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Truth of WW2 is slowly coming out!
Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler ^ | Jan 11, 2005 | By Antony C. Sutton

Posted on 01/11/2005 10:56:10 AM PST by patriot_wes

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To: patriot_wes

Of course Wall St. financiers backed Germany during the rise of Hitler.

1. Hitler came to power largely as a counterbalance to the mass murderer Stalin and his public property confiscator the Soviet communist party.

2. It was not accepted that Hitler would himself turn out to be a mass murderer.

3. Many in New York and Pennsylvania of German descent were blindedly in support of anything that appeared to strengthen Germany against the Soviet menace.

Gee, isn't hindsight great?

And to think the USA had the scruples to defeat both Fascism and communism in the last century!

And people here in the Puget Sound once thought of Ted Bundy as a nice handsome young man, because well ... he certainedly appeared to be such.

I also owned Enron stock in the year 2002. I enable and subsidized that icon of evil Ken Lay!!!!!!! Sue me dammit! Stop me before I buy stock in MSO!!!!!


81 posted on 01/11/2005 11:57:09 AM PST by Hostage
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To: woofie

Hitler never looked or sounded like ANY other world leader.
He sounded like a maniac for almost 15 yrs before he rose to power. Only the willfully oblivious would have mistaken him for a responsible leader.

But when the choice was between siding with him or siding with Stalin there was no right choice.


82 posted on 01/11/2005 11:59:09 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: winodog

Our long zoological nightmare is over.
83 posted on 01/11/2005 12:00:40 PM PST by Borges
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Back in the thirties when radio and newsreels came into play. Leaders spoke a certain way, and used over-exaggerated theatrics when they spoke. Look at a newsreel of say, Huey Long speaking back in the early 30s. Not much difference in the delivery from Hitler. It was a different time back then.


84 posted on 01/11/2005 12:02:12 PM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: ScottM1968

Nor was the SS "street thugs" that was the SA. About 1/3 of the SS were lawyers. And it is not mentioned that the subsidiaries of US firms were German corporations not likely to ask permission from a US parent to aid Adolf.


85 posted on 01/11/2005 12:13:24 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: AppyPappy

Dunno a percentage. Just some names like Rosa Luxumberg - enough so that the threat of "Jewish Bolshevism" was credible to an ordinary German.


86 posted on 01/11/2005 12:16:15 PM PST by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: AppyPappy

And we did steal their land while doing our fair share of the pillaging and murdering. Hitler was used by satan in his battle to keep God from fulfilling his word. You dont get much more vile and evil then hitler.

Nonetheless we were brutal in the methods we used and we almost wiped out a entire continent of native people. Ex-texan makes a good point. We certainly could not have done what we did if we did it in the mid 1900's instead of 1700 and 1800.


87 posted on 01/11/2005 12:17:30 PM PST by winodog (I am gonna stop calling them liberals. They are humanists. Liberal is actually a good word)
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To: Little Ray
Dunno a percentage.

But you know some names that sounds Jewish. Brilliant. It sounds like you are guessing.

88 posted on 01/11/2005 12:18:37 PM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: winodog

The Indians were wiping each other out when we got here. They attacked us as much as we attacked them. They weren't exactly sitting around singing camp songs and making peace beads when we landed.

The Indians were not innocent little deer nibbling grass in the meadow. They fought the war and they lost the war. We didn't just arbitrarily wipe them out.


89 posted on 01/11/2005 12:21:01 PM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Nonstatist

There were Jewish fascists (or, at least, anti-communists)! Some rich, patriotic German Jews contributed to the Nazis before their anti-Semitism came to the fore. They were German patriots and strongly supported the nationalist part of the Nazi platform.

Likewise it was a Jewish financier that financed Bismarck's drive for German unification.


90 posted on 01/11/2005 12:22:33 PM PST by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: dfwgator

Huey Long was not your typical politician either. He used radio before almost any others and was more of a demogogue than the rest. Hitler was closer to Huey than other politicians in style and awareness of radio's potential. Nor were there any other orators as violent in their language and motions as Hitler not even Huey.

Read descriptions of Hitler's speeches. He would walk to a stage in a subdued, mild manner and begin speaking almost sniffing the crowd's attitude. Once that was established people described the change which took over him as almost supernatural as though he was being possessed by some demonic spirit. He would seize the crowd emotionally so much so that men cried and women fainted. Indeed, Hitler was an unusual man.


91 posted on 01/11/2005 12:30:02 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: LexBaird

The Orbital Mind Control Lasers change the South American Nazis' alignment to Liberal, giving the Triliberal Commission, aided by the Phone Company and the Federal Reserve, a +4 on attacks to control or neutralize. If only it weren't already directly controlled by the Gnomes of Zurich, they wouldn't even have to spend a megabuck for a good roll!


92 posted on 01/11/2005 12:31:39 PM PST by thoughtomator (Rooting for a Jets-Vikings Superbowl!)
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To: Alberta's Child

A great many people, including the large majority of German Jews, could not really believe that Hitler would do what he said he was going to do.

When German Jews largely believed he was posturing for his public, you are remarkably harsh to expect Americans to know that he wasn't kidding.


93 posted on 01/11/2005 12:34:54 PM PST by Restorer
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To: patriot_wes

More on Antony C. Sutton (Tinfoil addicts should note the last item, which has a bearing on our present President):

ANTONY C. SUTTON was born in London in 1925 and educated at the universities of London, Gottingen, and California. A citizen of the United States since 1962, he was a Research Fellow at the Hoover Institution for War, Revolution and Peace at Stanford, California from 1968 to 1973, where he produced the monumental three-volume study, Western Technology and Soviet Economic Development.
In 1974, Professor Sutton completed National Suicide: Military Aid to the Soviet Union, a best-selling study of Western, primarily American, technological and financial assistance to the U.S.S.R. Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler is his fourth book exposing the role of American corporate insiders in financing international socialism. The two other books in this series are Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution and Wall Street and FDR.
Professor Sutton has contributed articles to Human Events, The Review of the News, Triumph, Ordnance, National Review, and many other journals. He is currently working on a two-part study of the Federal Reserve System and the manipulation of the U.S. economic system. Married and the father of two daughters, he lived in California.

OTHER BOOKS BY ANTHONY C. SUTTON

Western Technology and Soviet Economic Development, 1917-1930.
Western Technology and Soviet Economic Development, 1930-1945
Western Technology and Soviet Economic Development, 1945-1965.
National Suicide: Military Aid to the Soviet Union.
Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution
Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler
Wall Street and FDR.
The War on Gold
How the Order Controls Education. (Yale University's Skull and Bones unmasked). Yale is the evil twin versus Harvard which is the good university!!


94 posted on 01/11/2005 12:40:45 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Alberta's Child

"Corporate ties between major U.S. corporations and German subsidiaries and even the Nazi government are one thing, but there is also some compelling evidence that these connections played a major role in how the U.S. military carried out the war effort."
I have no doubt what your post reply said in full is accurate.
Your example of the plant in Cologne not being bombed simply illustriates perhaps one of many examples of how corporations' influenced how the war was conducted.


95 posted on 01/11/2005 12:47:22 PM PST by Marine_Uncle
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To: justshutupandtakeit

"Once that was established people described the change which took over him as almost supernatural as though he was being possessed by some demonic spirit. He would seize the crowd emotionally so much so that men cried and women fainted. Indeed, Hitler was an unusual man."

Funny, sounds kinda like Elvis to me....


96 posted on 01/11/2005 12:47:29 PM PST by Kommodor (Is it just me or has the Fourth Estate become the Fifth Column?)
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To: Kommodor

Well Elvis was an extraordinarily handsome man while der Fuehrer was as plain as a dish rag though both had striking eyes. But the world suffered because he never learned to sing and shake his pelvis.

He would have preferred Judy Garland to Elvis too.


97 posted on 01/11/2005 1:01:31 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Peach
Think what you will........ALL I know is due to the grace of GOD.

And all that I do is in his honor.

I will not go into personal issues...but I come from a whole family of entrepenuers.

I make money in order to do the works needed...I do not love money...as some of the very wealthy do.

And some of the very wealthy love money enough to do very evil things.

For it is written...the LOVE of money is the root of all EVIL.

Money itself is not evil....it can be used for Godly purposes.

98 posted on 01/11/2005 1:20:31 PM PST by Radioactive
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To: Radioactive

Well, okay, then.

You sound a little more hung up on money than I care for, and I'd still like to see any links anyone has from a legitimate source that we entered WWII for money.


99 posted on 01/11/2005 1:21:38 PM PST by Peach (The Cl intons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: MineralMan

You are just being lazy....so lets end this right here....lazy man! ;{


100 posted on 01/11/2005 1:21:38 PM PST by Radioactive
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