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RandallFlagg: WMDs = Cheese
4-12-4 | RandallFlagg

Posted on 04/12/2004 6:18:05 AM PDT by RandallFlagg

The world (Except Saddam) claimed to know for a fact that there were illegal WMDs in Iraq. The left was screaming, "NO war for oil," and, "Bush lied -people died," for over a year now. I have a theory about this that hasn't collapsed to any new facts as of yet. In fact, it's strengthened.

I take these people on every day in the web in other forums. They shout, "Bish Lied," and I shove back with, "Name the lie." They usually answer with, "Well, well, well..... He IMPLIED---," and their case is destroyed by their own words. But I ask myself after every leftist I crush: Why are they so easily swayed to believe Saddam over the world?

I've served and have been to the Gulf. I've talked to Arabs in the area and found them to be just regular people trying to do what they can to get by in this world. I've shaken hands with President George H.W. Bush. I was never into politics until I became a gun owner in 1996. I've read and seen media bias for years and not recognized it until Columbine happened -20 miles from my home.

But, why? Why has there been such a rampant negative cloud over President Bush over the last few years -especially during Iraq? Everyone has been saying that Saddam had WMDs. Why, all of a sudden, is Bush a liar and all other leaders and intelligence operatives get a pass on this?

"9-11 changed everything" Is commonly said. But, those on the left don't really mean it like we FReepers do. To them, they see it as an oppertunity to take America down at the knees. But their blindness has hidden the fact that they're being led down a one-way road labeled, "WMDs: This Way," which is heading off a cliff.

The WMDs would have taken the space of an area of about a 2-car garage. Broken apart, they'd be even smaller. Rush Limbaugh quoted some fact about botulinum toxin: "One thimble can kill one million people. Saddam had 18,000 litres of it. Enough to kill the current population of the world -THREE TIMES."

Wouldn't terrorists be drooling at the chance? Wouldn't these monsters be saying, "They're in Iraq! Let's go get them and use them against America," and swarm into that country by the thousands to get at these stockpiles before WE did? Didn't terrorists from neighboring countries swarm into Iraq before, during and after the war?

My theory is as follows:
1. The world said Saddam had massive stockpiles of WMDs.
2. Terrorists wanted these to use against their enemies (Us). Thus, the WMDs were to be the bait. To lure terrorists into Iraq, or use the terrorists' movements to lead us to them.
3. We knew where they were. It wouldn't be hard to track them and see where they were, who intercepted them and when.
4. Our people couldn't announce to the globe that all of the WMD stockpiles have been found because the terrorists wouldn't try to enter Iraq anymore; the incentives were removed and they'd be able to dissappear again.

It's that there was a need to kill these beasts, but we couldn't find them. We had to make them come out of their holes and come to us. We needed a lure that they couldn't resist. And it was there the whole time.

Thusfar, nothing else has convinced me that this theory couldn't be true. It was a strategy played by our government to destroy the enemy using their own desires to acquire WMDs that is resulting in their destruction.

Until President Bush comes out and says, "There were never any WMDs in Iraq. Never have been, never will be," my theory will stand.


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This is my first "Blog-type" post to this section. I might add to it later as more news is made public.

Thanks for reading my mind.

1 posted on 04/12/2004 6:18:06 AM PDT by RandallFlagg
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To: RandallFlagg
Very interesting theory... one I can believe.
I have always determined that the media is so stupid to ever think that our gov't officials would ever disclose information. Yet, they seem to persist in asking those idiotic questions. Because those go unanswered, the media think they have that 'gotcha' moment. Jeez.

The latest claim is the 'ultra secretive Bush administration.' Good! There is something about GW that I can admire and trust.
2 posted on 04/12/2004 7:24:13 AM PDT by Abynormal
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To: Abynormal
EXACTLY! Does the left and media really want Bush to have shouted from the top of the USS ABRAHAM LINCOLN, "We won't ever find Iraq's WMDs. They were never there. All you terrorists can run back into hiding now," and see what happens?

Wait! Perhaps they do so they can blame something ELSE on Bush.
3 posted on 04/12/2004 9:35:53 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">miserable failure)
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To: RandallFlagg
Bump for the first day of blogging on Free Republic!!
4 posted on 04/12/2004 10:23:35 PM PDT by potlatch ( Medals do not make a man. Morals do.)
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To: RandallFlagg
Good post, and please ping me if you ever do get any trolls to take the bait. Of course, you have to be careful, because the fighting might get so intense, you may get the thread moved to the "Smokey Backroom". hehe
5 posted on 04/13/2004 12:49:21 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: RandallFlagg
Very interesting, R.F.
6 posted on 04/18/2004 2:44:38 AM PDT by risk
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To: RandallFlagg
Good first post, correlates with my thoughts re War on Terror.
From the US perspective, the best defense was an offense and Iraq was the place to put our defense not the USA homeland. Let 'em come and let us Kill them there. I think it will work, we just cannot go Wobbley.
7 posted on 04/20/2004 4:20:50 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero)
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To: RandallFlagg

Good thoughts.

I have got to check out this blogging stuff;


8 posted on 07/02/2004 11:58:42 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (.)
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To: RandallFlagg

Although there are obvious benefits to keeping weapon stockpiles quiet, is it worth losing the election? At what point does President Bush take this ammunition away from his critics and reveal the evidence of greater amounts of WMDs?


9 posted on 07/02/2004 12:01:22 PM PDT by Eagle2001
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To: Eagle2001
Although there are obvious benefits to keeping weapon stockpiles quiet, is it worth losing the election?

President Bush probably feels that keeping American lives safe from these weapons is more vital than an election.

At what point does President Bush take this ammunition away from his critics and reveal the evidence of greater amounts of WMDs?

The timing seems perfect. We've almost got the terrorists in Iraq routed out, Syria is coming under closer scrutiny, and Saddam is standing trial.

I can completely forsee President Bush making an address to the people something like this:
"We have always known, as Secretary Powell has stated in the past, where Saddam's stockpiles were. This strategy killed 2 birds with one stone: we gained intelligence vital to the mission, and we killed and captured terrorists who would have murdered every single person living in America had they succeeded in their evil plans.
If we had simply went into Iraq and siezed Saddam's Weapons, the seekers of those weapons would be free to flee to other nations in the region to seek out other means of acquiring these deadly items to serve their purpose.
If the American people feel like I betrayed their trust by keeping this secret out of the public view for their own security, you can feel free to vote me out of this office in November. What I chose to do, I chose to do in order to defend and protect American lives; not keep myself in office. I believe that the American Presidency is more about that, than simply politics and power."


I think the nation would be grateful for President Bush to have made this decision. Especially after he revealed how many actual WMDs we found and confirmed.
I think it will suprise many -myself included.
10 posted on 07/02/2004 12:24:25 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">Hatriotism)
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To: RandallFlagg

Clever..... I like your theory.


11 posted on 07/02/2004 1:02:40 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (.)
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To: RandallFlagg
Pretty good theory, and it jibes pretty well with mine that the WMD's we widely completely destroyed in the opening sorties of the war. You can find my outline here.
12 posted on 07/02/2004 10:40:31 PM PDT by numberonepal (goodnewsamerica.us Fast News For Common Sense People)
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To: RandallFlagg

A good read.Thanks for posting your thoughts. :-)


13 posted on 07/02/2004 10:45:26 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: RandallFlagg

It makes a great deal of sense. Everyone knows the WMD's were there, and they didn't just "vanish." We recently removed several tons of uranium from Iraq (though this has not received any mention in the "mainstream" press).


14 posted on 07/10/2004 2:22:25 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee

bttt


15 posted on 07/11/2004 11:15:02 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: RandallFlagg

Well my theory is that we killed or captured Osama long ago and WE are making the tapes urging terrorists to fight in Iraq where we are killing them at a 175 to 1 ratio. The media whining about a "quagmire" helps that strategery. The WMD's are (mostly) safely out of harm's way on some boat and Syria etc.

The Afgan campaign destroyed the training camps and madrasses, but it scattered many existing terrorists and freed them of their command structure making them more dangerous. Hence Iraq.


16 posted on 07/11/2004 1:43:19 PM PDT by Poincare
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To: Poincare

I thought of that as well, but that might be considered by too many to be something along the lines of, "SEE?! Bush IS the terrorist, and is responsible for all terror-related deaths after he captured OBL because he didn't tell anyone the truth. If he would have told the truth about OBL's capture or death, the terrorists would have given up."

Yes, the librats ARE that dim.


17 posted on 07/11/2004 1:54:52 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">Hatriotism)
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To: RandallFlagg

Maybe that is why President Bush was so peeved at Kerry during the first debate - Kerry knew the administration deal (he had to be briefed, after all...) and still used the "public lie" against Bush.


18 posted on 11/11/2004 7:52:12 AM PST by bitt (I miss Teresa already.)
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To: bitt

Yeah. President Bush did look like he was biting his tongue pretty hard that evening.


19 posted on 11/11/2004 8:50:19 AM PST by RandallFlagg (FReepers, Do NOT let the voter fraud stories die!!!! (Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name))
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WMDs found again bump.


20 posted on 11/25/2004 6:46:10 AM PST by RandallFlagg (FReepers, Do NOT let the voter fraud stories die!!!! (Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name))
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To: RandallFlagg
That makes a great deal of sense to me. The "lure for the possibility of gain" approach has been used successfully for thousands of years. The "Bush lied" drivel was one of the reasons that Kerry lost the election. He tried to make the same argument. Whenever someone pressed him on it, he had to take another position, and ultimately, people didn't buy it. I still think the coalition either has the WMDs or knows where they are.
21 posted on 11/25/2004 7:24:33 AM PST by Uncle Vlad
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To: RandallFlagg

Good theory. Thanks.


22 posted on 11/28/2004 10:45:27 AM PST by Heysenbergwashere (Need.......More.......Popcorn.........)
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To: RandallFlagg

Ping. Thanks for linking this from another thread.


23 posted on 11/28/2004 5:13:33 PM PST by jan in Colorado (The truth shall set you free)
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To: RandallFlagg

This is one of the best essays I've seen on the whole Iraq issue. Absolutely amazing. I've blogged a few times here, but never to this kind of effect. You're definitely getting a link on my blog. You need to do more blogging, too--you could really go somewhere with this.


24 posted on 01/12/2005 9:07:36 PM PST by unknownblogger
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To: unknownblogger

Well, thanks for the kind words, and for the bump.

Perhaps I overanalyze and over strategize. But it still seems to be the only explanation that would adhere to the data we have to date.


25 posted on 01/12/2005 9:11:54 PM PST by RandallFlagg (FReepers, Do NOT let the voter fraud stories die!!!! (Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name))
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Three-Month-BUMP!


26 posted on 03/12/2005 3:42:15 PM PST by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: RandallFlagg
Thanks Randal for your Military Service as well as your insight...this is right in line with my own ideas about the truth of WMD...don't forget the Russian influence here!

They still have visions of grandeur well beyond Iraq, and we all know they just didn't make the best decisions anyway!

So we had a Tenet slam dunk the WMD was in Iraq...
Then evidence just prior to the start of the Iraq war the Russians moved massive assets out of Iraq etc. To me Bush decided to keep a lid on things until we could settle the union and democracy of the new government of Iraq, and in fact, then be ready to be very credible to launch a new offensive in any direction from Iraq to rid the world of the next Axis state of Evil...Syria just may be next, Iran's next revolution could be coordinated with the Syria invasion, with Israel in reserve for either Syria or Iran...

So now we know, I support our war effort, and the war on terror...no way I want my Grandchildren to fear this evil in the ME...
27 posted on 01/26/2006 10:21:49 PM PST by Turborules (Liberal Ideas today as always are a Oxymoron)
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To: RandallFlagg

Great post RF! Thanks for linking it to the other thread tonight!


28 posted on 05/11/2006 12:04:39 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! I *LOVE* my attitude problem. Beware the Enemedia!)
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To: Justanobody

Thank you.


29 posted on 05/11/2006 3:18:26 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: RandallFlagg
I've read and seen media bias for years and not recognized it until Columbine happened -20 miles from my home.

Same thing happened to me--I was overseas and witnessed an incident that was aired on CNN. Their spin didn't even remotely resemble what actually happened.

30 posted on 06/21/2006 8:19:59 PM PDT by randog (What the...?!)
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To: RandallFlagg

good post


31 posted on 06/21/2006 8:25:26 PM PDT by dogcaller
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To: RandallFlagg

Bump!


32 posted on 09/28/2006 2:37:26 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar ("Being nice will get us killed")
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To: Jet Jaguar

Bump back at ya.


33 posted on 04/08/2008 5:42:30 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Satisfaction was my sin)
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To: RandallFlagg; Cindy

Another history bump.

Let’s see how it plays.


34 posted on 04/08/2008 5:51:19 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Yes.


35 posted on 04/08/2008 1:02:04 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: RandallFlagg
Isn't Randal Flagg the name of the demon in Stephen King's “The Stand”?
36 posted on 04/08/2008 1:06:28 PM PDT by allmendream
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To: allmendream

In other books as well. He gets around.
Well, at least he did until a giant friggin’ SPIDER ate him!


37 posted on 04/08/2008 2:39:27 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Satisfaction was my sin)
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To: RandallFlagg
I thought I recognized the name.

“Im the walkin dude, I can see all the world!
Twist your minds with fear, Im the man with the power.
Among the living, follow me or die!
Man, fights man! divided they cant stand!
United, they can battle back, and make him force his hand!
Fear, yes fear! his end is growing near,
He didnt count on mans good faith,
And their will to persevere.”

Anthrax “Among the Living”; a song about Randal Flag.

That is all. Carry on. ;)

38 posted on 04/08/2008 2:56:11 PM PDT by allmendream
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Bump


39 posted on 10/24/2008 10:19:15 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Satisfaction was my sin)
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To: RandallFlagg

Bump again.


40 posted on 10/24/2008 10:21:33 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Jet Jaguar

2-year-later BUMP!


41 posted on 06/06/2010 9:04:53 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (30-year smoker, E-Cigs helped me quit, and O wants me back smoking again?)
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To: RandallFlagg

And Bump again!


42 posted on 06/08/2010 10:34:23 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (*)
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To: RandallFlagg

Article from October 24th, 2010: Wikileaks: Saddam’s WMD program existed in Iraq
The Examiner ^ | October 24th, 2010 | Jim Kouri
Posted on December 8, 2010 1:40:57 AM EST by RobinMasters

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2639210/posts

For posterity.


43 posted on 12/07/2010 11:00:55 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (*)
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To: RandallFlagg

Wikileaks documents show WMDs found in Iraq
Hot Air ^ | October 23, 2010 | ED MORRISSEY
Posted on October 24, 2010 2:47:57 PM EDT by RobinMasters

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2613643/posts


44 posted on 12/07/2010 11:09:38 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (*)
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To: RandallFlagg

great post,RandallFlagg! you have so aptly captured words
that every liberal and Bush-hater should have to recite ad nauseum.
Unfortunately, although GW can be released from the yard-arm
now, this casts a deep shadow over those who clamored for Bushs’ hide to the detriment of their mortal souls!

saltnlemons


45 posted on 12/07/2010 11:23:28 PM PST by tajgirvan ( "Whom shall separate us from the love of Christ? " Romans 8:35)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Wikileaks: WMD program existed in Iraq prior to US invasion
Law Enforcement Examiner ^ | 7 December 10 | Jim Kouri
Posted on December 7, 2010 7:50:21 PM EST by LSUfan

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2639072/posts


46 posted on 12/07/2010 11:34:52 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (*)
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To: RandallFlagg

Okay.. you hooked me with the cutsie thread title!

LOL

Hope you are well boyfriend & at peace with this crazy world.


47 posted on 12/07/2010 11:36:40 PM PST by DollyCali (Don't tell God how big your storm is... tell your storm how BIG your God is!)
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