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A Jibjab showdown
CNN ^ | July 26, 2004 | Allen Wastler

Posted on 07/27/2004 2:50:28 PM PDT by swilhelm73

NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - With something as fun as a cartoon Bush and Kerry hurling musical epithets at one another, you knew lawyers would have to get involved.

And, unfortunately for JibJab.com, they have.

You know the Jibjab thing I'm talking about, right? The flash animation movie swirling around the Internet with President George Bush and Senator John Kerry singing to the tune of Woody Guthrie's "This Land Is Your Land."

Bush: "You're a liberal sissy!"

Kerry: "You're a right wing nut job!"

Both: "This land will surely vote for me!"

The bit is hilarious. Unless you are The Richmond Organization, a music publisher that owns the copyright to Guthrie's tune through its Ludlow Music unit.

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1 posted on 07/27/2004 2:50:28 PM PDT by swilhelm73
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To: swilhelm73

The marching refrain with with Rummy, Bush and Cheney is side splitting..


2 posted on 07/27/2004 2:52:37 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Its noteworthy that the two biggest shills for the left are Michael Moore and Al Franken..)
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To: swilhelm73

I thought satire got exempted from all that.


3 posted on 07/27/2004 2:52:52 PM PDT by Asclepius (protectionists would outsource our dignity and prosperity in return for illusory job security)
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To: swilhelm73

Wouldn't the Pinko Guthrie want his music to be "for the good of all"?


4 posted on 07/27/2004 2:54:05 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (Free Brigitte Bardot.)
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To: Asclepius

Exactly, parodies are protected against copyright.


5 posted on 07/27/2004 2:54:36 PM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: swilhelm73
I guess this means the end for my joke with the punchline:
"Pardon me Roy, is that the cat that chewed you new shoes...?

(Chattanooga Choo Choo)

6 posted on 07/27/2004 2:55:08 PM PDT by Snardius
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To: Snardius

Someone just used that joke at a meeting I went to.


7 posted on 07/27/2004 2:57:51 PM PDT by theophilusscribe ("America is too great for small dreams." —Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: swilhelm73
Nope.

All this will do is give the parody more publicity. Political commentary is really immune from this kind of thing. I was involved with an e-bay parody used on a campaign in 2002, and their lawsuit and all their high-paid lawyers fell flat on their face (after lots and lots of free publicity). The same was true with Ralph Nader's Mastercard commercial parody.
8 posted on 07/27/2004 2:58:06 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Santorum 2008)
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To: swilhelm73
Gr. Let's forgo that this song is a tribute to America and it's people, and should be in the public domain anyways...

This was used for "satirical purposes," which, last time I checked, was covered under fair use (but I'm no Copyright Atty.).

From Stanford Copyright Site

2. Parody

A parody is a work that ridicules another, usually well-known work, by imitating it in a comic way. Judges understand that by its nature, parody demands some taking from the original work being parodied. Unlike other forms of fair use, a fairly extensive use of the original work is permitted in a parody in order to "conjure up" the original.

9 posted on 07/27/2004 2:59:20 PM PDT by locochupacabra
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To: Asclepius

Yes, however they would still need to pay royalties to the copyright holders for use of the song in a the satire / parody.

The same way weird al has to when he spoofs michael jackson or any other artist. Or when paul shanklin has to when he does 'in a yugo'.


10 posted on 07/27/2004 3:00:23 PM PDT by flashbunny (.)
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To: swilhelm73

This is great, it just means more publicity for them.


11 posted on 07/27/2004 3:04:06 PM PDT by Flashman_at_the_charge (A proud member of the self-preservation society)
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To: cardinal4
The marching refrain with with Rummy, Bush and Cheney is side splitting..

Agreed. The whole thing is as funny as can be. Lord only knows we can all use a laugh during this time.

12 posted on 07/27/2004 3:05:04 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: theophilusscribe
Someone just used that joke at a meeting I went to.

It's one of my old reliable "eye-rollers".

13 posted on 07/27/2004 3:05:38 PM PDT by Snardius
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To: Snardius

:o)


14 posted on 07/27/2004 3:09:24 PM PDT by theophilusscribe ("America is too great for small dreams." —Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: swilhelm73

Oh good grief you people (The Richmond Organization), get a grip!


15 posted on 07/27/2004 3:09:27 PM PDT by libertylover (The Constitution is a road-map to liberty. Let's start following it again.)
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To: flashbunny
Yes, however they would still need to pay royalties to the copyright holders for use of the song in a the satire / parody.

Exactly. They aren't being sued for infringement, but for fees. Believe me, the musical licensing folks are ruthless.

Which one recently tried to sue the Girl Scouts for singing songs around the campfire, until public opinion dissuaded them?

16 posted on 07/27/2004 3:09:57 PM PDT by prion (Yes, as a matter of fact, I AM the spelling police)
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I tried to find the Richmond Organization website so I could tell them where to shove their lawsuit. No dice.

I'd threaten to never purchase any of their material again but I doubt anyone's bought Woody Guthrie since 1971. Empty bluff.

17 posted on 07/27/2004 3:10:29 PM PDT by twgiles
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To: swilhelm73

Send JibJab to all your leftist enemies. It will drive them crazy it is so funny. Your friends will laugh so hard they may pee in their pants. Highly recommended for lots of laughter.


18 posted on 07/27/2004 3:14:58 PM PDT by mohresearcher
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To: prion

Yes, you are right about ruthless collection of royalties by performing rights organizations. Broadcast Music Inc. (BMI) is one of them. I co-wrote a song that has been played regularly for more than eight years on a nationally syndicated talk show. BMI has stiffed me and my co-writer. We have never been paid a cent and we have angrily demanded payment because we know damn well BMI collects from EVERYBODY they can find playing music. These rights organizations mostly are a scam. They collect a lot and pay little and late, if at all.


19 posted on 07/27/2004 3:19:54 PM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: mohresearcher

"Highly recommended for lots of laughter."

Yes I found it late one night, while home alone. I thoroughly enjoyed playing it about 20 times in a row.

And these Richmond Music, or whatever, should know their lawsuit has ZERO chance of success. Parodies are absolutely permitted use. In fact, I remember hearing the rapper who did "Ganster's Paradise" (I forget his name) talk about how he didn't want to perrmit Weird Al Yankovich to use the tune, but that of course in the end he couldn't stop him. And then he said that although he wasn't happy about it, he was glad Weird Al had had success with his parody, which seemed quite sporting to me. That's really one of the great ones btw, and to the rapper I can say that I'd never had heard of his song without Weird Al's "Amish Paradise" version.


20 posted on 07/27/2004 3:30:10 PM PDT by jocon307
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