Posted on 03/21/2012 7:21:07 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Fitting out was completed there, the Wanderer was cleared by Customs, and she sailed to Africa where she took aboard some 600 blacks. On Nov. 28, 1858, she reached Jekyll Island, Georgia, where she illegally unloaded the 465 survivors of what is generally called the last shipment of slaves to arrive in the United States.
The Wanderer was built as a pleasure yacht. It was ordered by Colonel John D. Johnson, a New Orleans, Louisiana, sugar baron who was also a member of the prestigious New York Yacht Club.
On a trip back to New Orleans, Johnson sold the ship to William C. Corrie, a prominent Charlestonian. Corrie and Charles A. L. Lamar, a prominent citizen of Savannah resolved to outfit the Wanderer as a slave ship.
So yes, they sent the ship back to New York to be refitted, and the Wanderer sailed from New York flying the NYYC pennant, but as a slave ship, the Wanderer was a Southern venture, not a Northern one.
But I guess you never actually bother to check these things out.
I didn’t write the article. The link included in the post should have been your first clue.
One point is “They controlled between 60 and 90 percent of the U.S. trade in African slaves.”
There are some to whom accuracy and credibility play a distant second to partisanship and blind allegiance to a lost cause. Who made the post should have been your first clue.
One point is “They controlled between 60 and 90 percent of the U.S. trade in African slaves.”
” Who made the post should have been your first clue.”
Evidently you think x shares your affinity for logical fallacies:
“Ad hominem circumstantial constitutes an attack on the bias of a source. This is fallacious because a disposition to make a certain argument does not make the argument false; this overlaps with the genetic fallacy (an argument that a claim is incorrect due to its source)”
I posted the article in response to this claim:
“Most slave traders weren’t “Yankees” but British, Dutch, Spanish, Portuguese, or French, and most of the slaves who came to the 13 colonies or the United States came on their ships.”
The article maintains that the Rhode Island/ New England traders controlled 60-90% of the American slave trade.
Wrong pelly. Your assertion of ad hom fails to meet the minimum requirements. Try again.
The definition:
"Ad hominem circumstantial points out that someone is in circumstances such that he is disposed to take a particular position. Ad hominem circumstantial constitutes an attack on the bias of a source. This is fallacious because a disposition to make a certain argument does not make the argument false; this overlaps with the genetic fallacy (an argument that a claim is incorrect due to its source)"
Your post:
"” Who made the post should have been your first clue.”"
An ad hominem has as its subject a person, rather than his argument. Since you insist that your post doesn't meet the definition of ad hominem then you should be able to identify the subject of your sentence. What is it, exactly?
Why do you assume that I am referring to you specifically? Sounds like you are the victim of “the hit dog howls”....again.
“Why do you assume that I am referring to you specifically?”
Well for one thing you acknowledged it in your reply to my post. If you weren’t referring to me you would have stated that instead of arguing that your ad hominem wasn’t really an ad hominem.
But it’s actually simpler than that. Your statement to x
“Who made the post should have been your first clue.”
refers back to my post 178. It’s the only post x was responding to.
In the future you might want to check your writing for logic traps before disavowing it. It works better than trying to come up with an excuse on the fly. Or you could simply man up and own your words, I’m not sure why you feel a need separate yourself from them.
It’s no more or less a “logic trap” or passive-aggressive game of insinuation that what you’ve been playing. You assume a great deal. You remember what they say about people who assume?
Bump for later reading.
Civil War was about enslaving all people of the united states by means of the 14th Amendment. They so far have achived their communist manifesto move on America. I would suggest reading the book entitled “The Red Amendment” and let the deprogramming begin.
Welcome to FreeRepublic.
Do you consider yourself a communist or have you renounced your citizenship?
It also gave the 40 regiments of southern men who fought for the Union an excuse to kill the southern supporters of slavery, a feeling I find admirable.
I figure the people who should pay the reparations are those who sold them into slavery, the Africans who stayed in Africa.
Good luck with that.
I myself think that since Tiffany with the generous bust can handle people looking at her, Tuffy the Airborne Ranger will prove at least Tiffany’s match in ability to stand up to the laser beams that shoot from an homosexual’s eyes.
The lost cause losers may have a bit more trouble. I don’t rate them as highly as Tiffany.
That load of crap doesn't apply here pal.
Keep howling.
“That load of crap doesn’t apply here pal.”
Lol! Thanks, genius; only you and your buddies would think it’s unfair to expose a logical fallacy.
You just can’t make this stuff up. Sometimes the jokes just write themselves. Incredible.
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