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Saddam a 'Monster' but No Evidence He Threatened America
Peroutka for President Website ^ | March 10, 2004 | michael peroutka

Posted on 05/18/2004 4:28:30 PM PDT by CWOJackson

One of the reasons I was against our war with Iraq, and still am, is because I agree with something very wise that John Quincy Adams said in 1821. Referring to America, Adams said of our country:

“She goes not abroad in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own.”

In other words, applying what might be called the Adams Doctrine to Iraq, I hope for the best for Iraq. I hope Iraq WILL become free and independent, with liberty and justice for all. But, it is NOT our role to try to make this happen by shedding the blood of our fellow citizens in a war, and spending tens of billions of dollars there.

We are the guardians and defenders only of our OWN freedom, our OWN independence, our OWN liberty. When these things are seriously threatened, THEN we go to war. To try and save the world leads to big trouble -- which is what we are in in Iraq.

The Bible also warns us against misadventures like our war in Iraq. God tells us, in Proverbs 26:17, “He that passeth by, and meddleth with strife belonging not to him, is like one that taketh a dog by the ears.” Sad to say, in Iraq, we have meddled with strife that was none of our business and we are paying the price of having picked this particular dog up by the ears.

Incidentally, it’s interesting how, over the years, several people actually referred to Saddam Hussein, literally, as a monster. Rep. Henry Hyde, a Republican from Illinois, called Hussein a monster. The Republican Senator Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania called him a monster. Al Gore also called him a monster.

Now, I have no doubt that Saddam Hussein was, and is, by ANY definition, a monster. But, he was not a monster who posed any real threat to our vital national security interests.

It was a very serious and dangerous mistake for us to go abroad to destroy him.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: constitatushunparty; nuttierthannader
I did a search and didn't find this previously posted.
1 posted on 05/18/2004 4:28:33 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson

Saddam Hussein sponsored terrorism against US allies like Israel. Under his regime, Iraq was a terrorist state. This included Al Qaeda, who directly attacked the United States, and had training bases in Iraq.

According to all of the evidence and intelligence, this terrorist regime was amassing weapons of mass destruction.

This is a war on terror and Iraq was a terrorist state. If we don't bring the war to them, they will bring the war to us.


2 posted on 05/18/2004 4:32:03 PM PDT by DameAutour (It's not Bush, it's the Congress.)
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To: CWOJackson
I'm sure the writer supported Adolf Hitler too. Germany didn't threaten the US. Neither did Tojo's Japan.

And what about that "Rape of Nanking". Don't bother this guy about it. He'd just as soon let it go.

Maybe we can talk about the murder down the street? After all, it didn't happen to his family. Shouldn't bother going after the murderer. He might threaten you next.

3 posted on 05/18/2004 4:32:04 PM PDT by narby (Iraq prison abuse looks like Frat house hazing to me.)
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To: CWOJackson
I did a search and didn't find this previously posted.

For good reason - it's the same old same, old scared rabbits

4 posted on 05/18/2004 4:32:30 PM PDT by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and sign up for a monthly donation.)
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To: CWOJackson

How many times does it have to be repeated. Hussein was firing missiles at our pilots when we went to war against him. If firing missiles at american troops doesn't count as threatening behaviour, what does?


5 posted on 05/18/2004 4:33:57 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: narby
"I'm sure the writer supported Adolf Hitler too."

I'm not sure. He's the "Constitution Party" candidate for President. Since he is being offered by so many as an alternative to President Bush, I thought it important that people get to know him better.

6 posted on 05/18/2004 4:38:48 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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Yes we should just sit here in America and watch as genocide is being carried out & do nothing. Why send food to people who are going to be killed anyway lets stop all foreign aid, and let people bound for genocide starve, . OK now that we have decided that lets stop even talking about the bad things going on in the third world , after all if we arent going to do anything why even speak of it. Lets just ignore people like Saddam until we have so many of them out there they attack us.


7 posted on 05/18/2004 4:50:19 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I aint wrong, I aint sorry , and I am probably going to do it again.)
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To: CWOJackson
One of the reasons I was against our war with Iraq, and still am, is because I agree with something very wise that John Quincy Adams said in 1821. Referring to America, Adams said of our country: “She goes not abroad in search of monsters to destroy."

Yes Adams did say that. But eight years later he wrote of conflict between Islam and the West: (John Quincy Adams on the War We Are In)

Adams feared that Western statesmen failed to appreciate the Christian roots and context of liberalism. In America and increasingly in Europe, religious freedom had found fertile soil in the Christian notion that religion is primarily about belief and only secondarily about action. Hence, people could be left free to think whatever they wanted so long as they submitted peacefully to the laws. Islam is different; it is fundamentally about law, not about belief. The wish of Islam is that the whole world follow the Law of the Koran. Finding a genuine idea of toleration in a religion that is about law and wants to be universal would not be easy, Adams argued.

8 posted on 05/18/2004 5:05:37 PM PDT by catpuppy (John Kerry! When hair is all that matters.)
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This is the man some freepers are encouraging everyone to vote for instead of President Bush, the Conservative Party's so-called candidate for president.


9 posted on 05/18/2004 5:10:29 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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This is the man some freepers are encouraging everyone to vote for instead of President Bush, the Conservative Party's so-called candidate for president.

I know that many people feel that it is more important to cast a principled vote for a sure loser than to have a chance of victory with a major candidate whose beliefs don't quite match one's own. Why a certain stubborn loss trumps a partial victory is a puzzle I will never understand.

Third parties do not win the Presidency, unless and until they have won substantial following at the local level. The best chance for achieving one's political goals is to reform a party from within. Not easy but far more likely.

10 posted on 05/18/2004 5:22:08 PM PDT by catpuppy (John Kerry! When hair is all that matters.)
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I could "posibly" understand if the candidate was one of principle...but this guy seems to think Saddam just needed a little counseling.


11 posted on 05/18/2004 5:23:40 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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No evidence he threatened America, yet the first WTC bombers came into this country using Iraqi passports. Ramzi Yousef, leader of that attack, came into the US using an Iraqi passport, as well as 3 of his "comrades". Now if you are going to forge a passport, why the hell would you choose Iraq of all places? Why not Israel or some other US friendly nation? Why would you choose Iraq when your not even an Iraqi? Oh that`s right, it`s called money.


12 posted on 05/18/2004 8:32:13 PM PDT by stillnoprotestsagainstmuslims (I`m still waiting for the protests against terrorism.)
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To: CWOJackson
... this guy seems to think Saddam just needed a little counseling.

That's like thinking that Hitler just wanted a little lebensraum.

13 posted on 05/18/2004 8:56:12 PM PDT by catpuppy (John Kerry! When hair is all that matters.)
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To: catpuppy

Very good post. That was a pleasure to read.

Corey


14 posted on 05/19/2004 12:45:12 PM PDT by TheRIGHTChoice
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To: vbmoneyspender
How many times does it have to be repeated. Hussein was firing missiles at our pilots when we went to war against him. If firing missiles at American troops doesn't count as threatening behavior, what does?

And, Let's not forget the botched murder plan against ex-president Bush.

15 posted on 05/19/2004 4:50:36 PM PDT by fritzz (How can two fortune-tellers look at each other without laughing - Cicero)
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To: CWOJackson

Saddam was a threat not only to the US, but the world. If these guys want to vote for someone else, fine, but these damnable lies they are telling are just despicable. Find something else to bash the President for you leftist anti Americans.


16 posted on 05/19/2004 9:25:52 PM PDT by ladyinred (Torture is what happened to Nick Berg!)
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