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Normalizing Pedophilia
Liberty News ^ | January 10, 2013 | Duane Lester

Posted on 03/25/2013 8:59:15 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The effort to normalize child sex continues:

"there is a growing conviction, notably in Canada, that paedophilia should probably be classified as a distinct sexual orientation, like heterosexuality or homosexuality. Two eminent researchers testified to that effect to a Canadian parliamentary commission last year, and the Harvard Mental Health Letter of July 2010 stated baldly that paedophilia “is a sexual orientation” and therefore “unlikely to change”.

Child protection agencies and many who work with sex offenders dislike this. “Broadly speaking, in the world of people who work with sex offenders here, [paedophilia] is learned behaviour,” says Donald Findlater, director of research and development at the Lucy Faithfull Foundation, a charity dedicated to preventing child sexual abuse, and, before it closed, manager of leading treatment centre the Wolvercote Clinic. “There may be some vulnerabilities that could be genetic, but normally there are some significant events in a person’s life, a sexually abusive event, a bullying environment … I believe it is learned, and can be unlearned.”

Chris Wilson of Circles UK, which helps released offenders, also rejects the idea that paedophilia is a sexual orientation: “The roots of that desire for sex with a child lie in dysfunctional psychological issues to do with power, control, anger, emotional loneliness, isolation.”

If the complexity and divergence of professional opinion may have helped create today’s panic around paedophilia, a media obsession with the subject has done more: a sustained hue and cry exemplified by the News of the World’s notorious “name and shame” campaign in 2000, which brought mobs on to the streets to demonstrate against the presence of shadowy monsters in their midst.....

(Excerpt) Read more at libertynews.com ...


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: beastiality; childabuse; demagogicparty; homosexualagenda; incest; lavendermafia; nambla; obamalegacy; pedophilia; psychology; sexualdeviates; sexualorientation; sodomy
How could so much change since I was born in 1960?
1 posted on 03/25/2013 8:59:15 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That and incest. “Who cares if they’re two consenting adults?”

The sad thing is that I know many Pro-homosexual people who adamantly believe that these things aren’t happening right now and are totally unrelated.


2 posted on 03/25/2013 9:03:39 PM PDT by Shadow44
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This makes me physically ill.
I have never hated anyone before but these pedophilia advocates make me want to kill.
Anyone who touches my kids or grandchildren will have the wrath of a mother upon them - and it wont be pleasant!!!!


3 posted on 03/25/2013 9:04:39 PM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It was an inside job. Alas, Brave New Babylon.


4 posted on 03/25/2013 9:05:21 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The roots of that desire for sex with a child lie in dysfunctional psychological issues to do with power, control, anger, emotional loneliness, isolation.”

Give me a break. By those standards ANYBODY including Charles Manson should be freed and Jeffrey Dahmer should be considered a "victim".

How could so much change since I was born in 1960?

Our public school system. Unfortunately it will get worse.

5 posted on 03/25/2013 9:07:57 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is another little dark niche in libertarianism and NAMBLA and consent laws.

Ruwart wrote. “When we outlaw child pornography, the prices paid for child performers rise, increasing the incentives for parents to use children against their will.”

“”Ruwart’s is a classic libertarian take — a defense of free will (even for “child performers”) and an attack on government prohibitions of any kind. It’s also political poison. As libertarian blogger Steve Newton put it, Ruwart and her allies run the risk of turning the party into “the poster child for NAMBLA and the aluminum hat brigade.”

The party’s executive director, Shane Cory, saw the danger as well, and rushed out a press release titled, “Libertarians call for increased communication to combat child pornography.” Cory was attacked by hardliners who saw the release as an endorsement of increased federal prosecuting power. The party refused to vote on a resolution asking states to strongly enforce existing child porn laws. Cory resigned in protest, depriving a party in the midst of what may be its most promising election season of one of its most able organizers and fund raisers. But for many libertarian faithful, adherence to the most rigid of principles always trumps practical considerations about how those principles might be more broadly observed.””


6 posted on 03/25/2013 9:08:42 PM PDT by ansel12 (" I would not be in the United States Senate if it wasnt for Sarah Palin " Cruz said.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“The next big thing” once the toads in the “media” and the knuckleheads on Capitol Hill get over their “gay marriage” gig.


7 posted on 03/25/2013 9:09:05 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Whatever happened to the land of the free, home of the brave?)
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Liberal 2000...”no, you are a stupid neanderthal, homosexuality has nothing to do with pedophilia, or incest, it is about love and there will be no slippery slope”


8 posted on 03/25/2013 9:17:58 PM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And, how long before the “not that there’s anything wrong with that...” meme is applied to pedophilia?


9 posted on 03/25/2013 9:25:40 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is the logical extension of the gay gene lie. If there is no natural law and all manner of sexual preference is passed through the genes, all sexual behavior is genetic and involuntary. Genes do not mutate with the passage of age of consent, polygamy or even bestiality laws. The normalization of sodomy is the last stop before the normalization of everything. It is the gateway to a world too hellish to imagine.


10 posted on 03/25/2013 9:28:49 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: ansel12

Do Libertarians then have a moral relativism streak? To me this is why all these behaviors are now deemed normal. I guess we are going to have to go clear to the bottom as a society to figure these things out. So sad and hopeless is our future if this is to be our lot.


11 posted on 03/25/2013 9:29:13 PM PDT by taterjay
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

‘It is the gateway to a world too hellish to imagine.’

This says so much more than my sad and hopeless statement.


12 posted on 03/25/2013 9:31:23 PM PDT by taterjay
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

13 posted on 03/25/2013 9:31:47 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I just received a link today regarding the new DSM-5 which gives the various diagnosis etc. Nonetheless, there is a movement underway by some professionals, to have this newest edition go through a re-write. It seems the focus is on the addition of numerous ‘new’ aliments that haven’t been properly researched.

So far from what I read, they haven’t included this crap, but I’m sure it’s close.


14 posted on 03/25/2013 9:34:00 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 (Fluck this adminstration of misfits.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It isn't really all that difficult. The question comes down to "does society have the ability to protect its members who are children from being the victims of sexual predation on the part of its other members who are adults?" If the answer is "no", then society fails in its basic function to protect the weak from the strong and loses its purpose altogether.

It is interesting and profoundly disturbing to live in a time when pure evil feels so little compelled to disguise itself. These are monsters, and the people apologizing for them are monsters.

15 posted on 03/25/2013 9:55:23 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
How could so much change since I was born in 1960?

At least the Flag and the Pledge haven't changed since you were born, kid.

16 posted on 03/25/2013 10:19:35 PM PDT by null and void (If the government is so worried about civil disturbance, why are they working so hard to disturb us?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That is what television has been doing for years now - thank goodness I stopped watching most television programming.


17 posted on 03/25/2013 10:25:48 PM PDT by Republican1795.
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To: null and void

Ike was still president.


18 posted on 03/25/2013 10:46:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I work for the governemnt agency in Canada. I work with adults who seem to not learn and keep getting themselves in petty trouble. One person who is a gay male admitted to me that he had sex with a young boy. I took the info to my bosses and told them I will be taking this to the police.

After all said and done he was arrested. He admitted to police what he did. Trial was set and he told me he was going to plead guilty cause he wanted to get it over with. First trial date he stands in front of judge prosecutor tells the judge they are with drawing all charges. He is free to go.

The boy didn't want to admit to the sex because people would think he was gay.

I asked the client why he had sex with him, he told me “I like having sex with them because unlike others my age they are so easy to talk into having sex”.

But another case that is similar but involves a male adult and a female minor where the female is saying the same thing that it never happened is going through the courts and looks like the guy will be found guilty.

You can see the double standard that is given to make sure gays get their harem of kids for their sexual pleasure. As a father it was hard not to choke the b@stard to death.

19 posted on 03/25/2013 11:07:31 PM PDT by Thor1966
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Does this mean that the nacropilic-paedophile (all those missing and dead children) will be able to openly practice their peculiar sexual orientation in Canada?
20 posted on 03/26/2013 12:00:31 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If we look to my own Norway, we find two things in *all* of the parties, from the “right” too the far left:

1. All parties have leftists and homosexuals at the top, particularly in the Party press.

2. All parties are working to get pedophilia, incest, bestiality and like deviations legalized.

Child porn, for example, is unfair to crack down on out of consideration of people who just “like small girls with small breasts”.

Norway, as a small sample of far-leftism is no different from the liberal mainstream in the US. In fact, you can see it as a perfect clone of the Obama administration, and the Obama administration does so too.


21 posted on 03/26/2013 1:15:23 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"there is a growing conviction, notably in Canada, that paedophilia should probably be classified as a distinct sexual orientation, like heterosexuality or homosexuality. Two eminent researchers testified to that effect to a Canadian parliamentary commission last year, and the Harvard Mental Health Letter of July 2010 stated baldly that paedophilia “is a sexual orientation” and therefore “unlikely to change”.

In all probability true. Of course, the similarity between the two conditions was used only a few years ago to discredit homosexuality. Today it's used to validate pedophilia.

22 posted on 03/26/2013 2:55:24 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: ansel12
Ruwart wrote. “When we outlaw child pornography, the prices paid for child performers rise, increasing the incentives for parents to use children against their will.”

Also a statement of fact. The similarity between this argument and the libertarian arguments for the decriminalization of drugs and many other traditionally illegal practices should make libertarians reconsider the limitations of libertarianism as a philosophy.

But it won't.

23 posted on 03/26/2013 2:57:55 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yep and when I was born the US flag and Pledge of Allegiance were different than now by two stars and two words...


24 posted on 03/26/2013 3:35:13 AM PDT by null and void (If the government is so worried about civil disturbance, why are they working so hard to disturb us?)
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To: taterjay
I'm a libertarian as some here well know and I don't have any problem with enforcing tough laws against child abuse.

Just two things:

(1) No witness coaching by the prosecution. Know how many innocent dads have been accused of abuse by a vindictive ex?

(2) Want to give convicted child abusers the chair or lock them up for life? Fine with me as long as there is a law that applies that penalty. None of this "he's done the full sentence but now we are going to cook up some psychiatric reasons to keep him locked up" stuff.

25 posted on 03/26/2013 4:06:06 AM PDT by Notary Sojac ('Institutions will try to preserve the problems to which they are a solution.' - Clay Shirky)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Always feared this would be the inevitable next step.


26 posted on 03/26/2013 4:43:49 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The normalization of pedophilia will be compelete with the legalization of gay marriage, code for legal gay adoption, code for legal child rape.

Gay marriage has no other real purpose.


27 posted on 03/26/2013 4:48:34 AM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In the not too distant future, I’m sure the American Psychiatric Association will normalize every form of perversion. They will, however, identify conservatism a mental illness requiring forced hospitalization; for the good of society, of course.


28 posted on 03/26/2013 4:59:50 AM PDT by Flick Lives (We're going to be just like the old Soviet Union, but with free cell phones!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Everything’s changing at an ever faster rate. As for this insult, I completely expected it.


29 posted on 03/26/2013 5:45:10 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: ScottinVA

Been watching this for a long time.

Abortion goes to infanticide, euthanasia and “right to die” then to “duty to die” and death panels.

Homosexuality leads to polygamy, pedophilia, and bestiality.

The progression, if not stopped when it begins, is inevitable.

“What am I doing in this hand-basket, and why it it getting s0 hot?”


30 posted on 03/26/2013 5:56:09 AM PDT by Little Ray (No "Comprehensive" Immigration Reform. Fortifiy the Borders First.)
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