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HARRIET MIERS OUTSHINES BORK
MoonbatCentral.com ^ | October 4, 2005 | Richard Poe

Posted on 10/04/2005 3:20:22 PM PDT by Richard Poe

HARRIET MIERS OUTSHINES BORK

Unlike the Patron Saint of Originalism, Miers Will Defend Our Freedom


Judge Robert H. Bork has come to represent in many conservative minds the gold standard of legal sagacity against which provincial upstarts such as Supreme Court nominee Harriet Miers must be weighed.  In truth, however, Bork provides a poor example of conservative jurisprudence. Even as simple a phrase as, "the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed" has long confounded Judge Bork. Harriet Miers suffers no such confusion.

Following a July 1, 1992 incident in which a crazed gunman slew two lawyers and two judges in a Texas courtroom, Miers wrote in the Texas Lawyer, "How does a free society prevent a man from entering a courtroom and opening fire?" (hat tip, David Kopel)

The very liberties we hold dear, such as, "access to public places, the right to bear arms and freedom from constant surveillance" make such crimes possible, noted Miers. Yet, she concluded, "We are not willing to sacrifice these rights because of the acts of maniacs."

By contrast, Robert Bork dismisses the Second Amendment as a useless relic of bygone days.  In his 1996 book Slouching Towards Gomorrah he writes that, "The Supreme Court has consistently ruled that there is no individual right to own a firearm" — a statement which is demonstrably untrue. Bork also writes:

"The Second Amendment was designed to allow states to defend themselves against a possibly tyrannical national government. Now that the federal government has stealth bombers and nuclear weapons, it is hard to imagine what people would need to keep in the garage to serve that purpose.''

Perhaps if Judge Bork had found himself besieged by gangs in post-Katrina New Orleans, he might have gained a healthy appreciation for the utility of SKS rifles and AR-15s in modern life.  How much more would he have appreciated such hardware, had he found himself surveying the smoking ruins of an American city flattened by nuclear terror attack, devoid of police and swarming with brigands.

But Judge Bork is one of those men who cannot "imagine" what he has not personally experienced.  And so the "brilliant" jurist discarded James Madison's handiwork as casually as he would a soiled Kleenex.

If this is brilliance, how exactly should we define stupidity?

In today's American Thinker, Thomas Lifson exposes the snobbery which underlies so many conservative denunciations of Harriet Miers. He writes:

"Thus we hear conservatives sniffing that a Southern Methodist University legal education is just too non-Ivy League, adopting a characteristic trope of blue state elitists. We hear conservatives bemoaning a lack of judicial experience, and not a single law review article in the last decade as evidence of a second rate mind."

The outrage certain conservative pundits have displayed in the face of President Bush's decision to elevate Harriet Miers over their Ivy League classmates may be understandable. But it is not helpful. Nor is it admirable.


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To: Richard Poe

Well said!


61 posted on 10/04/2005 5:11:29 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Why is so much of the "Conservative" media punditry stuck on stupid?)
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To: Plutarch
Yeah, well at least Bork is writing books, one of Borks many achievements not shared by Harriet Miers.

Hillary wrote a book, too. Does that make her more qualified than Miers.

62 posted on 10/04/2005 5:12:25 PM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: nickcarraway
However, should not reasonable criticism of Miers be allowed? Just as there are reasonable defenses of her?

I'd welcome reasonable criticism. Instead, she has been ripped as being a possible lesbian, not qualified (when Rehnquist had no prior judicial experience), Bush's crony (that's MSM spin), or a closet Dem because of campaign contributions she made in 1988. Do you consider those reasonable?

63 posted on 10/04/2005 5:14:02 PM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: safisoft

"Brilliant? It is not brilliant to get your side more upset with you than the other side - unless you are dim-witted."

When "my side" is insisting on being dim-witted, I don't give a damn if they're upset.


64 posted on 10/04/2005 5:16:12 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: Howlin

What was it like when Bush picked Cheney? I was not here then and the situation seems so much the same I was wondering about it all day today. The Cheney choice has turned out pretty well, maybe President Bush knows something the rest of us don't.


65 posted on 10/04/2005 5:17:38 PM PDT by Ann de IL
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To: nickcarraway

"However, should not reasonable criticism of Miers be allowed?"

Let me know when there is a reasonable criticism, as opposed to the gossip and rumormongering (aka "bearing false witness") that's been the rule here.

This nomination has done one very valuable service: it has outed a bunch of FReepers as "Christians in Name Only."


66 posted on 10/04/2005 5:18:13 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: Steve_Seattle
I have always wondered about Bork and read one of his books. I came away feeling that he was a man easily tangled in webs of logic, always brilliant, but sometimes to the point of confusion.

I think he is an amazing intellect, and would have been an excellent addition to the court. However, as for myself, I prefer brilliant...but prizing clarity. The Chief Justice is a case in point. If Meirs is another one, I am going to feel that we have struck gold.
67 posted on 10/04/2005 5:21:23 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
When "my side" is insisting on being dim-witted, I don't give a damn if they're upset.

Hope you enjoy standing in line to vote, because 'your side' is losing a lot of voters because of comments like yours.
68 posted on 10/04/2005 5:22:13 PM PDT by safisoft (Give me Torah!)
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To: ConservativeAgenda

"I've recently noticed a lot of Freepers being critical, if not intolerant, of fellow Freepers who criticize or dissent from President Bush."

I'm generally intolerant of stupid people. And the criticisms of Bush over Miers are really stupid.


69 posted on 10/04/2005 5:22:23 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: dirtboy
Sorry, but he calls the 2nd Amendment an anachronism.

I scratched around with Google a bit, but was unable to find your reference. This was the best fit:

"The real argument against severe gun control is one of policy, not constitutionality," Judge Bork wrote that "the Supreme Court has consistently ruled that there is no individual right to own a firearm. The Second Amendment was designed to allow states to defend themselves against a possibly tyrannical national government. Now that the federal government has stealth bombers and nuclear weapons, it is hard to imagine what people would need to keep in the garage to serve that purpose."

It's an interesting point. I am not sure from it that Judge Bork actually disagrees with the policy of personal firearms ownership when it appears that his opinion is historical in nature.

Have you something that is a better example of what you said or is this a conclusion based upon a composite of Judge Bork's statements?

70 posted on 10/04/2005 5:24:57 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate is the fifth column.)
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To: safisoft

"Hope you enjoy standing in line to vote, because 'your side' is losing a lot of voters because of comments like yours."

Your stupidity is your problem, not mine.


71 posted on 10/04/2005 5:27:24 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: ladyinred
It will do no good to point out this woman's attributes. The bash Bush crowd will not be stilled.

The bash bush crowd is no different from the Bash Reagan crowd of 20 years ago.

Click here for the 'tator take on Miers

72 posted on 10/04/2005 5:27:30 PM PDT by Common Tator
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
However, posting it on the All-New Bush-Hating Free Republic is akin to casting pearls before swine...

I was shocked at the responses when she was announced.....people were going to vote for Hillary, people turned Democrat right then and there, calling Bush all kinds of names....it was unbelievable....the immaturity was eye opening for me.

73 posted on 10/04/2005 5:30:34 PM PDT by Fawn (Try Not----Do or Do not ~~ Yoda)
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To: AmericaUnited

DITTO!


74 posted on 10/04/2005 5:33:13 PM PDT by Fawn (Try Not----Do or Do not ~~ Yoda)
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To: Richard Poe

This is why it's important to have someone who has functioned in the real world on that court. There is a whole different mind set from those who have been nurtured in the cocoon of Ivy League.


75 posted on 10/04/2005 5:33:45 PM PDT by McGavin999 (We're a First World Country with a Third World Press (Except for Hume & Garrett ))
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To: Fawn

"I was shocked at the responses when she was announced.....people were going to vote for Hillary, people turned Democrat right then and there, calling Bush all kinds of names....it was unbelievable....the immaturity was eye opening for me."

This nomination has outed a bunch of "Christians In Name Only" on Free Republic.


76 posted on 10/04/2005 5:34:07 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
Your stupidity is your problem, not mine.

LOL. You aren't smart enough to figure out that it is your problem? It sounds like all the Country Club Republicans that put their noses in the air at the conservatives in the mid-seventies. Grass-root conservatives took over and delivered a majority by 1992, and a majority government by 2000.

Attitudes like yours reveal why it wasn't worth it. Losing over principle is more important than winning by compromise or by deceit. Maybe you think that is stupid - but history is littered with those who thought like that.
77 posted on 10/04/2005 5:34:29 PM PDT by safisoft (Give me Torah!)
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To: Richard Poe

I was just expalining this very thing on MArc Levins thread and here you are with a nice little dust up. Nice work.


78 posted on 10/04/2005 5:34:41 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Richard Poe

I was just expalining this very thing on Marc Levins thread and here you are with a nice little dust up. Nice work.


79 posted on 10/04/2005 5:35:01 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: safisoft
Brilliant? It is not brilliant to get your side more upset with you than the other side - unless you are dim-witted.

Yes ...brilliant! The people who immediatly bashed him had NO REASON TOO...as they knew NOTHING ABOUT MIERS. They ASSumed and jumped to conclusions because they were DIM-WITTED!!

80 posted on 10/04/2005 5:36:51 PM PDT by Fawn (Try Not----Do or Do not ~~ Yoda)
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