Posted on 11/03/2004 2:51:49 PM PST by BallparkBoys
Ok,
First off, sorry for the Vanity. And this is my first ever new thread. I would be interested in your opinions on this.
Nominating Rudy Guliani in '08 would be almost certain failure for the GOP. Tuesday's election screamed few things to me: CONSERVATISM!!! MORAL VALUES, and ANTI GAY-MARRIAGE. The voting block that delivered the vote most consistently for W was Evangelical Christians. Fully 25% of all Ohio voters put themselves in that category, and they voted 3-1 for Bush. Without that block, Bush loses the election. Evangelicals were driven to the polls by 1. a man of character, 2. the chances for some decent Supreme Court Justices, and 3. the referendums on gay marriage. Having the gay marriage issue on the ballot in Ohio probably won the election for W.
1. People can see that Bush is more a man of his word than Kerry is. He says things that he believes rather things that people want to hear. Kerry is just the opposite.
2. With the weak-kneed RINO's in the Senate, its no telling who we can get in there as judges, but it SHOULD be better than what Kerry would have given us.
3. Bans on gay marriage have ALWAYS gone 60% + (dont know the final results in Oregon) in EVERY state its been voted on. There is WIDESPREAD support for bans even in the most liberal states.
Ok, so can we agree that the electorate showed a swing to the right and did so emphatically. They voted in new Rep Senators, House members and reelected our Conservative President. So the question is: WHY GO BACK TO THE LEFT WHEN THE PEOPLE TELL YOU TO GO RIGHT???
Rudy, while a good executive and a fine politician is PRO ABORTION, PRO GAY MARRIAGE, and cheated on his wife. In 1992 GHW Bush pissed off his base with his tax issue and the conservatives stayed home. BUSH LOST! In 2000, W's drunk driving unfortunately (and wrongly in my opinion) drove the Christian conservatives to stay home, thus losing the popular vote and creating Florida's day in the spotlight. In 2004, Bush runs on a -lower tax, faith based initative, Pro life, pro gay marriage ban, man of virtue and faith- platform and wins by 3.5 MILLION votes.
Why would we want to turn back to the Rockefeller-Republican days of the 70's???
Govern and run on a platform of tax reform, tort reform, SOLID judges, PRO LIFE, PRO GAY MARRIAGE BAN, and watch the people come out in droves. When Hillary tacks to the center, we dont need to follow!!!
Your comments are welcome
The battle for the 2008 GOP standard bearer began yesterday. That abortion-loving gun-grabber needs to be taken down SEVERAL notches.
I never vote for liberals. I will never vote for Rudy.
I will never vote for such a ticket. Never, no matter who is running against them. Never.
And any freepers who don't like it if it comes to pass can kiss my kiester.
You may not like it, but it's true, nonetheless.
Well, all of the pundits were predicting battle for the future of the GOP following this election. I suppose you guys on the moderate/liberal end of the party will be promoting guys like Rudy, while conservatives will be pushing guys like Sanford and Owens. Should be interesting seeing this play out.
All of the pundits predicted a battle for the future of the GOP following this past election. I'm sure the moderate/liberal wing of the party will be heavily promoting Rudy. I'll be with the conservatives in pushing guys like Owens and Sanford. Should be interesting watching this play out.
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