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Is there a Ron Paul putsch under way?
World Net Daily ^ | 06/05/12 | Pam Gellar

Posted on 06/06/2012 8:21:57 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden

Is a Paulian putsch being planned for the Republican National Convention?

Newt Gingrich has warned that Republican leaders have not thought through “how they’re going to handle the convention in Tampa, and how they’re going to handle the Ron Paul forces.” The New York Sun reported that “what Mr. Gingrich seems to be worried about is the delegates that Congressman Paul is winning through his strategy of dealing with state conventions. The former speaker had just come from the convention at Georgia, where … the ‘Ron Paul people’ were out in force.”

I have been receiving alarming emails concerning an underhanded, anti-American Ron Paul coup that is being plotted for the GOP convention.

From Virginia: “I’m running for delegate to the RNC convention in Tampa. There is a serious Paulbot infestation in the GOP here in Virginia. I’m spending a lot of time at GOP apparatchik meetings. I’ve gotten the endorsement of the Conservative Coalition (I was the top vote-getter), and usually that is enough but not this cycle.”

And this came in from a reader of my website AtlasShrugs.com out West: “There is a very interesting situation going on behind the scenes in the Republican Party state caucuses, and the MSM is not reporting it. Ron Paul’s followers have taken control of the Republican state committees in Nevada, Alaska, Iowa, Maine and Louisiana and working for more control in upcoming meetings. They have stolen delegates to the upcoming Republican National Convention away from Mitt Romney by following some technical rules.”

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To: jpsb

“oo funny isn’t it. Lol, GOPe really really does not like Ron Paul, but conservatives do. Particularly Constitutional/Fiscal conservatives.”

Only a percentage of conservatives do, and most of them are libertarians who really aren’t “conservatives”.

Paul is also loved by the OWS gang, the American Nazi party, the KKK, David Duke, Code Pink and a bunch of other groups that are as far from being “conservatives” as Obama and Soros are.

I don’t like Romney, but he’s a heck of a lot better than Obama or Paul.


61 posted on 06/06/2012 12:11:46 PM PDT by History Repeats
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To: svcw

“My experience is that most Paul supporters have projected onto him what they want him to be, not who he actually is.”

Just like they did to Obama in 2007.


62 posted on 06/06/2012 12:11:53 PM PDT by History Repeats
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To: svcw

I think the GOP is likely to split soon, Tea Party and Paul faction going one way and the GOPe going the other. The sooner the better.


63 posted on 06/06/2012 12:12:10 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: Sirius Lee
You Go Tell it Brother,

Go tell on the mountain

Over the hills and everywhere

Go tell it on the mountain Jesus Christ was born!

Those He set's free shall be free indeed

As a divine instrument of His strong hand, we thirst and hunger for righteousness in a land of plenty.

2Corinthians 7:14 If my people called by my name shall humble themselves and pray, repent of their sins and seek my face . I shall hear and turn and heal their land.

-a king forever in the Kingdom of God!

We have no more vital interests than those of the American people! Their is no such thing as extremism in the defense of liberty

We dont need foreign entanglements, we have enough gas & Oil to be energy self sufficient. Neither Zero, or Mittens have the balls to oppose the Progressive energy policies, radical environmental groups and entrenched legions of Government employees who are blessed and bribed by the Washington DC old guard. Neither man will put a stop to the theft of our inalienable rights. We have to pick the right candidate at our convention.

64 posted on 06/06/2012 12:12:48 PM PDT by STD ([You must help] people in the communityÂ…feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless)
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To: jpsb

Ok, here is the deal.
Paul votes against spending bills he knows will pass, after he loads them up the earmarks.
This maneuver allows him to claim he has voted against spending - it’s clever but not honest.
He always votes to cut foreign except when it comes to the palestinians - very anti-Semitic/Israel.
(Lets not get into he has never met a dictator he didn’t make excuses for)
His message has been the same for thirty years - ok, yet he never does anything but add on earmarks, to the bills he votes against the bill.


65 posted on 06/06/2012 12:17:55 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: jpsb

Tea Party people are strong on defense, Paul is a surrender monkey.


66 posted on 06/06/2012 12:19:55 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: History Repeats

I myself am a Constitutional Fiscal conservative that has a strong libertarian streak in me. Social issues are important, but only abortion and stopping the homosexual agenda would make my 10 issues. Tops on my list is restoring the Constitution Republic and on that issue only Paul seems to “get it”. My second issues is reducing government spending and lowing taxes, all taxes, federal, state, city and county.


67 posted on 06/06/2012 12:20:38 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: Graewoulf
"Ron Paul is of value to us in that those of us that want to crush Obama in a landslide, need an OPEN or Brokered Convention in Tampa, where there is the possibility of choosing a Nominee who could actually beat Obama."

While I agree with Ron Paul's fiscal and domestic economic policies, his ideas on the gold standard and foreign policy completely disqualify him as a viable candidate.

As for a brokered convention, you are living in a fantasy world. The closest we have come in the last 50 - 60 years to a brokered convention was Ronald Reagan/Gerald Ford in 1976. Reagan was a legit candidate not a fringe one and he couldn't pull it off. Even if there was some type of brokered convention as you envision, it would have to come down to the people who have delegates. There is not going to be a mystery man/woman come in on a white horse and take the nomination. It's not going to happen. You are deluding yourself if you think it will happen.

Face it, Romney is our candidate and all Paul and his Paulbots can do is make the convention out to look bad for Republicans and thereby strengthen Obama.
68 posted on 06/06/2012 12:21:44 PM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: jpsb
I also know that Ron Paul as been consistently on message for at least 30 years

Which message, the one that he spouts that 9/11 was America's fault? Or the message that he endorsed Cynthia McKinney for president in 2008? Or the message that says he wants to experiment with perverts in the military? Or the one that says all America needs is one submarine to protect out entire eastern shoreline? Or the message that he endorses OWS?

Cut and Run has been consistently on message. It is just that it is a message that the terrorists like, but not one that is good for America.
69 posted on 06/06/2012 12:21:56 PM PDT by John D
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To: svcw

Paul believes in a strong national defense, but just as Ike warned, we must beware the military-industrial complex. It seems to me the military-industrial complex is running our foreign policy to their own benefit. Perhaps never ending nation building wars are not really in our best interests?


70 posted on 06/06/2012 12:29:49 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: All

Beer time, enjoyed the discussion, later.


71 posted on 06/06/2012 12:32:54 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

” - - - Face it, Romney is our candidate - - - “ who might win or lose to Obama in November by 0.1 %. Terrible odds from Romney himself last week.

Let us learn from the mistakes of Lame-Brain McCain, and bump up the odds so that the BEST Republican Nominee can beat Obama 60 to 40 % in November.

THE PLAN: Abstain on the first Tampa Convention Ballot and then OPEN the Convention to choosing the best Dark Horse team in the Republican Party.

As far as what is “going to happen” is in OUR hands, not some damn RINO High Poo-Bah!

The revolt against the RINO Wing of the Republican Party has begun!

‘Lead, follow, or get out of the way!’


72 posted on 06/06/2012 12:38:43 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Dictator Baby-Doc Barack's obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND U.S. Constitution.))
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To: mountainlion

“Soros and Jimmy Carter supported Romney. I bet the new world order group are pulling strings.”

Soros also has been putting money in Ron Paul’s pocket. Glenn Beck exposed this a few months back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFSHGhq19CM&feature=share


73 posted on 06/06/2012 12:41:05 PM PDT by History Repeats
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To: All

If you’re a Paul supporter, here is a list that I grabbed off of FR that lays out Ron Paul. I know I’ll get flamed for this by some. But they sure can’t dispute it.

Ron Paul supports legal dope and prostitution
http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2011/05/06/Ron_Paul_on_Prostitution_Gay_Marriage/

Starts half way in the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Mz9pDGHBTo&feature=related

Nevada prostitutes endorse Ron Paul
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/01/06/nevada-prostitutes-endorse-ron-paul/

White supremecist David Duke endorses Ron Paul;
http://patdollard.com/2011/12/former-kkk-grand-wizard-david-duke-says-he%E2%80%99s-voting-for-ron-paul/

Ron Paul refuses to disavow STORMFRONT associations
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/45537/ron-paul-refuses-to-disavow-stormfront-other-anti-semitic-racist-groups-openly-campaigning-for-him/

Ron Paul SUPPORTS NAMBLA
http://videosift.com/video/Does-Ron-Paul-Support-NAMBLA-Well-yes-and-no
http://www.dailypaul.com/70100/age-of-consent?page=1

Why do the Ron Paul guys support gay marriage?
http://www.queerty.com/ron-paul-on-gay-marriage-20071210/

the 2008 RONULAN economic advisor to Ron paul saying that libertarians need to infiltrate the GOP
Libertarians need to infiltrate the GOP
VIDEO of Schiff saying just that!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ncLTFoTFa8

An organization called Student Scholars for 9/11 Truth video taped an inpromtu appearance with Ron Paul and recorded some of his comments. They can be found here:
http://michellemalkin.com/2007/05/19/trutheriness-and-ron-paul/

While Ron Paul has said on TV shows such as Glen Beck that he dismisses the major theories, he openly says there is a coverup of what went on yet refuses to elaborate on just what is covered up. The 9/11 Comission clearly showed that intelligence failures happened because of Clinton era laws that prevented our inteligence agancies from communicating with each other.
On the website CONSPIRACY PLANET, information about Ron Paul and issues similar to this can be found:
http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?ChannelID=90

Ron Paul has publically said that the CIA has accomplished a coup against America and needs to be taken out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dECSYm5bSM

A direct quote from this conference is as such:
(January 20, 2010) House Rep. Ron Paul says the CIA has in effect carried out a “coup” against the US government, and the intelligence agency needs to be “taken out.”
Speaking to an audience of like-minded libertarians at a Campaign for Liberty regional conference in Atlanta this past weekend, the Texas Republican said: “There’s been a coup, have you heard? It’s the CIA coup. The CIA runs everything, they run the military. They’re the ones who are over there lobbing missiles and bombs on countries...”
Additional video proof of him saying this here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SZKLvEOp9c

And here is one prominant website that supports the 9/11 conspiracy theories, calling for a RON PAUL PROVISIONAL ARMY to take over after we investigate the 9/11 events:
http://how911wasdone.blogspot.com/

Among the other kooky connections to Ron Paul, is a UFO COnnection. I have yet to find the original article, but numerous articles repeat the belief of Ron Paul’s that UFO’s are real. Some of the Ron Paul sites have soeone trying to mock this belief, but the Ron Paul site, DailyPaul.com says this:
http://dailypaul.com/node/125999

This has been repeated again in San Francisco, not known to support conservatives or Libertarians anyways, but associated with Ron Paul out there were UFO enthusiasts mentioned in this article:
http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2007/08/ron_pauls_ufo_sighter_friends.php

How is it that the kookiest ideas are surrounding Ron Paul?
Ron Paul, UFO disclosure, etc... simply nothing more than a pacifier — a distraction!
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message462483/pg1

Ron Paul supported by anti-war group CODE PINK
http://www.dailypaul.com/165272/anti-war-group-code-pink-counts-ron-paul-in-their-camp-on-israel-aid-opposition
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/05/18/rep-paul-codepink-camp-israel-aid-opposition/

Ron Paul and his acolytes are following George Soros on the defense of our nation, and connections between the two have been proved
http://frontpagemag.com/2012/01/02/ron-pauls-soros-defense-plan/

Tehran TV LOVES Ron Paul!
http://www.aim.org/special-report/tehran-tv-loves-ron-paul/

Ron Paul supported by anti-war group CODE PINK
http://www.dailypaul.com/165272/anti-war-group-code-pink-counts-ron-paul-in-their-camp-on-israel-aid-opposition

Glenn Beck exposes Ron Paul’s ties to Soros. Does it shock you, or does it do much to explain why Ron Paul is friendly with “Bawney” Frank and almost as bad as Obama is when it comes to illegal aliens and Islam? Listen to video please.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFSHGhq19CM


74 posted on 06/06/2012 12:41:15 PM PDT by History Repeats
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Q. Is there a Ron Paul putsch under way?
A. No.


Q. Is there a lot of fear that Paul’s foreign policy to protect America only will gain wider acceptance?
A. Yes.


75 posted on 06/06/2012 12:45:44 PM PDT by ex-snook ("above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: jpsb; History Repeats

Ok?
I do not know what Ron Paul you are talking about, he certainly the one I know of.
see post #74
(ping since I referred to your post)


76 posted on 06/06/2012 12:46:13 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: History Repeats

Glenn Beck exposed this a few months back.
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Get back to me when RomneyBot Glenn Beck exposes Willards liberal record...


77 posted on 06/06/2012 12:48:40 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: ex-snook
. Is there a lot of fear that Paul’s foreign policy to protect America only will gain wider acceptance?

Cut and Run's policies already have wide acceptance with America's enemies. The surrender monkey and America's enemies would love to see America as weak as possible.
78 posted on 06/06/2012 1:02:09 PM PDT by John D
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To: ex-snook

That would depend on what you mean by “protect America” Paul means cut and run, capitulate to our enemies, makes excuses for thugs, neuter the military - I just don’t think it will go over very well.


79 posted on 06/06/2012 1:19:05 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: jpsb

“I think the GOP is likely to split soon, Tea Party and Paul faction going one way and the GOPe going the other. The sooner the better”

If Paul supporters split from any party it sure won’t be the GOP. He’s got more OWS and liberals supporting him than any GOP voters do. If he takes votes from any party it would be the Democrats. They are all in love with his anti-military, pro-drug legalization, pro-prostitution and his blame America first ideas than any “conservatives” are.

Pay attention to Paul, he says one thing and does another. He adds things to bills to spend more money but then when it’s known that the bill will pass he votes against it to look like he is against such spending. Paul is as crooked as a dogs hind leg.


80 posted on 06/06/2012 1:24:51 PM PDT by History Repeats
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