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The nation's largest public library system is ending late fees forever
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Posted on 10/05/2021 5:56:05 PM PDT by algore

The largest public library system in the country has become the latest to eliminate all late fees.

Effective immediately, the New York Public Library system will not charge fines on overdue materials, and all library card holders have had their accounts cleared of any prior late fees or fines, including replacement fees for lost materials, the NYPL announced on Tuesday, in what it called a change intended to level the playing field for all library patrons and encourage use of library resources.

Fines are "an antiquated, ineffective way to encourage patrons to return their books; for those who can afford the fines, they are barely an incentive," New York Public Library President Anthony W. Marx said in a news release.

"For those who can't afford the fines — disproportionately low-income New Yorkers — they become a real barrier to access that we can no longer accept. This is a step towards a more equitable society, with more New Yorkers reading and using libraries, and we are proud to make it happen."

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I wondered how they would get rid of all the inconvenient books.
1 posted on 10/05/2021 5:56:05 PM PDT by algore
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They are going to replace books with the ebonics version of "Speak 'n' Spell".

2 posted on 10/05/2021 6:04:54 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: algore

Toasted, the concept of a Public Library is, in the US at least.


3 posted on 10/05/2021 6:06:25 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Critical Marx Theory is The SOLUTION....)
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To: algore

Does anybody in New York know how to read?


4 posted on 10/05/2021 6:06:28 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Covid Is All About Mail In Balloting)
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To: algore

Free books! Yeah!


5 posted on 10/05/2021 6:10:24 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong)
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"For those who can't afford the fines—-disproportionately low-income New Yorkers . . .

You know, my experience is that if you return the book on-time, the fines are $0. Are they saying low-income New Yorkers are too lazy or depraved to return a book?

As you imply, some of those books will go fast. Why not offer people who need it the lesson that good things are worth protecting, and that books are good? Abolishing fines won't do that, but it will actually help keep the poor, poor.

And that, at least, will help keep liberals happy.

6 posted on 10/05/2021 6:10:47 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: algore

Those old books aren’t being kept or stolen anymore.

They aren’t hawt shoes or iPhones.


7 posted on 10/05/2021 6:11:39 PM PDT by dforest (Freaking insane world. )
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My county library contracts with a company that gets the names of book deadbeats and often gets to get $10 out of those borrowers that don’t return a book within 42 days of the due date.

It’s nice to collect $10 bills for affixing a signature to a contract.


8 posted on 10/05/2021 6:15:00 PM PDT by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: SamuraiScot

Oh come on, these poor folks can’t return books because they can’t get things like library cards and voter ID, stuff like that. /s


9 posted on 10/05/2021 6:15:52 PM PDT by dforest (Freaking insane world. )
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To: algore
 
 
Good news for Jerry!
 
 
 
 

10 posted on 10/05/2021 6:18:57 PM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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Too late for Al Bundy...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5bfH9q3nAY


11 posted on 10/05/2021 6:21:50 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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You know, my experience is that if you return the book on-time, the fines are $0. Are they saying low-income New Yorkers are too lazy or depraved to return a book?


I think what they are saying is that expecting books to be returned on time is somehow racist.


12 posted on 10/05/2021 6:22:09 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: algore

Miss DeGroot : You’d like to check these out, would you? Well, I’m afraid you can’t! Do you know why?

Young Al : ‘Cause I didn’t bring you French fries like the other boys do?

Miss DeGroot : You’re a bad seed, Bundy. You can’t have these books because you are consistently overdue, you never have the money to pay... and looking at you now I doubt you ever will.

Young Al : I’ll bring ‘em back, I promise.

Miss DeGroot : You always promise, but you don’t follow through. And that, in a nutshell, is your problem. Make a promise, keep a promise.

Young Al : Yeah, yeah, bake a pie, eat a pie.


13 posted on 10/05/2021 6:24:41 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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My little Cow Town of under 300 people (Est. 1887) has a Library in what used to be the old bank building. For a bunch of backwater FARMERS and HICKS living in Flyover Country, I'll bet our Library and her selections would put quite a few others to shame.

Libraries, Police, Fire, EMTs and decent roads to drive on are the ONLY things I never complain about when my Tax Dollars are at stake.

"If you want to support the library with a financial donation, you may make a check out to the Friends of the...Lending Library. Almost all of our books were donated. Although our shelves are filled, we can accept recently released books (for adults) and DVDs.

14 posted on 10/05/2021 6:28:31 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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I guess we are just lucky those disadvantaged folk don’t have fireplaces.


15 posted on 10/05/2021 6:28:51 PM PDT by shoff (Vote Democrat it beats thinking!)
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To: lapsus calami

Yeah ‘71 That was my first year on the job. Bad year for Libraries, bad year for America


16 posted on 10/05/2021 6:35:08 PM PDT by The FIGHTIN Illini (Wake up fellow Patriots before it's too late)
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At the public library near where I live, I see very few people in the book shelf isles. I do see young Asians seated around the perimeter, availing themselves of the free wifi to work on their college classes, and POC browsing social media on the many free computers at the center tables.

Upstairs — the children’s floor — is always packed with kids looking for and reading books. A very good sign.


17 posted on 10/05/2021 6:37:49 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Aisles


18 posted on 10/05/2021 6:39:08 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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Fines are "an antiquated, ineffective way to encourage patrons to return their books

I miss books. I must have over 500 of them.

But printed books are no longer what I read. Amazon to iPad in an instant. No limit on how many you can carry around with you. I think the days of printed books are numbered. It's printed books that are "antiquated". Libraries must be hurting.

19 posted on 10/05/2021 6:39:50 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (Ted, you finally endorsed.)
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The last time I had a library fine was when I returned the book a day late and they charged me ten cents. I didn’t have any coins on me and had to break a buck. I thought they would give me a break for ten cents, but nope. It’s quite the bargain when you think about it.


20 posted on 10/05/2021 6:42:55 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog. )
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