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IN VIRGINIA: DOUBLE JEOPARDY FOR SPEEDING
http://www.freemarketnews.com ^ | Jan 25, 2005 | by staff reports

Posted on 01/25/2005 6:32:30 AM PST by FreeMarket1

IN VIRGINIA: DOUBLE JEOPARDY FOR SPEEDING

Jan 25, 2005 - FreeMarketNews.com

by staff reports

FreeMarketNews.Com, Jan. 25, 2005 - A bill has been introduced into the Virginia House of Delegates that would place an additional penalty on motorists who have received speeding tickets. The bill, cosponsored by two Republicans, Thomas Rust and David Albo, would add so-called “abuser fees.”

A driver convicted of exceeding the speed limit by 30 mph in Virginia, would normally pay a fine of $100 with $50 in court costs, and have their license suspended for 90 days. The new plan would levy an additional $750 in fines on the hapless motorist.

Interestingly Albo, in addition to being a legislator, is also a traffic ticket attorney. The National Motorist Association comments on what would seem to be a clear-cut case of self interest, as opposed to public safety, in regard to his efforts. They state:

“If this measure passes, it will certainly be a win-win for him. When it comes time for re-election, he can claim that he stood.........Full Article www.FreeMarketNews.com


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To: FreeMarket1

Two years ago in Indiana, I got two tickets in a year. I paid the tickets. A year later I got a letter in the mail saying that even though I was well under my points limit, I would lose my liscense if I didn't send them 80 bucks and take a defensive driving course. They can do anything they want to you. No one will ever stand up to them.


21 posted on 01/25/2005 6:56:21 AM PST by mysterio
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To: Mad Mammoth
The most convincing evidence about the idiocy of speeding tickets came from the state licensing board for the profession in which I work. Every time I renew my professional license, I have to sign an affidavit declaring that I have not been convicted of a crime, and listing any and all motor vehicle violations I've been cited for in the period since my last renewal. Parking tickets and speeding violations are specifically exempted from the list of motor vehicle violations I have to disclose.

In other words, my state professional licensing board knows full well that speeding tickets do not reflect in any way on a person's ability to act in a law-abiding manner -- these tickets are nothing more than revenue stream for local governments.

22 posted on 01/25/2005 6:56:46 AM PST by Alberta's Child (It could be worse . . . I could've missed my calling.)
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To: Alberta's Child

We lost a family member in an MVA caused by a person exceeding the speed limit by 30 mph. Frankly, if they want to tax speeders into oblivion, fine by me.


23 posted on 01/25/2005 6:59:00 AM PST by mewzilla (Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
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To: bmwcyle
Turning the police into rolling tax collectors.

Done and done.

24 posted on 01/25/2005 6:59:35 AM PST by eno_ (Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
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To: Mad Mammoth
"will not only detect police radar, but..."

Back in the 80's there were radar jammers sold to and used by truckers. In one mode, the device would jam the out going signal. In another mode the driver could dial in a preset speed that the LEO's radar would read back. The later require one to constantly monitor the system so you would not be nailed for 55 in a 45 mph zone.

Scale Houses at state borders begain using their own dection equipment to seek out vehicles with these jammers and radar detectors. I think that Federal Law now outlaws any radar detecting device in commercial vehicles.

25 posted on 01/25/2005 7:00:03 AM PST by Deaf Smith
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To: mewzilla

Better driver training, making the left lane a passing lane, get illegals off the road, enforce car inspection laws better, get driver training back in schools, increase jail time, but taxing won't do anything.


26 posted on 01/25/2005 7:02:55 AM PST by bmwcyle (Washington DC RINO Hunting Guide)
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To: goldstategop
And lawyer revenue too! The increase in the penalty will definitly put a hell of a lot more people in court that would otherwise just pay the fine... The troopers there in the past have always been pretty standup guys. If you got bagged for going really fast, but traffic was nil, car well kept and you weren't a dick, they'd write the ticket below the 20 mph over-limit that put you into the 6 point reckless zone. They enjoyed the opportunity to "maish it to the floor and let 'er eat" in the cruiser...
27 posted on 01/25/2005 7:04:36 AM PST by Axenolith (This space for rent...)
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To: bmwcyle

Hitting speeders in the pocketbook? Sure, it'll work. They obviously don't give a tinker's dam about the law and/or their fellow drivers, but about their pocketbooks? You bet they do. Hit them in the wallet. Higher fines/taxes/insurance premiums/deductibles. All fine by me.


28 posted on 01/25/2005 7:07:56 AM PST by mewzilla (Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
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To: FreeMarket1

No doubt the state has already spent the tax increase they just rammed through last year and has already decided they need more money, which is exactly what I expected would happen.


29 posted on 01/25/2005 7:08:16 AM PST by jpl ("Liberals love America like O.J. loved Nicole." - Ann Coulter)
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To: mewzilla

I hate to tell you but you are wrong.


30 posted on 01/25/2005 7:08:44 AM PST by bmwcyle (Washington DC RINO Hunting Guide)
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To: FreeMarket1

They don't call it "The communist state" for nothing.

It all began with confiscation of CB radios and radar detectors.


31 posted on 01/25/2005 7:11:38 AM PST by bert (Peace is halftime....)
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To: GrandEagle

Do that.....I got a speeding ticket on I81 and had to drive 350 miles to Lexington to appear in court because I was clocked over 80....and on my birthday....very sour.....
I had no problem paying the ticket...by mail....I was told that if I didn't appear in court they could suspend my liscense and tell Jersey and then I'd get my liscense suspended in my home state.....how ridiculous is that!!!!!!!

Beware!!!!


32 posted on 01/25/2005 7:11:56 AM PST by geege
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To: Zavien Doombringer

ping, fyi.


33 posted on 01/25/2005 7:13:27 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (GO PATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: bmwcyle

Not according to my insurance company :)


34 posted on 01/25/2005 7:14:16 AM PST by mewzilla (Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
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To: Mad Mammoth
Yes, it's true. The overwhelming majority of drivers are lawabiding and courteous. Then there are the slimeballs who view a speed limit as a "minimum". They frequently practice "dive bombing" folks in slower lanes ~ guess it gives them some sort of thrill.

That's why we have the SECOND AMENDMENT, and in Virginia folks get to "pack and ride".

Please be polite around here. It creates horrible traffic jams when they have to stop to clean up dead bodies.

35 posted on 01/25/2005 7:16:06 AM PST by muawiyah (Egypt didn't invent civilization time)
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To: goldstategop
"What's my name?" "Denny Crane."

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36 posted on 01/25/2005 7:17:50 AM PST by rockrr (Revote or Revolt! It's up to you Washington!)
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To: rockrr

Sorry - couldn't resist ;'}


37 posted on 01/25/2005 7:18:30 AM PST by rockrr (Revote or Revolt! It's up to you Washington!)
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To: bmwcyle
In the "Real Northern Virginia", to distinguish it from that more distant location where the guy said you can actually speed (ha, ha, ha, ha, ROTFLMAO), the Asian woman in the left lane is probably going to exit the Interstate ON THE LEFT. Going through Fairfax County, there are about as many LEFT EXITS as there are RIGHT EXITS.

Outside agitators sometimes create traffic jams because they don't recognize that the signs saying "LEFT EXIT" really do mean "LEFT EXIT", so they try tailgating and running down cars on the left whose drivers are lawfully trying to get off the highway.

It's time for a law against OUTSIDE AGITATORS in this country. Send 'em back where they came from!

38 posted on 01/25/2005 7:20:11 AM PST by muawiyah (Egypt didn't invent civilization time)
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To: FreeMarket1

Free Market News shouldn't toss around terms like "Double Jeopardy" when it's obvious they don't know what they mean.


39 posted on 01/25/2005 7:21:15 AM PST by You Dirty Rats (Mindless BushBot)
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To: bmwcyle
FWIW, here's a link to check out, with some info on fines and speeding :) The math was interesting.
40 posted on 01/25/2005 7:24:33 AM PST by mewzilla (Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
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