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Kerry's BIGGEST Mistakes in the Debate
1 Oct 04 | xzins

Posted on 10/01/2004 6:10:21 AM PDT by xzins

In order of priority, Kerry's major mistakes and gaffes from last night. The first few clearly disqualify him from being president...ever...

1. Putting Nuclear Fuel in the hands of the Ayatollah of Iran. Kerry actually suggested this last night and it is mind-boggling. Iran is the major supporter of terrorism in the world. At a minimum, we are giving them material for a dirty bomb.

2. The major issue confronting America is proliferation of WMDs, to include nuclear, into the hands of Terrorists, but Kerry sees nuclear proliferation only as the major issue...without regard to the terrorists who killed 3000 on 9/11 or the nation in question. He doesn't know why the war is taking place. He puts Iceland in the same category as Al Qaeda.

3. Kerry requires a Global Test before we protect America. Pres. Bush caught this immediately and called it for the critical error in protecting America that it is.

4. Kerry denies a multi-lateral approach to N. Korea. He has previously said that Pres. Bush FAILED by not pursing a multi-lateral approach in Iraq. In Iraq, Pres. Bush has most of our major allies supporting us and providing soldiers. In N. Korea he has brought the China, Russia, Japan, and S. Korea into partnership to pressure N. Korea and Kerry sasy NO MULTI-LATERAL. This flip-flop is right on national TV and it goes unnoticed.

5. Kerry continued to demean the contribution of our allies by calling into question their sacrifice. He counted numbers without any regard for the size and other commitments of those other armies.

6. Kerry again flip-flopped on Iraq saying early in the debate that Saddam Hussein should be gone and simultaneously saying that the mission was a mistake.

7. Kerry continued to demean the mission in Iraq and in doing so he demeans the sacrifice of the trooops, because Kerry consistently questioned the mission itself.


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To: xzins
I could write my own little diatribe on my impressions of the debate last night, objectively pro and con for both candidates, but I have a question maybe someone can answer honestly.

What's was with Kerry's comment about guarding the oil ministry before the nuclear plants?

I wasn't aware that Iraq had any nuclear plants.

If so, that was a serious fabrication on the part of Kerry.

41 posted on 10/01/2004 6:30:51 AM PDT by Aliska
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To: xzins
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1232070/posts

Link to the Kerry Lie of saying that he has never said Bush Lied.

42 posted on 10/01/2004 6:31:12 AM PDT by Even Keel
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To: mattdono

I agree. I thought the "Both" statement was the "it" moment. All the talking heads keep saying there wasn't a devasting soundbite for either candidate. I think maybe some people missed it since Lehrer was talking at the same time.

I think the three strongest points for the GOP to emphasize are the "both" comment (sums Kerry up), the "global test", and Irani sanctions (W's response was too funny!).


43 posted on 10/01/2004 6:31:46 AM PDT by Hoodlum91
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To: NRA1995

The whole friggin Senate killed Kyoto in an overwhelming manner. Even if Clin-toon wanted to sign it he couldn't because it would not have been ratified. It would have been wasted time...


44 posted on 10/01/2004 6:32:31 AM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: mattdono

Bush biggest mistake was squandered opportunities to knock out Kerry. When Kerry harped about not having real allies in Iraq why didn't Bush say "just because France and Germany didn't join us doesn't mean there were no allies - we have 30 countries... This is the difference between following and leading. We lead. The Commander-in-Chief of the U.S. doesn't have to get a permission slip from France to defend itself ..."


45 posted on 10/01/2004 6:32:32 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: Dog Gone
"I'm frankly amazed at the amount of criticism being launched at Bush from conservatives."

Same here, fawning over how well some can lie, distort, and deceive is strange to say the least.

I am proud that President Bush showed me that he sized up the quagmire of lies out of JFKerry, and did not take the bait. JFKerry is an eminent threat to the security of this nation.
46 posted on 10/01/2004 6:33:50 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: mwl1
Kerry said, "we didn't need that tax cut." Exact quote, devastating sound bite.

Yep, too bad Bush didn't come back with something like, "here in a debate on foreign policy my opponent brings up taxes. My fellow Americans this man is chomping at the bit to raise your taxes!

Now for my question, did anyone else hear that the rules are such that neither campaign can use video clips from the debate in campaign ads? Does this include 527s? Does anyone know where to get a copy of the rules?

47 posted on 10/01/2004 6:34:40 AM PDT by Joe Miner
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To: xzins

Methinks this debate might come back to bite Kerry in the a$$ once the american public have time to digest all of the BS that came spewing out of his mouth.


48 posted on 10/01/2004 6:34:55 AM PDT by BobinIL
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To: Hoodlum91

I agree with you. I think the press overlooked several major Kerry self-inflicted bunker busters . . . the damage may not be fully evident at first, but he hit himself hard and deep . . .

The Global Test.

Both.

Certainty can get you in trouble.

We didn't need that tax cut.


49 posted on 10/01/2004 6:35:16 AM PDT by LikeLight (__________________________)
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To: Aliska
KERRY: Thank you, Jim.

My message to the troops is also: Thank you for what they're doing, but it's also help is on the way. I believe those troops deserve better than what they are getting today.

You know, it's interesting. When I was in a rope line just the other day, coming out here from Wisconsin, a couple of young returnees were in the line, one active duty, one from the Guard. And they both looked at me and said: We need you. You've got to help us over there.

Now I believe there's a better way to do this. You know, the president's father did not go into Iraq, into Baghdad, beyond Basra. And the reason he didn't is, he said -- he wrote in his book -- because there was no viable exit strategy. And he said our troops would be occupiers in a bitterly hostile land.

That's exactly where we find ourselves today. There's a sense of American occupation. The only building that was guarded when the troops when into Baghdad was the oil ministry. We didn't guard the nuclear facilities.

We didn't guard the foreign office, where you might have found information about weapons of mass destruction. We didn't guard the borders.

Almost every step of the way, our troops have been left on these extraordinarily difficult missions. I know what it's like to go out on one of those missions when you don't know what's around the corner.

And I believe our troops need other allies helping. I'm going to hold that summit. I will bring fresh credibility, a new start, and we will get the job done right.

50 posted on 10/01/2004 6:35:19 AM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: Aliska

US special forces were specifically tasked to take control of all oil production/capacity areas at the beginning of the war. This was to prevent their destruction and their preservation for reconstruction.

So, don't tell me there wasn't a plan for reconstruction from the very beginning. And Kerry just pointed it out.

Also, why did an oil rich nation like Iraq need nuclear facilities for electrical power? What's wrong with oil burning electrical plants.


51 posted on 10/01/2004 6:36:10 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
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To: TC Rider

He used some sloppy language but what he clearly meant was military casualties and that we are shouldering almost all of the military casualties which is correct.


52 posted on 10/01/2004 6:37:09 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: BobinIL

I agree.

Some smart guy like Steyn needs to write a piece called "After 24 hours of reflection on what Kerry said"

Steyn would be great


53 posted on 10/01/2004 6:37:46 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
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To: xzins
Another thing Kerry did was second guess the military leadership...

In Vietnam (before my day) I have heard that the President at the time was dictating tactics and all the red/blue zones to the troops in a political fashion.

When he said "he outsourced the capture of bin Laden"...thats exactly what he did. For a number of reasons which can be a whole new topic of discussion...

54 posted on 10/01/2004 6:39:06 AM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: xzins
5. Kerry continued to demean the contribution of our allies by calling into question their sacrifice. He counted numbers without any regard for the size and other commitments of those other armies.

When Kerry said that some countries only contributed 'less than 100 troops to the war' like they were nothing....I was floored. He dismissed these '100''s of soldiers like they were useless dirt....he showed outright contempt for them in front of the world. How can anyone even consider to vote for this traitor.

55 posted on 10/01/2004 6:39:10 AM PDT by benice (Kerry can have 3 points of view in one sentence...from both sides of his mouth and his a$$.)
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To: plain talk

How many military casualties has our ally, the Iraqi National Guard, had to endure?


56 posted on 10/01/2004 6:39:20 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
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To: xzins
Also, why did an oil rich nation like Iraq need nuclear facilities for electrical power?

So they did have them? I don't remember ever reading that they did. Israel took out Iran's nuclear facility.

57 posted on 10/01/2004 6:41:13 AM PDT by Aliska
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To: xzins

I'm pretty sure the Israeli Air Force eliminated any nuclear power plants Iraq had a long time ago . . . the nuclear facilities Kerry was talking about must have been the Iraqi WMD facilities . . . but wait, I thought the WMD's didn't exist . . . makes you wonder, what Iraqi nuke facilities WAS Kerry talking about?


58 posted on 10/01/2004 6:41:24 AM PDT by LikeLight (__________________________)
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To: benice

Britain's 8.5 thousand troops is about half a division...maybe they call it a combat regiment.

I'll bet it's a goodly piece of their overall ground force. Britain always had put more investment into naval and marine forces EXCEPT during times of ongoing land warfare.


59 posted on 10/01/2004 6:42:41 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
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To: plain talk

We conservative need to stop carping. Why should Bush have to look negative when we and ROve caN go after Kerry's many Gaffes and mistakes?


Bush won on the substance and we need to chip away!

'both' happened fast , was that related to Iraq.


60 posted on 10/01/2004 6:43:36 AM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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