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NEW INFO: Jersey City Christians Slain - For Evangelizing
WMCA - New York ^ | 01.22.2005

Posted on 01/21/2005 9:47:53 AM PST by KMC1

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WE HAVE SEEN THE ENEMY AND HE IS US: How many times it would it take a committed Christian family getting their throats sliced before Christians in a diverse middle eastern community in America would grow silent in sharing their faith with their Muslim brothers?

Charles Johnson at LittleGreenFootballs has the latest on the slain New Jersey family. And it appears that they had been influential in helping "convert Muslims to Christianity" as LGF put it.

It also needs to be noted that the neighborhood where these slayings took place happens also to be the center of the Islamic operations of Sheik Abdul Rahman - the perp in the first World Trade Center bombings.

My sources in the Jersey City neighborhood confirm the report identified on LGF. Rahman's followers who number in the thousands (not hundreds) in this area have grown increasingly aggressive in dealing with the Coptic community.

The warning that LGF cites is in effect and is being feared by many in the area.

The nature of the warning? The murders send a signal from the Muslims to the Copts: we are going to behave here the same way we behaved in Egypt, and the First Amendment and American law enforcement will not protect you. Don't expect America to keep you safe from us. The oppression and harassment you thought you had left behind in Egypt has now come to you.

So how many families would have to die in order for the terrorists to have a psychological hold on a city? I fear we may have already answered that question...

Additional Background stuff...JihadWatch...

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How many times it would it take a committed Christian family getting their throats sliced before Christians in a diverse middle eastern community in America would grow silent in sharing their faith with their Muslim brothers?

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21 posted on 01/21/2005 12:03:11 PM PST by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Any word yet on the beheading the following day (in the same state), or is the "suicide" story still holding up?

If you're referring to Hazlet, this actually was a suicide. I don't live too far from there, and my brother in law (a Gulf 1Vet) is the editor/publisher of a local newspaper in the area. If there was anything being covered up he would know. It was a very bizarre suicide.

22 posted on 01/21/2005 12:13:19 PM PST by Focault's Pendulum (Aww!! Crap!!! My tagline just illegally emigrated south! And it doesn't have any medical coverage)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Do you happen to have a link for the second story? I hadn't heard anything about it and would like to get caught up.


23 posted on 01/21/2005 12:15:08 PM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: KMC1
NEW INFO: Jersey City Christians Slain - For Evangelizing

well, that's just scriptural...sorry I can't give it off the top of my head, but I think
it was Peter that said in one of his epistles that followers of Christ shouldn't
be shocked when they are persecuted.

For me the interesting comparison is this:
Radical Islamics: willing to blow up self and innocent men, women and children to
preserve propery rights to women...

Christians: willing to die for speaking out for the rights and dignity of
men, women and children.
Even the ones most folks would consider worthy of destitution and death.
AND even ill-defined tissue masses (fetuses; humans in the making)
24 posted on 01/21/2005 12:20:08 PM PST by VOA
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To: EdReform; Thinkin' Gal; mrflashrifle; dennisw; SJackson; MeekOneGOP; TrueBeliever9; ...
(This map was publised in 2002 and I have been told that more Mosque's have sprung up across the US since. I am trying to get an updated map).

"This is an amazing book. Brilliantly argued and meticulously documented, this book contains a devastating expose of the murderous deceit behind contemporary apologists for militant Islam--in the media, political arena, academia and "mainstream" radical Islamic groups. Read this book to learn why Islamic extremism is dangerously entrenched within the institutional Islamic leadership in Saudi Arabia and the United States."
-- Steven Emerson, author of American Jihad: The Terrorists Living Among Us and Director of the Investigative Project



25 posted on 01/21/2005 12:27:06 PM PST by SheLion (God bless our military members and keep them safe.)
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To: Bikers4Bush
Decapitated man found behind Hazlet theater
26 posted on 01/21/2005 12:43:20 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo

Excellent, thanks.


27 posted on 01/21/2005 12:45:59 PM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: Happy2BMe
THANKS FOR THE PING!

28 posted on 01/21/2005 12:54:54 PM PST by Smartass (BUSH & CHENEY to 2008 Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: Focault's Pendulum; Bikers4Bush
It was a very bizarre suicide.

To put it mildly. Thanks for the inside scoop.

29 posted on 01/21/2005 12:56:18 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: SheLion

Thanks for the ping SheLion.

>> we are going to behave here the same way we behaved in Egypt, and the First Amendment and American law enforcement will not protect you. Don't expect America to keep you safe from us. The oppression and harassment you thought you had left behind in Egypt has now come to you. <<

I have the necesssary tools for dealing with such folk.

This is America and this will not stand.


30 posted on 01/21/2005 12:57:01 PM PST by appalachian_dweller (Threat Level: HIGH - Basic list of survival gear @ my FR Homepage)
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To: Mr. Mojo
To put it mildly. Thanks for the inside scoop.

How many people would think about tying their head to a lampost. Some cops I know are refferring to it as an Isadora Duncan....gone bad.

31 posted on 01/21/2005 1:03:05 PM PST by Focault's Pendulum (Aww!! Crap!!! My tagline just illegally emigrated south! And it doesn't have any medical coverage)
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To: Ciexyz

So far, that's the latest *official BS* article.


32 posted on 01/21/2005 2:07:27 PM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (• veni • vidi • vino • visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: SheLion

That map (Post 25) is positively chilling.


33 posted on 01/21/2005 4:56:15 PM PST by Ciexyz (I use the term Blue Cities, not Blue States. PA is red except for Philly, Pgh & Erie)
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To: KMC1

BTTT


34 posted on 01/21/2005 5:04:42 PM PST by spodefly (Yo, homey ... Is that my briefcase?)
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Bump!


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35 posted on 01/21/2005 6:20:37 PM PST by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: EdReform; Thinkin' Gal; mrflashrifle; dennisw; SJackson; MeekOneGOP; TrueBeliever9; ...
(This map was publised in 2002 and I have been told that more Mosque's have sprung up across the US since. I am trying to get an updated map).

"This is an amazing book. Brilliantly argued and meticulously documented, this book contains a devastating expose of the murderous deceit behind contemporary apologists for militant Islam--in the media, political arena, academia and "mainstream" radical Islamic groups. Read this book to learn why Islamic extremism is dangerously entrenched within the institutional Islamic leadership in Saudi Arabia and the United States."
-- Steven Emerson, author of American Jihad: The Terrorists Living Among Us and Director of the Investigative Project



36 posted on 01/21/2005 6:31:31 PM PST by SheLion (God bless our military members and keep them safe.)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Any word yet on the beheading the following day (in the same state), or is the "suicide" story still holding up?

Pretty good, eh?  Tying a rope around a lamppost and then around one's neck, get behind the driver's seat and hit the gas pedal.

Quite the way to die......................sure would like to know if he died by choice...................or not.

37 posted on 01/21/2005 6:35:26 PM PST by SheLion (God bless our military members and keep them safe.)
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To: Salem

Thank you for the ping. A while back, we had a guest speaker at our church....he was a former muslim, born in the middle east etcc. After hearing what he had to say, this does not surprise me at all.


38 posted on 01/21/2005 6:42:34 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: Mr. Mojo

how does one commit suicide by beheading themselves?
inquiring minds and all?


39 posted on 01/21/2005 6:46:46 PM PST by eccl1212
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To: SheLion
Thanks for the ping, SL!

With his head gone, I can understand how the police made the mistake.
This couldn't have been a man. This was a giraffe.

40 posted on 01/21/2005 6:50:50 PM PST by TexasCowboy (Texan by birth, citizen of Jesusland by the Grace of God)
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