[Iron Eagle]

The silence in this presidential campaign on the silent invasion of the U.S. is frightening. Most Americans probably have no idea that the Supreme Court forces states to provide k-12 public education for illegal aliens.

[Iron Eagle]

the rest of the piece is here:

http://www.app.com/app/story/0,21625,1051289,00.html

[ClintonBeGone]

This will fail. Only congress has the power to make distinctions based on one's country of origin.

[Brilliant]

The security of our borders will only become an issue if Americans start sneaking into Mexico.

[pete anderson]

By Illegal Aliens do they mean school children who were born of illegal alien parents in the U.S. and are therefore citizens or do they mean children who were born outside the U.S. and are here illegally?

In any case we have two choices:

We can Refuse to educate Illegal Aliens and force them into welfare or crime as they grow up and produce more illiterate children.

We can invest a little money now to educate them and hopefully they will turn into productive tax paying American citizens in the future.

One thing is clear. not the Democrats or the Republicans have the intestinal fortitude to deport the illegal aliens but instead both parties propose Amnesty Programs to accept the illegals as American Citizens.

[bayourod]

I agree that the decision needs to be reversed. It should be left up to the states to decide if they want to limit education to students who can show legal status.

However I can see good policy reasons for providing free or reduced costs education for children who are going to be growing up in the community and being part of the local economy or part of the local criminal element.

That is, there are good policy reasons if you believe in taxpayer funded education, which I don't.

[uncitizen]

I don't expect they'd ever stop educating illegals here in CA, but if they could cut some of the the free school lunchs, special language programs, and other school programs specially designed for illegals it would begin to put a dent in CA's budget problems.

Four years ago around election time, my neighbor, (who is illegal but her children aren't) was invited to the school for a free steak dinner and discussion in which the school told the Spanish speaking parents what to do if they feel discriminated against, how to contact LaRasa, and of course how they are supposed to think about the various propositions and candidates on the ballot.

Two years ago they did the same thing, but my neighbor was disappointed that the dinner was pasta instead of steak.

[WhiteGuy]

"The silence in this presidential campaign on the silent invasion of the U.S. is frightening."


I guess both major party candidates believe that the activities of the other, 35 years ago is the most important issue facing voters today.

Pathetic.

[Guillermo]

There is silence because neither party wants to stop illegal immigration.

Dems and GOP'ers don't want to stop it, Business, both big and small don't want to stop it. Unions don't want to stop it, and Churches don't want to stop it.

There is no organized constituency opposed to Illegal Immigration, while there are several who are for it.

[ZULU]

There is NO WAY Breyer, Souter, Bader-Ginsberg, Kennedy, and O'Connor will EVER vote to deny those poor huddled masses of illegal invaders the "right" to be educated by our tax dollars.

Like the cowbird, they will continue to lay their eggs in our school systems, social support networks, and maternity hospitals.

[cvq3842]

Thanks for posting and opening a discussion on this!

As others have asked, I also see the immigration problem in general (and not necessarily just the Supreme Court case at issue) as having two parts.

I know much of the argument for educating children in the country illegally is that since they are here anyway, if we don't educate them they will only cost us more money (and cause us more trouble) later. That argument always irks me, as it accepts defeat as its premise. Seems like there's a whole number of issues where some just accept the problem itself as NEVER going away - they just accept it. "If we don't allow needle exchanges, then the junkies will get sick AND high, rather than just high." "If we stigmatize unwed motherhood, then we are hurting the self-esteem of all those unwed mothers and making their lives harder." Etc etc etc. Another way to look at it is that if the consequences of some action are unpleasant, YOU WILL DISCOURAGE THE ACTION IN THE FIRST PLACE!!! Again, I may not be expressing myself clearly or providing the best examples - there's a human desire to be compassionate to someone who finds themself in a bad position, but there's also a practical need to make sure we don't create rules that ENCOURAGE THE NEGATIVE BEHAVIOR! No, we don't want kids to starve, but even FDR said welfare programs have a "narcotic" effect. If you know someone will bail you out, then you're not as worried about the consequences of certain actions. That's human nature too.

Although I am as disgusted as anyone about illegal immigration (and the total failure of either major party to do much about it), from the immigrants' point of view I don't blame them for coming over and taking advantage of all we have to offer. THEY ARE ONLY RESPONDING TO THE INCENTIVES WE CREATE!!! Our government needs to do something, beofre it's too late (if it isn't already).We should open our borders to cherry-pick the best and the brightest, if we allow immigration at all. Certainly we shouldn't have people breaking and entering and draining our public resources. The MSM is afraid to even point to the drain of illegals on our health and social services. I'm not optimistic.

As for the children born in this country of parents here illegally, I believe the 14th Amendment to the Constitution states that anyone born here is a citizen. It was drafted as one of the post-Civil War amendments to address the status of former slaves, I believe. I think Pat Buchanan and/or some others have called it a fatal flaw in the Constitution. I suppose the government could allow the child to stay and deport the parents, but I'd bet a month's pay that rarely happens, if ever. (I wonder what other countries allow someone to come in, give birth to a child, and then allow that child all the benefits of the state's welfare, education and health systems. THAT'S A RECIPE FOR FISCAL DISASTER, AMONG OTHER THINGS!!! Why bother to work and pay taxes if it just goes to people who don't have to work? open that wallet, sucker!!!) Anyway, I haven't really thought through the consequences of an amendment because it will never, ever happen.

I haven't even mentioned the cultural effects of large-scale uncontrolled immigration. But I'm ranting right now, so I'll stop.

:)

[tahiti]

"...the silent invasion of the U.S."

Article I, Section , Clause 15

15. To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions:

All members of Congress should be impeached for not doing their constitutional duty.

[Toddsterpatriot]

This would be excellent news.

[raivyn]

Well, let us all hope that the supreme court can remove their heads from their arses long enough to do the right thing this time around.

I love how a ruling for one case translates into a broad band policy.

Somebody stop the judges please!

[hershey]

Absolutely right. Here's the Netherlands finally waking up to the danger of Muslims in their midst...not bothering to learn Dutch, with no desire to become Dutch in any way. Does this sound familiar? Watching Fox news...We're promising to help Iraqis rebuild Mosul. Why don't we simply replace the whole country with all the modern cons. They'll still complain.