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Is Bundy's Protest Tarnishing the Tea Party? (Weekly Standard jumping the shark?)
The Weekly Standard ^ | April 22, 2013 | Michael Warren

Posted on 04/22/2014 6:56:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Senior writer John McCormack joined Greta van Susteren's political panel Monday on Fox News to discuss the protest at the Bundy ranch in Nevada. Watch the video below:

(VIDEO-AT-LINK)

Meanwhile, in this week's issue, the Scrapbook writes about the problems with Cliven Bundy's cause:

Twenty years ago, the federal government, which owns the land on which Bundy grazes his 900 cattle, decided to impose a grazing fee. Bundy opposes that fee, has consistently refused to pay it, and the federal Bureau of Land Management now claims that he owes $1 million in unpaid fees. Bundy has challenged the grazing fee in federal court—indeed, has challenged the federal government’s title to land in Nevada—and has consistently lost. Sixteen years ago, a federal judge issued a permanent injunction against Bundy, ordering the removal of his cattle. Bundy appealed that ruling to the Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, and lost again. Last August, a federal court gave Bundy 45 days to remove his cattle, and in October, a federal district judge ordered Bundy not to “physically interfere with any seizure or impoundment operation.”

This does not sound to The Scrapbook like the dread hand of tyranny, in Nevada or Washington, oppressing an innocent farmer, or pushing some law-abiding citizen around. It sounds, instead, like a rancher gaming the system to his own financial advantage, and disguising his scheme in populist rhetoric: refusing to pay a tax which others must pay, and “tying up the courts”—for two decades!—as he continues to ignore the law. Far from acting in an arbitrary or capricious manner, the federal government has shown patience and forbearance in the face of lawlessness that customarily lands people in jail. It is worth noting that Bundy’s rancher-neighbors and the Nevada Cattlemen’s Association, who contend with the same federal policies, offer him little support.

Bundy has exercised his First Amendment right to plead his case publicly and inflame his admirers. And inflamed they have been: A few hundred people from around the country converged on Nye County, Nevada—many armed and brandishing weapons—to disrupt the government’s attempt to enforce the law, taunting and attacking agents dutifully carrying out the orders of a federal court. Last week, fearful of violence, the BLM suspended its roundup and withdrew from the area.

This is no victory for anyone other than Bundy and, The Scrapbook hopes, a temporary one at that. There is a term to describe the people who surround him, and it isn’t “militia.” The word is “mob.” And what this mob has practiced is not civil disobedience but armed provocation of a democratic government which has afforded Cliven Bundy every right and privilege as a citizen. One of Bundy’s supporters boasted to the press that “we were actually strategizing to put all the women up at the front.” This is the same spirit that animates people who attack firemen during riots, or opposed school integration with violence in Little Rock, Arkansas. In that case, 57 years ago, President Eisenhower was obliged to send the 101st Airborne because, as he said, “mob rule cannot be allowed to override the decisions of our courts.”

What was true then remains true today. Cliven Bundy is no hero of any kind. No conservative would pick and choose the laws he intends to obey, defy the rest, and challenge the rule of democracy with guns. No hero would adopt the terrorist’s tactic of placing innocents in harm’s way. Any fool can pick up a weapon and aim at an officer of the law; the moral power of civil disobedience lies in the willingness to defer to the law and accept punishment on principle.


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KEYWORDS: blm; bundy; cinos; rinos; teaparty
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To: RIghtwardHo

if it weren’t for the media, the majority of Americans would be much more sympathetic to the TP


21 posted on 04/22/2014 7:14:10 PM PDT by dontreadthis
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To: cloudmountain
You are helping the government take more of your individual rights away . you sound like a socialist/democrat the evil government and Obama chased away all of the ranchers and now one is standing up for his rights. so the evil gov and evil Obama sends an army against and old man just trying to make a living . and you support the government. how can you be on a conservative site?

The federal government owning this much land is socialism/communism and tyranny. The Constitution didn't intend for the federal government to own 86% of the land of Nevada etc. .it must give the land to private owners NOW:


22 posted on 04/22/2014 7:15:04 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

and as much as they try, the Tea Party ain’t going away.


23 posted on 04/22/2014 7:15:29 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda—Divide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“fearful of violence”

What bull. BLM showed up and pushed people to the ground, sicced dogs on people, and electrocuted others with tazers.

They were violent, attempted to incite violence, and threatened violence.


24 posted on 04/22/2014 7:15:46 PM PDT by Ray76 (Take over the GOP? You still beg! Forget them. Second Party Now.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Is it true that the ranch is not really "ancestral" family land, but was really bought by his father in 1946, and they didn't start raising cattle until 1954?

An abbreviated look at rancher Cliven Bundy's family history

25 posted on 04/22/2014 7:18:09 PM PDT by sharkhawk (Mr Gorbachev, tear down this wall.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Michael Warren is a staff writer at The Weekly Standard. He is 2012 Robert Novak journalism fellow, and he has written for the Washington Times, National Review Online, City Journal, and the Washington Examiner. He has also appeared on CNN and C-SPAN.”

Thinnest bio ever....well except maybe Obama’s.

IF this guy ever actually met a tea party individual he would no doubt wet his pants


26 posted on 04/22/2014 7:19:24 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

Is the Cattle Massacre at Nevada Cattle Rancher Bundy’s Pioneer Corral damaging the Democrat Party?

To put this latest Medieval “Kill for Sport” event in historical context, all one has to do is remember that the Democrat Party was the Founding Party of the KKK.

Is the modern day equivalent of the KKK the Bureau of Feudal Land Management, (BFLM) ?

If so, then Feudal Lord Reid would then be “The Grand Dragon of the BFLM.”

Feudal Lord Reid’s Rustlers are hired guns, who are furious but not fast, which also applies to their bitter, vengeful, senile, multimillionaire Leader: Feudal Lord Reid.

With the past Democrat-based KKK, and now the present Democrat-controlled BFLM, ethics be damned, as abject fear is the main goal of both of these Medieval Outlaw Gangs, past and present.

“Ethics” will be justified later by Liberals who will write the ‘revised” PC History of these times, past and present; of powerful men with outlaw hatred toward free people in America, Black or White, poor or rich.

The Jackboot Heel of Democat Tyranny is now upon us, AGAIN !

FORWARD!


28 posted on 04/22/2014 7:20:15 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Nifster

I knew Robert Novak, Bob was a friend of mine and Michael, you’re no Bob Novak!


29 posted on 04/22/2014 7:21:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Billthedrill
...every citizen in it is not only capable, but obligated, to choose to disobey laws that are unconstitutional. It isn't a privilege, it's a duty. The author of this Scrapbook is unworthy to be an American.

You are exactly right.

In point of fact, this is the duty of every juror, one of the reasons for a jury, and every citizen when not on a jury.

It is also a duty to be informed of these facts.

30 posted on 04/22/2014 7:21:40 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: cloudmountain

Glenn Beck, is that you? The American Revolution started for less. The people have been way too ‘long suffering’. Do I wish for that, again? Absolutely not. But I can feel, hear, and taste the anger in this country and it’s palpable. Can cut it with a knife. Look at what happened in China a day ago. Eventually, people have had enough.


33 posted on 04/22/2014 7:22:15 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: cloudmountain
The feds are using the endangered species act to prevent the public from using PUBLIC land.He didn't stop paying grazing fees, which are to be used by the blm to manage the grazing lands, until the blm forced the ranchers to cut the size of their herds to unprofitable levels and then use the fees to buy out their grazing RIGHTS and putting them out of business.

51 other ranchers in Clark county are gone. Bundy is the last man standing.

34 posted on 04/22/2014 7:22:27 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where?)
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To: McGavin999

It isn’t just Mr. Warren. It seem there are a lot of uninformed Freepers right here on this thread.

At least I hope they are simply uninformed. The alternative would be hard to swallow.


35 posted on 04/22/2014 7:23:20 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Want to keep your doctor? Remove your Democrat Senator.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Too bad the author didn’t study up on his facts before writing this trash.


36 posted on 04/22/2014 7:24:19 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where?)
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To: Therapsid
Bundy is kind of stinky in my mind....20 yrs profit off federal land...
But then theres Reed and his sons Selling fed land for a fraction of its value....to the chinese ...
Two issues just reached the public...finally .....Reed is very dirty...
And some of our political hacks are selling our land to the chins.....Dugh
Gun control,Alaskan Oil,Destabilize Mexico,and Special Economic Zones....Thats what they Pay for....Thats where the bribe money IS.....Soon the gen public will see...imo..

Hmmm, we live in the best place in the world and it's still not good enough for some. We are healthy, safe, educated, over-fed, under-exercised (speaking there for myself), have multiple cars, T.V.s and space enough to roll around heaven all day. STILL not enough.

Bundy just doesn't know how or care to play by anyone's rules but his. I hope he is thinking about the effect this has on his family, near and extended, relatives and friends.
Nothing for them to be proud of here.

Lol. DON'T get me started on the Chinese. :o(
I agree with your assessments.

38 posted on 04/22/2014 7:26:40 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

More like polishing it shine on that city on the hill.


39 posted on 04/22/2014 7:27:55 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Not exactly. During the Clinton impeachment, their front page issue read: Their finest hour.” I like Fred Barnes, a christian and he writes well. The others, take them with a full measure of salt.


40 posted on 04/22/2014 7:28:10 PM PDT by Fungi
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