"?

56 posted on 09/11/2010 2:18:22 PM PDT by John McDonnell
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’d love to see this fat pig be subjected to sharia law. He, daily, is probably responsible for death of more pigs and cows than in the whole chicago stockyard.

You love your meat don’t ya’, you fat tub of sewer waste.

Go back to Canada and, we’ll gladly clean up you slimey trail you leave behind.


57 posted on 09/11/2010 2:33:39 PM PDT by RetSignman (When muslim rabid dogs are at your throat...petting them won't save you.)
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To: popdonnelly
Because the bottom line is people like Michael Moore profit from the grief of others. It's a way to make tons of money without ever having to do any real work. He could care less about Muslims, Islam, or his own country for that matter. They are all just tools to manipulate for profit, and he literally laughs all the way to the bank. Hell, he even laughs whenever he makes a public appearance, and he is laughing directly at the people who give him their money. He sees the American people for the fools that they are and hence an easy mark, and you know what, he's right. He doesn't believe in any of the principles he espouses because he doesn't have any principles. It's all just fodder for his bank account. Trying to figure out Michael Moore beyond a paycheck is simply futility, and will only serve to ensnare you in his web of manipulation.

Don't blame Michael Moore for his own prominence. Put the blame where it rightfuly belongs. In the hands of the American people, because they are the one's who elevate him.

58 posted on 09/11/2010 2:38:22 PM PDT by csense
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To: hoagy62
I ask that question all the time. No heart attack, diabetes, brain aneurysm, none of this happens to the evil in our country. Only the good die.
59 posted on 09/11/2010 2:41:24 PM PDT by angcat (Robinson Cano don't ya know!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; stephenjohnbanker; M. Espinola; Quix; EggsAckley; All
Look at this: That crazy ground zero Imam threatens the U.S. with a new attack -- which a sure violation of federal law:

Ground Zero Mosque Iman: If You Don’t Build It, They Will Attack !

So how come this terrorist is still walking around free as a bird ___ ?

60 posted on 09/11/2010 2:45:05 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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