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1 posted on 08/13/2005 3:11:27 PM PDT by ConservativeVoice
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Lots of possible imprisonment talk. Where are we putting all the facilities? Who is going to man them? The internees won't be working, so they'll have to be fed, clothed washed etc.. Who is going to pay for them? Looks like many Camp Gitmos to us but to the rest of the world and the MSM they will be called Camp Auschwitzes.


2 posted on 08/13/2005 3:31:49 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (3 more months of Hurricanes and RV free roads.)
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You might ask why I, as a Jew, suggest converting them to Christianity? Because I believe there are enough good Christians in this world to hold the bastards down while they learn to behave.

I stopped reading at this point, because I just have to say..."I love this guy!"

Now I'm gonna go back and read the rest of the article.

3 posted on 08/13/2005 3:35:12 PM PDT by Dark Skies (The storm is coming!)
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To: Travis McGee; F15Eagle; SheLion; Happy2BMe

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8 posted on 08/13/2005 4:15:50 PM PDT by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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9 posted on 08/13/2005 4:18:14 PM PDT by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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There is an aspect of Islam which 99% of "infidels" are clueless about.Mecca IS Islam, in a way it is difficult for Westerners to comprehend. Two of the "five pillars of Islam" are based on worshipping that black moon-god rock called Al-Hajarul Aswad in Arabic. (5x daily prayer to the moon-rock, and the Haj or pilgrimage to visit and worship the moon-rock in person.) Muslims see the black stone not as symbolic, but as a physical manifestation of Allah on earth, a chunk of Allah fallen to earth. The black stone has the power to suck all of the sins and evil out of men performing the Hajj pilgrimage. It is interesting to note that Islam’s holy of holies is packed with all of the sins of all of the Muslims who ever made the Hajj. The black stone will tell Allah on judgement day all of the sins of all of the Muslims, for Allah to judge. The black stone is the one and only “hard drive” of Islam.

Devout Muslims believe that the black stone represents all of Allah's power and glory. They believe, sincerely, that if the USA launched rockets at Mecca, Allah would swat them away like flies, or turn them around to hit New York or Washington.

If Allah could not stop the”infidel” bombs, and Mecca was turned into a crater, this would constitute absolute proof that Muhammed was a fraud and a liar, and that the moon-god rock had no power after all.

This would mean the end of the entire cult of Islam. Their cult could not adapt to or respond to or overcome complete, visible proof that Allah was powerless to stop the infidel weapons. It is critical to note (and this is also one of the 5 pillars of Islam) that “There is no God but Allah, and Muhammed is his LAST prophet.” You see, the religion is perfect, complete, finished. Allah gave the 5 pillars to Muhammed. These 5 pillars of Islam CANNOT BE CHANGED, EVER, and there still be Islam. No Mecca, no Kaaba, no black stone = no Hajj, no 5X daily prayer = no Islam.

Now, I'm not calling for or predicting Mecca will ever be bombed. Not unless American cities were destroyed by Islamofascist nuclear bombs first. Our insane enemies don't care if we threaten Cairo or Damascus. They would welcome such attacks, as providing mega-martyrs for Allah! Polls conducted in many Islamic nations have asked, "Would it be worth it to wipe Israel off the map with atomic bombs, if it meant millions of Muslims would die in the counterstrike?" The poll is answered YES! by high numbers. So targeting cities means nothing to our fanatical enemies.

Mecca, on the other hand, means everything to our enemies. Some of our semi-rational enemies must understand that if they nuke our cities, they may finally get a test of Allah's power to smite incoming missiles before they can hit and destroy Mecca and Allah’s black moon-god rock. These semi-rational enemies must understand this, so that they can influence the complete maniacs, and keep them from ever getting the nuclear weapons they would surely use against America, given the chance.

The semi-rational Islamists must understand that Mecca and Allah's all-powerful black moon-god rock are on the table, as a retaliatory target, if our cities are attacked with nukes.

Putting Mecca on the counterstrike target option list, even hypothetically, means far, far more to them than threats to change Arab regimes or bomb Muslim capitols.

I want the insane and semi-sane Islamofascists to understand this: nuke America, and Mecca is on the retaliation list. This is the only meaningful deterrent threat, to insane and semi-sane Islamofascists. If you wish the sane Muslims and semi-sane Islamists to influence the Islamofascists away from WMD attacks on the USA, let it be known that the very existence of Mecca, (and therefore their entire religion), is on the table.

(And don't bother with the trite comparison of Mecca and say, the Vatican. The Vatican is just the place the Pope hangs his miter. Catholics don't literally lay down and worship some idol in St. Peters 5 X a day, for 20 minutes. If Rome was nuked, it would not destroy Christianity. Christianity lies in the heart of each believer, in the concept of Jesus the Savior on the Cross, not in worshipping some physical idol or totem like Allah's black rock.)

Islam: Meteorite Worship of the black stone

23 posted on 08/13/2005 7:07:06 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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My first preference would be the conquest and forced conversion to Christianity of the Muslim world.

Whoa Tov. The secular humanists, and atheists might have a problem with that approach, not to mention the muslims...then again, you and Ann Coulter are probably right, no other choice.

5.56mm

30 posted on 08/13/2005 7:55:32 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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'Fourteen Points' just has a huge connotation of...failure.


34 posted on 08/13/2005 8:06:58 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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I like this guy a lot and his declarations.

Couldn't find anything to disagree with.

I tip my hat off to the author.


39 posted on 08/13/2005 8:54:57 PM PDT by TAquinas (Demographics has consequences.)
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Your ideas sound perfectly reasonable to me. Unless there is some sudden change in the nature of Islam - and its consistently bloody and vicious 1500 year history doesn't make this very likely - I think such measures will ultimately be the only survival strategy left to us.


42 posted on 08/14/2005 2:39:47 AM PDT by livius
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