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The America Haters
08/20/2004 | KMB

Posted on 08/20/2004 3:48:36 PM PDT by KMB

There is a group of Americans who genuinely despise the United States. This group probably comprises 10-12% of the American people in total and about 20-25% of the left side of the political spectrum in America and these individuals truly, deeply, unabashedly and unconditionally and viscerally loathe the United States. Specifically, they believe that this country was based on slavery, genocide, segregation, robber-baron capitalism, exploitation of the worker class and a Puritan ethic and value system that they view as far more extreme than any particular brand or type of Islamic fundamentalism.

To that end, they believe that American institutions are inherently evil and that they promote racism, racial discrimination, sexism, sexual discrimination, homophobia, poverty in the US and around the world, inequality, social Darwinism, war, militarism and destruction of the environment. The institutions that these people – the fanatic America haters – so revile are economic, military and political and they focus their hatred of those institutions in that order.

With regard to American economic institutions, the America haters loathe the capitalist free-market system and they particularly despise American corporations and businesses. Specifically, they believe that corporations and businesses dominate the economic and social life of the republic and that they are not entitled to do so. They believe that businesses produce unsafe products and promote consumerism and social Darwinism. More on point, they believe that businesses essentially promote unnecessary and even dangerous products to an unsophisticated and unsuspecting public and that the consumerism that they promote forces individuals to live a debt-ridden life and work in jobs that they hate. The America-haters believe that these businesses have created an America in which the overwhelming majority of individuals live a slave-like existence one paycheck away from destitution with inadequate healthcare while a small minority gets rich.

They believe that executives and directors who run American corporations and the investor class and the managers of the financial markets who own and support American corporations are evil criminals. Specifically, the America haters believe that this elite group holds all real power in America and they favor a flat-out revolution against these people.

With regard to American military and political institutions (namely the political parties and the GOP in particular), the America haters believe that both are puppets of American corporations and businesses. Specifically, they believe that the political interests run the government on behalf of and to the benefit of corporations and that the military wages wars of aggression to increase profits of these corporations and to expand the influence of American corporations and the elite who run them over the rest of the world.

The America haters also believe that the United States is and has been the focus of all evil throughout the world for the past 200 years. To that end, these people can make and do make arguments that effectively blame the United States for the slave trade, the subjugation and plight of the people of sub-Saharan West Africa, World War I, the genocide in Armenia, the rise of Joseph Stalin, the Great Depression, the rise of Adolf Hitler, the rise of Japanese militarism, World War II, the Holocaust, the Cold War, the Israel/Palestine conflict, the arms race, the Vietnam War, the genocide in Cambodia, the rise of Islamic extremism, the rise of Saddam Hussein, the spread of AIDS and the development and creation of bin Laden’s terror network. Specifically, the America haters are able to draw a series of causative links between the actions of the United States government (which they believe is and always has been dominated by business interests) and each of the events listed above. In this sense, the America haters believe that each of these events is the fault and responsibility of the United States.

There are three major items about American history that the America haters particularly despise – the American Revolution, the war against Japan and the Cold War containment of the Soviet Union. The American Revolution is probably the event that they most abhor. They loathe America’s founding fathers and they thoroughly disdain what they did and what they stood for. Specifically, they believe that the Minute Men in the Militias and the men in George Washington’s Continental and the Colonial leaders were standing and fighting for a racist and evil cause and that there was little difference between these men and the current members of Al Qaeda. The America haters think that the Declaration of Independence was an extremist document and that the signatories were racists, hypocrites and criminals.

The America haters believe that the war against Japan was a vicious racist vendetta against an idealistic people trying to regain their national identity after having been corrupted by the United States. They believe that the US provoked this war and that the attack on Pearl Harbor was justified and that the American response which included unrestricted submarine warfare against commercial vessels and air bombardment of Japanese cities were the true war crimes. They believe that the attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were barbaric crimes against humanity and they refuse to acknowledge a link between those attacks and the end of the war.

The beliefs of the America haters with regard to the Cold War are a dichotomy in that they abhor the United States for having caused the collapse of the Soviet Union yet refuse to acknowledge that the United States won the Cold War. Specifically, the America haters believed that the United States was the aggressor in the Cold War and that the Soviets had the superior economic and political system. They also believe that the Soviets achieved military and strategic superiority but that their investment in the military caused internal problems which ultimately led to the Soviet Union’s collapse. These people bemoan and lament the collapse of the Soviet Union and they now speak of that former empire with a sense of nostalgia and idealism.

The America haters also oppose (usually with a high degree of ferocity) American foreign policy and national security policy on almost all major issues. Specifically, they opposed the Vietnam War, opposed the deployment of Pershing missiles in Western Europe, opposed Strategic Defense Initiative, opposed aid to the Nicaraguan Contra rebels in the 1980’s, opposed the Gulf War, opposed (secretly) the War in Afghanistan, opposed the invasion of Iraq and opposed the US support of Israel during the during the past three and a half years since the Palestinians launched Infintada.

For the America haters, it seems to be less an issue of ideology than psychology that they oppose the United States and support those who stand against the US. To that end, their favorite world leader is Fidel Castro. The best days in the lives of these people were in April 1975 when the US abandoned it’s embassy in Saigon and the South Vietnamese capital was overrun effectively ending the Vietnam War and in April 2000 when Elian Gonzales was returned to live in Cuba. The worst days in the lives of these people were in April 1990 when an anti-communist, pro-American party defeated the pro-communist, anti-American regime in free elections in Nicaragua and in December 2003 when Saddam Hussein was captured.

In recent years as the United States has asserted it’s military and political might, the alienation and disgruntlement of the America haters has grown exponentially and is now reaching a point of critical mass. No group of people in America has been as disaffected and alienated since the 1860’s as the America haters are today. They believe that the United States brought the attacks on 9/11 on itself and that the war being waged in response is illegal and they are desperate for American failure in this effort. These people so despise America that American success in Iraq and in the war on terror is maddening to them. They believe that the prisoner abuse at Abu Gharib and the detentions at Guantanamo Bay are worse than the atrocities committed at Auschwitz. The absence of any measure of logic or reason that an individual must have in order to hold such a belief is evidence of the fact that these people are beginning to lose their grip on reality as a result of their deep hatred of the US.

As stated above, this group probably comprises 10-12% of the American people (30 million people in total). This group is most likely divided into students and other young people (18-23) who are just general malcontents caught up in the whirlwind of events and another group of permanent hard-core America haters. The former group will snap out of it in time – only to be replaced by other youngsters in the future. The latter group (the Michael Moore types) is a mystery. Given the ferocity and passion surrounding their hatred of the United States, it’s difficult to understand how these people can even function in America today.

Mr. Madison foresaw the fact that these types of people and groups would arise in America and he wisely and correctly ensured that their rights would be protected in the first amendment. Had he failed to do so, the ranks and the passion of the America haters would be far greater. Despite this fact, I believe that the America haters may pose a threat to the republic in the future. These people do not hate the US any less than a hard core member of Al Qaeda. They truly believe that they live in tyranny and, as stated above, many in this group may be beginning to lose their grip on reality.

Can these facts be lost on the nation’s true enemies – on Al Qaeda and their sympathizers? I think not. In fact, I believe that Al Qaeda and other similar organizations are very much aware of the fact that these people are out there in such large numbers and that this might be the angle that the terrorist groups or organizations seek to exploit.

On September 20, 2001 George W. Bush announced to Congress that America and her allies would win the war on terror partially by splitting the terrorists and causing them to fight among themselves. What if this gets turned on America?

What if future terrorist attacks against the United States are initiated not by Arab Muslims schooled in Pakistan and trained in Afghanistan but instead by disgruntled students or professors or converted Muslim ex-convicts born and bred in our own backyard? Is this an implausible scenario or could the war on terror turn into the 2nd American Civil War?


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1 posted on 08/20/2004 3:48:36 PM PDT by KMB
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To: KMB

New around here I see.


2 posted on 08/20/2004 3:49:48 PM PDT by socal_parrot
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To: KMB

That's a lot of words!


3 posted on 08/20/2004 3:51:42 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: KMB

Vanity.


4 posted on 08/20/2004 3:53:19 PM PDT by 68skylark
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To: KMB; MeekOneGOP; King Prout; Conspiracy Guy; Old Sarge

Meow!


5 posted on 08/20/2004 3:53:39 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: KMB

Ahr ewe series?


6 posted on 08/20/2004 3:54:26 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought."-Pope JPII)
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To: KMB

Notwithstanding your newness on FR, I thought your piece as extremely thoughtful and well written.

The one quibble I have is the part about Japan - I don't recall seeing many diatribes from the left blasting the US for engaging and defeating Japan in WW2. Yeah, they moan about the atomic bombs, but I don't recall anything justifying Pearl Harbor.


7 posted on 08/20/2004 3:57:48 PM PDT by RandyRep
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To: big'ol_freeper; All

While I have your attention, Michelle Malkin, from this morning's Washington Journal, is being replayed on C-SPAN2. Just started.


8 posted on 08/20/2004 3:59:07 PM PDT by leadpenny
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Who cares if you are new?! I have lived in the Middle East and in Europe. I have traveled to over 20 different countries on 4 different continents and I constantly find myself wishing others would see the world before they slam America! Unfortunately our country will be a Europe within 10years due to growth of unchecked immigration. My point I wish to make deals with your statement that the "America Haters" believe our institutes promote racism, racial discrimination, sexism, sexual discrimination, homophobia and poverty. Wow, I cant possibly think of a more accurate definition of the society in which I lived in Jordan and in Saudi Arabia. I have friends from both of countries, and know many good people of the Islam faith, but modern Islam is a paranoid government-religion. I challenge any Western woman to share the experience of a good friend of mine by marrying an Arab man and living in his country with him. I have been witness to women being whipped, men being stoned, etc. It is not uncommon in the Middle East for a man to smoke, bribe, cheat on his wife, steal, hate, purchase pornography, practice homosexuality, etc. In fact, it is quite common. Do not the African-American muslims know that it was an Arab sheik in Zanzibar and his Swahili subjects from the coast that launched raiding parties into the wilds of East Africa and enslaved the natives, subjecting them to horrible torture and abuse? What ended the deplorable treatment and enslaving of the peoples of East Africa? A BRITISH blockade. Now the people speak the slavers language and convert to their religion, a part of their colorful past they just do not understand.
9 posted on 08/20/2004 4:49:35 PM PDT by EOD
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To: Slings and Arrows; KMB; 4mycountry; TheBigB; VRWCmember; Zavien Doombringer; jriemer; mhking; ...
Vanity, newbie, first post, no replies, no link. Troll or no Troll?

I report, you decide .....



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10 posted on 08/20/2004 4:49:46 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: MeekOneGOP

Hehe . . this is their first and only post.


11 posted on 08/20/2004 5:00:38 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (JOHN KERRY is as much like the WORKING MAN as WHOOPIE GOLDBERG is to GEORGE W. BUSH! - Vote BUSH!)
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To: MeekOneGOP; KMB; dennisw; SJackson; devolve; Geist Krieger
"What if future terrorist attacks against the United States are initiated not by Arab Muslims schooled in Pakistan and trained in Afghanistan but instead by disgruntled students or professors or converted Muslim ex-convicts born and bred in our own backyard? Is this an implausible scenario or could the war on terror turn into the 2nd American Civil War?"

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Not knowing who this person is or their agenda, it's hard to tell from just one post what's going on here.

But the part about the scenario using disgruntled students, professors or converted Muslim ex-convicts to stir strife among Americans is very plausible.

12 posted on 08/20/2004 5:06:26 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (JOHN KERRY is as much like the WORKING MAN as WHOOPIE GOLDBERG is to GEORGE W. BUSH! - Vote BUSH!)
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To: leadpenny
That's a lot of words!

 

1,744, to be exact.

 

13 posted on 08/20/2004 5:09:01 PM PDT by Fintan (I don't need to know what it looks like to know what it looks like.)
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To: KMB

I guess we'll have to kill them too. What do you suggest?


14 posted on 08/20/2004 5:10:45 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Conspiracy Guy, Secretary of Humor and Tomfoolery)
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To: KMB

Respond or be paved.


15 posted on 08/20/2004 5:16:30 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Conspiracy Guy, Secretary of Humor and Tomfoolery)
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To: KMB

I don't know where you get your numbers from, but I think you give a bad rap to the "young people", or students if you prefer. Lots of peacenik geezers out there, and as always, the "young people" are carrying the water.


16 posted on 08/20/2004 5:18:56 PM PDT by SJackson (We’ll cut the tongues of anybody who speaks badly about us-not accept gangsterism by Cowboys, Nasser)
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If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

Interesting post.

17 posted on 08/20/2004 5:19:56 PM PDT by SJackson (We’ll cut the tongues of anybody who speaks badly about us-not accept gangsterism by Cowboys, Nasser)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
I guess we'll have to kill them too. What do you suggest?

I think prison conversions is a danger, another unrecognized open border.

Disgruntled students or professors , a lot of noise, not much substance.

18 posted on 08/20/2004 5:24:12 PM PDT by SJackson (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good, Hillary Clinton)
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To: MeekOneGOP

Please add me to your list.
I find Viking Kitties quite amusing.
Thanks


19 posted on 08/20/2004 5:24:25 PM PDT by Ludicrous
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My pleasure. I've added you. Thanks. :^)

20 posted on 08/20/2004 5:33:48 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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