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SOME QUICK THOUGHTS ON HARRIET MIERS: (Miers supports gay adoption and Int'l Criminal Court?)
The New Republic Blog ^ | today | Ryan Lizza

Posted on 10/03/2005 10:54:28 AM PDT by Rodney King

SOME QUICK THOUGHTS ON HARRIET MIERS: This pick reinforces several traits Bush doesn't want reinforced right now. It's a pro-business pick. In Texas Miers specialized in "commercial litigation, including antitrust and trade regulations and intellectual property disputes" according to this bio. It's a pro-crony pick. She was Bush's personal lawyer as far back as the 1980s, and obviously loyalty to Bush trumped intellectual firepower. Finally, the Miers pick cements the idea that Bush is politically weak and scared of a major fight with Democrats. As Bill Kristol just pointed out on Fox, this choice will be depressing to conservatives at exactly the moment when they were looking to be bucked up by the president.

For instance economic conservatives pleased by her corporate law background may find it distressing that in 1990 Miers voted for a 7 percent property tax increase during her short tenure on the Dallas City Council. And Miers's long affiliation with the ABA will serve up lots of interesting tidbits that are unlikely to please social and legal conservatives. For instance, she apparently submitted the following report to the ABA's House of Delegates. Here are two of the report's recommendations:

Supports the enactment of laws and public policy which provide that sexual orientation shall not be a bar to adoption when the adoption is determined to be in the best interest of the child. ...

Recommends the development and establishment of an International Criminal Court.

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Over to you, Pat Roberts and John Bolton.

--Ryan Lizza


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KEYWORDS: harrietmiers; uhoh
We need to find out if this represents her views, or perhaps the views of a committee that she chaired, and had to submit the report despite her disagreements with the opinions. Click the link to find the links to the actual reports.
1 posted on 10/03/2005 10:54:41 AM PDT by Rodney King
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To: Stingray51

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2 posted on 10/03/2005 10:54:56 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Rodney King

He's right on at least one thing...Bush is scared of a fight with the Senate MINORITY.


3 posted on 10/03/2005 10:56:38 AM PDT by Sometimes A River ("The leaves have broken on Lake Ponktran" - WKAT 1360 AM Miami Newsreader)
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To: Acts 2:38

The mods have pulled this out of any area where it will be noticed, please ping people to it, thanks.


4 posted on 10/03/2005 10:59:21 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: NYer

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5 posted on 10/03/2005 10:59:55 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Uncle Joe Cannon; Ol' Sparky

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6 posted on 10/03/2005 11:01:58 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: conservativecorner; Blood of Tyrants

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7 posted on 10/03/2005 11:03:47 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Rodney King
Supports the enactment of laws and public policy which provide that sexual orientation shall not be a bar to adoption when the adoption is determined to be in the best interest of the child. ... Recommends the development and establishment of an International Criminal Court.

Until I see FACTUAL documentation and not an accusation from some blog, I'm calling b.s. on this claim.
8 posted on 10/03/2005 11:04:23 AM PDT by demkicker (Life has many choices. Eternity has only two. Which one have you chosen?)
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To: demkicker

If you go to the blog they have links to the actual documents.


9 posted on 10/03/2005 11:05:48 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: demkicker

She submitted the report alright, but like I said she might have been opposed to those findings. Conservative Senators need to ask:

To: Members of the House of Delegates
From: Select Committee of the House
Subject: Sneak Preview of 1999 Los Angeles Midyear Meeting Agenda
Date: October 28, 1998

As part of its ongoing effort to improve communication, the Select Committee of the House has prepared the attached report which includes information concerning issues that are being developed for presentation to the House of Delegates.

In most instances, these matters will likely be considered at the upcoming Midyear Meeting in Los Angeles. Where information was available concerning items being developed for later meetings of the House, that information has been included and is so noted.

The Committee urges all Delegates to review this list for items of interest to their constituencies, and to act as the catalyst for further contact and action so that each entity will have the earliest opportunity for consideration and input.

Please note that: 1) this list is tentative in nature; 2) the filing deadline for submission of reports with recommendations by Association entities and affiliated organizations is Friday, November 20, 1998; and 3) information as to what has actually been submitted will be forwarded to you as soon as possible after that deadline.

House of Delegates
October 28, 1998

The Committee expresses its appreciation to those who provided the information on which this report is based. We ask that you provide additional information on any new developments or issues to any member of the Committee or to Rochelle E. Evans at the American Bar Center. She can be reached at 312/988-5157.

Respectfully submitted,
Harriet E. Miers, Chair
Richard M. Macias, Vice-Chair
Michael A. Bedke, Reporter
Tom Bolt
Paulette Brown
Daniel W. Hildebrand
C. Timothy Hopkins
Christel E. Marquardt
Estelle H. Rogers
Marna S. Tucker
Lonnie J. Williams
Diane C. Yu

cc:
Presidents and Executive Directors of State and Local Bar Associations and Affiliated Organizations Represented in the House of Delegates

Section and Committee Chairs

Senior Management Group

Section and Committee Staff Directors


10 posted on 10/03/2005 11:08:02 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Rodney King
and obviously loyalty to Bush trumped intellectual firepower.

Ad hominem bovine excrement. Loyalty to President Bush and intellectual firepower are assumed by this quote to be mutually exclusive. Horse manure.

11 posted on 10/03/2005 11:10:11 AM PDT by MortMan (Eschew Obfuscation)
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To: Rodney King
I checked out the links in the blog and concluded that you are being disingenuious in trying to blame Harriet Miers for POTENTIAL AGENDA ITEMS FOR THE 1999 MIDYEAR MEETING OF THE HOUSE OF DELEGATES OF THE AMERICAN BAR ASSOCIATION. Psssst: She wasn't even President of the Texas State Bar OR the Dallas Bar during this time.

In 1992, Harriet became the first woman president of the Texas State Bar, and in 1985 she became the first woman president of the Dallas Bar Association.

Trying to smear Harriet Miers with a guilt by association with POTENTIAL AGENDA ITEMS FOR 1999 of the American Bar Association is contemptable and you should be ashamed for rumor mongering.

12 posted on 10/03/2005 11:26:07 AM PDT by demkicker (Life has many choices. Eternity has only two. Which one have you chosen?)
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To: Rodney King

Who is this woman Ms. Miers?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1495772/posts


13 posted on 10/03/2005 11:31:17 AM PDT by deport
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To: demkicker
I checked out the links in the blog and concluded that you are being disingenuious in trying to blame Harriet Miers for POTENTIAL AGENDA ITEMS FOR THE 1999 MIDYEAR MEETING OF THE HOUSE OF DELEGATES OF THE AMERICAN BAR ASSOCIATION.

Did I blame her for anything? No. So get off of your high horse, or is there a polcy a new policy at FR of not linking to posts that don't square with your views?

14 posted on 10/03/2005 11:35:25 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Rodney King
You're right. I owe you an apology. I'm just going nuts over the fear mongering going on here on FR about this nomination. I'm not crazy about the pick either, but this type of post doesn't do anything to shed true light on Harriet Miers but gives more fuel to Bush bashers who are ready to believe any and all things negative about Miers without examining whether or not there is any truth involved.

Sorry....

15 posted on 10/03/2005 11:47:29 AM PDT by demkicker (Life has many choices. Eternity has only two. Which one have you chosen?)
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To: demkicker

Thats ok, I am not sure what to think of the nomination. I was pissed this morning. I have now come to the conclusion that she is no Souter, but, she is also not going to be an intellectual conservative heavweight who will serve as a beacon to a generation of young conservative lawyers as Scalia has, which is too bad.


16 posted on 10/03/2005 11:50:22 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Rodney King
Finally, the Miers pick cements the idea that Bush is politically weak and scared of a major fight with Democrats.

She may turn out to be Scalia Part II but this really does disappoint me.

17 posted on 10/03/2005 11:52:47 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (but no more kool aid)
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To: Rodney King
For instance, she apparently submitted the following report to the ABA's House of Delegates.

Context would be quite useful here. Does anyone other than those shrieking about Miers understand what is invovled in submitting said report? Is it the work of a larger committee? Would we know how Miers voted if it was part of a larger committee?

18 posted on 10/03/2005 11:56:19 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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Does anyone other than those shrieking about Miers understand what is invovled in submitting said report? Is it the work of a larger committee? Would we know how Miers voted if it was part of a larger committee?

No, we don't know.

19 posted on 10/03/2005 11:57:06 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Rodney King
I saw no opinion on her part on these matters.
20 posted on 10/03/2005 11:57:09 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: Mike Darancette

Neither do I, as stated in post 1. However, it is worth finding out the answer.


21 posted on 10/03/2005 11:57:48 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Rodney King
However, it is worth finding out the answer.

Agree there. It's going to be an interesting few weeks here.

22 posted on 10/03/2005 11:58:32 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: Rodney King

IMHO, I think we need fewer "quick thoughts" and more patient evaluation.


23 posted on 10/03/2005 12:01:25 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: demkicker

"POTENTIAL AGENDA ITEMS FOR 1999 of the American Bar Association"

You are correct that it is just a list of potential agenda items. It was most likely added as an agenda item by the ABA bar members working on International Law so they could get more chargable hours. Who knows? But an agenda item that was pushed by an unknown source(s) can not be tied to Meirs recommending an ICC.

Sure, her viewpoint on and ICC would be a great area to discuss during her confirmation hearing.

Mama mia!


24 posted on 10/03/2005 12:03:00 PM PDT by frankjr
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To: Rodney King

The blog you are linking to, only shows an agenda of topics that were to be discussed by the committee Miers chaired.

She wasn't supporting those views.

Dear Mr. BassAckwards: You posted it, then followed up by saying we need to find out if it's true.

(It isn't true.)


25 posted on 10/03/2005 12:07:02 PM PDT by LibWrangler
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To: LibWrangler

Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot that at FR we are not allowed to post and discuss issues that are firing around the internet until we know 100% certain what the answer is.

Thanks for enlightening me.


26 posted on 10/03/2005 12:11:25 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Rodney King
I have now come to the conclusion that she is no Souter, but, she is also not going to be an intellectual conservative heavweight who will serve as a beacon to a generation of young conservative lawyers as Scalia has, which is too bad.

Why would you make such a statement? You have no way of knowing this to be true or not. There's too much negative assuming going on, IMO.

27 posted on 10/03/2005 12:14:23 PM PDT by demkicker (Life has many choices. Eternity has only two. Which one have you chosen?)
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To: demkicker
she is also not going to be an intellectual conservative heavweight who will serve as a beacon to a generation of young conservative lawyers as Scalia has, which is too bad.

Simply because she is not known in legal circles as one. There are very well-known legal heavyweights in the conservative movement like Lutting, McConell (not the Senator, the other one). She is simply not known as one of them.

28 posted on 10/03/2005 12:17:19 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Rodney King
Surely you know that just because Miers isn't "known" as a legal conservative heavyweight, doesn't prove that she will not be one. Geeze! Why are you jumping to unfair conclusions?

Lots of Supreme Court justices have had what appeared to be a conservative track record who, once on the court, have been deeply disappointing. Using your logic, I could make irrational assumptions about judges you wanted Bush to nominate and conclude that they just appear to be conservative but will turn out to be liberal based on Souter & O'Connor.

No one can predict with certainty the kind of justice Miers will be, but she is our President's choice. I know him to be a man of faith and he has known Harriet Miers for many years and knows her well. He knows her much better than any of the other potential nominees and for that, we should probably be grateful. In the end, every pick comes down to trust and with so much at stake, I'd like to think Bush is confident in her philosophy, ability and loyalty.

Trust, my friend.
29 posted on 10/03/2005 12:42:59 PM PDT by demkicker (Life has many choices. Eternity has only two. Which one have you chosen?)
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To: demkicker
doesn't prove that she will not be one. Geeze! Why are you jumping to unfair conclusions?

Of course it doesn't prove anything. But why not go for the sure thing?

30 posted on 10/03/2005 12:45:12 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Rodney King
But why not go for the sure thing?

That was my point. There is NEVER A SURE THING. In the end, you have to hope the nominee has been vetted well and that the President is confident in the fact that he truly knows that she will uphold and apply the Constitution. Like I said, it all boils down to trust in all nominations.

31 posted on 10/03/2005 12:54:33 PM PDT by demkicker (Life has many choices. Eternity has only two. Which one have you chosen?)
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To: Rodney King

No problem, RK. I like you too much to watch you making an arse of yourself by running around shouting fire without seeing the flames.

No charge for the enlightenment.


32 posted on 10/03/2005 2:09:16 PM PDT by LibWrangler
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