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TUCSON SHOOTINGS: Gun control and the Wild West (Feline nickname alert)
The Rochester City Newspaper ^ | January 18, 2011 | Andrew Dunning

Posted on 01/18/2011 1:18:39 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The massacre in Arizona should make every forward-thinking person in America angry. And this anger should give thoughtful people the backbone to tell the NRA that the Wild West show that they sponsor is over.

The NRA and its disciples believe that they deserve to own guns at all costs. The costs are very high; people are literally killing us, their fellow Americans, because of their gun obsession.

The massacres that happen on a fairly regular basis in our schools, work places, and now at a public gathering of an elected official are almost all committed by a person who is a legal gun owner or by someone who steals or borrows a gun from a relative who is a legal gun owner. That is the problem with guns: no one knows when a legal gun owner is going to go nuts.

Why does anybody in America need a gun that can shoot and blow away dozens of people in only 30 seconds?

We live in a country where entertainer-public figure Sarah Palin shoots animals for fun to show what a tough woman she is and to prove she is one of the guys. Palin had a map on her web site that had crosshairs on the districts of Representative Gifford and 19 other members of Congress. Palin now says the crosshairs were meant to be taken as crosshairs from a surveying instrument.

The people who promote guns at all costs (right-wing radio and television talk-show hosts) seem to be scared that our government will turn on us. If the government turns on us, it's all over anyhow, for crying out loud. The government has tanks, jets, and flame throwers.

I would like to live in a country that isn't the Wild West anymore - where nobody carried a gun. I would rather be in a crowd where if somebody had a baseball bat or a knife and went nuts they could only get one or two people before they are tackled.

It is time to pass intelligent, sane gun-control laws.


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KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; blissninny; democrats; giffords; liberalfascism; palin; rtkba; talkradio; tucson; wussy
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To: Sherman Logan

How about involuntarily being admitted to an asylum?


21 posted on 01/18/2011 1:54:11 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.stink-eye.net/forum/index.php)
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To: texmexis best

I was going to say the opposite. Someone who knows how to wield a knife and understands anatomy could kill more than five or six in a real hurry. People are more afraid of getting cut by a knife than shot with a gun.


22 posted on 01/18/2011 1:56:50 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: old3030

To expand on my previous remarks, since 9/11 it has become open season on attackers.


23 posted on 01/18/2011 1:59:24 PM PST by texmexis best (`)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
Andy better change his diaper -- I think he's wet himself again.

Just the last boilerplate bleating from the


24 posted on 01/18/2011 2:01:58 PM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: GeronL

No idea. Do such things go into the database?


25 posted on 01/18/2011 2:03:14 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"The NRA and its disciples believe that they deserve to own guns at all costs"

Why, yes, yes we do.

At all costs.

26 posted on 01/18/2011 2:08:22 PM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What a pantload!


27 posted on 01/18/2011 2:14:32 PM PST by Redcloak (What's your zombie plan?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I got some interesting perspective from a former girlfriend some years ago. She was an uber-liberal, and very much against gun ownership (I used to clean my guns while we watched TV together... drove her nuts... but anyway:). Then one time when we talked about it yet ~again~ she finally tapping into what her fear was all about: She didn’t trust herself with a gun. She was afraid of becoming so angry someday that she’d just use the gun in rage. She didn’t understand how anybody could have enough self control not to just kill the next person that made them mad.

That really set me back on my heels. Now, at times I’ve been pretty darn angry at various people over my lifetime... but never even once did it occur to me to grab a gun and kill them. There must be something in the makeup of liberals— since we already know that they let emotions drive their decisions instead of reason. They act on feeling, not thinking. They don’t trust themselves with a gun, therefore they don’t trust anyone.

It’s kinda frightening to get a peek inside somebody’s head like that. And like I said... EX girlfriend.


28 posted on 01/18/2011 2:27:12 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Ramius

Ooops. “...tapped into...”


29 posted on 01/18/2011 2:28:48 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Andy appears to be firmly stuck on stupid. Maybe a sharp smack to the back of the head with a Buick would cure him.


30 posted on 01/18/2011 2:58:48 PM PST by Dead Corpse (III%. The last line in the sand)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
high school graduates... is there anything they don't know???
31 posted on 01/18/2011 3:02:46 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hopolophobic blissninny


32 posted on 01/18/2011 3:10:58 PM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If the government turns on us, it's all over anyhow, for crying out loud. The government has tanks, jets, and flame throwers.
The government does indeed have that equipment.
Shouldn't the things you mentioned be regulated like guns as well? If it's freedom from death at your fellow man that you seek then logic dictates that the only answer is yes.

Why does anybody in America need a gun that can shoot and blow away dozens of people in only 30 seconds?
Why does the government need equipment that can shoot and blow away thousands, or even hundreds of thousands, of it's own Citizens in only 30 seconds?

It's simply amazing that you don't see the dichotomy in your own argument.

P.S. - There are still people running those tanks, jets, and flame throwers. It doesn't seem to worry you that those people might go nuts at any time and they've got more guns and equipment than anybody.

33 posted on 01/18/2011 3:11:21 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We live in a country where entertainer-public figure Sarah Palin shoots animals for fun to show what a tough woman she is and to prove she is one of the guys.

Actually it was to fill her freezer. Making liberals like Andy wee themselves is just an entertaining side benefit.

34 posted on 01/18/2011 3:11:56 PM PST by Hugin ("A man'll usually tell you hids bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear it"--- Open Range)
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To: TigersEye

Most knife wielders fail to protect their bodies from massive trauma due to their belief that a knife is overwhelmingly intimidating and scary.

If you can’t stand, you can’t fight with fists or knives.


35 posted on 01/18/2011 3:13:23 PM PST by texmexis best (`)
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To: texmexis best
If you can’t stand, you can’t fight with fists or knives.

I wouldn't bet my life on that. Where is this "massive trauma" coming from anyway?

36 posted on 01/18/2011 3:15:50 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: philman_36

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


37 posted on 01/18/2011 3:18:04 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Please donate to FreeRepublic, sanity in a world gone mad!)
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To: Joe Brower
BTTT

Why the Gun is Civilization

38 posted on 01/18/2011 3:19:52 PM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: jwparkerjr
I don't know of anyone who feels he should have been able to get hold of a weapon, not even the staunches pro-gun, lifetime NRA member.

As one of the latter, I have to say the requirements for prohibiting someone from buying a gun are quite specific and high, as well they should be when we are talking about effectively depriving someone of their right to self defense. The standard is being a convicted felon, having been involentarily committed to a mental hospital, or judged to be mentally incompetent. Just having been arrested, convicted of a misdemeanor or viewed as "mentally very shaky" (by whom?) is not adequate reason, at least not yet. Thank God.

39 posted on 01/18/2011 3:22:49 PM PST by Hugin ("A man'll usually tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear it"--- Open Range)
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To: TigersEye

Me:

Several martial arts and a former Rugby player.


40 posted on 01/18/2011 3:28:50 PM PST by texmexis best (`)
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