Posted on 09/04/2003 8:51:55 AM PDT by Polycarp
My anger over the pathological nature of "legal" baby killing and the individuals on these threads who see Hill's crime as somehow "worse" than that of the baby killers has led me to say things on these threads that I don't really believe, just to point out the rank hypocrisy and stupidity of certain posters on these threads.
I've made my points. I'll stop using bitter sarcasm and cynicism now and state clearly:
1)Hill murdered an abortionist, and deserved the punishment meeted out to him by the state. The state has the right, recognized in 2000 years of Christian moral theology, to impose capital punishment. But In all honesty, I have reservations about the death penalty.
2) Abortion may be "legal" but it is still a crime against humanity. Though it would be unjust to try them, by ex-post-facto prosecution once abortion is again made illegal, abortionists still must pay some measure of justice for their crimes. Revoking their licences and general social ostracizing would be minimum and insufficient justice.
3) Vigiliante "justice" and ex-post-facto law cannot be tolerated in a civil society. However, neither can judicial tyrrany and legislation by judicial fiat. Civil rebellion against judicial tyranny and legislation by judicial fiat is not now unwarranted. However, it may in the future be necessary. In the context of innevitable future civil rebellion against judicial tyranny and legislation by judicial fiat it is very likely that certain individuals might engage in vigilantism and ex-post-facto justice. Don't say I didn't tell you so.
4)In the current situation of pathological legalized violence in the form of "legal" baby murdering, everyone must understand that violence will always beget more violence, outside of the abortion clinics. Expect more cases like Hill. It is axiomatic that the violence of "legal" abortion will beget further violence, usually among the intellectually/emotionally/psychologically unstable.
5) Because it is axiomatic that violence, even the violence of "legal" abortion, will always beget further violence, it is evidence of gross ignorance of human nature and Natural Law that certain folks express surprise and dismay at the actions of someone like Hill.
6) Furthermore, to express more outrage at Hill's crime than the pathological violence ("legal" abortion) that precipitated Hill's crime is a symptom of a culture that has completely lost its moral compass and is on the straight and narrow path to self destruction.
I suppose it's only "impossible" and it's only "grandstanding" if that's what folks who want to pick a fight about it desire to see it as. For me, I have a clear conscience that that's not my intent at all.Intent doesn't really matter. What matters is the reasonable expectation of human nature when a large group of people read such things. One can't willfully disregard human nature, damn the consequences, and claim a clear conscience without endangering one's credibility.
I don't recall ever calling you "hysterical." However, all I have to work with is what you post. And, desperately attempting to drag the shibboleth of abortion into statements of satisfaction that a murderer got his just desserts could conceivably be called "hysterical" behavior. Sorry, but its a fair criticism.
It's not a question of "liability" - you can't bring dead children back to life.
It's a question of using deadly force to prevent the future taking of innocent life.
The abortionist and his henchman were both physically at the scene and they were trying to make sure that infants were killed that day.
The theoretical Xerox guy was there to check the toner.
If I believed that Paul Hill's intention was to exact revenge on Britton for abortions he had already committed, then I wouldn't even bother considering his thought process.
Oh sure it does, there are several references to the sacrifice of children on the altar of Moloch, which is what the pagans in the region (and the pagans of this region, too) were/are doing.
Neither do I.
and I don't seek to eumlate his actions
Nor do I.
My beliefs and actions are consistent
With regard to Paul Hill, certainly.
Yours are not.
According to your logic, they are.
By Hill's reasoning the Church should have "punished" the Sanhedrin court for conspiring against and persecuting our Savior until his death. The same could be said of any number of nations or people who have persecuted the Church and murdered innocents. This does not mean that we should do nothing. Instead, we should strive to see that it is dealt with through the proper channels as outlined in the Bible.
According to God's Word, the distribution of justice is the duty of the duly constitutied governments of men. When they behave unjustly and tyranically, and when there is no other legal recourse, only then is it right for Christians to take up arms. We have not even remotely approached that point.
It is fairly likely that within the next ten years that the Supreme Court will do away with the current fraudulent interpretation of the Constitution, ending the precedent that allows the vile practice of abortion to be practiced in this nation. Then all murderers of children will be treated equally under the law.
THAT is what we should say prayers for and work unceasingly to achieve, not the extralegal murder of sinners, and definitely not the glorification of a false teacher.
JMHO
No, don't do it! Pleaese don't!...Boo - freakin' - Hoo!
Between this stupidity and the notion that contraceptives be outlawed, a picture is painted that terrifies the middle, and rightfully so.
It is for these reasons that people go out of the way to deny elective office to folks like y'all.
But I question the wisdom of enacting an ex post facto statute complete with imprisonment - although one could argue that it was an effective deNazifying tool in postwar Germany.
Actually, its a good thing that the kooks rant and rave and make asses of themselves like this. I'm much more worried about the knife that I can't see than the one that some idiot waves around in public.
According to witnesses, he dropped his weapon on the ground and waited for the police to take him into custody.
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