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Who Elected President Bush (And Supports His Choice For Scotus)?
Captain's Quarters Blog Comment ^ | 11 October 2005 | msdl5

Posted on 10/11/2005 4:19:08 PM PDT by shrinkermd

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To: shrinkermd
Maybe you energized the troops out here but we did the work.

Last I checked, everyone gets one vote each. That means the @-hole who wrote this trash did no more than any one of the ppl he mocks.

51 posted on 10/11/2005 4:48:33 PM PDT by Huck (Miers Miers Miers Miers Miers--I'm mired in Miers.)
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To: flashbunny
Now comments on blogs end up in news/activism?

May as well. You guys hock up every slimey loogey spewed by some third-rate dogcatcher to trash Miers.

This guy has as much credibility as the shoe-polish-coiffed David Frum with his "unnamed sources."

52 posted on 10/11/2005 4:48:34 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you're not willing to give Harriett Miers a hearing, I don't give a damn what you think.)
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To: flashbunny

Thanks, I voted for Bush twice.....and trust me, I live in the most blue of blue states that there is.

I was beginning to think my vote meant nothing and that I had no opinion. I'm glad there are others who think this to be idiotic too.


53 posted on 10/11/2005 4:48:40 PM PDT by Dazedcat
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To: badgerlandjim

yep. Nothing is needed from you...except your praise and your donations.

If you're from a 'blue' state, no matter what you've done, you can't comment on this.


54 posted on 10/11/2005 4:49:16 PM PDT by flashbunny (Sorry, but I'm allergic to KoolAid.)
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To: flashbunny
is it from him or from a reader of his blog?
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Of course it's not from the Captain, he's a Minnesotan and has lots of opinions on Miers.

To attribute that comment to him would be like attributing to him the reader comment that Bush is a racist because he didn't nominate Janice R. Brown.

Most of the pro-Miers people never miss an opportunity to deceive. The DU types are desperate to see Miers confirmed.
55 posted on 10/11/2005 4:50:03 PM PDT by Jim_Curtis
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To: flashbunny
LOLOLROTF, this is part of a long line of idiotic posts on this topic.

Most have their opinion, regardless of the facts or anyone else's right to have a differing opinion.

Tantrums R Us has become the tragicomedy of the right.

56 posted on 10/11/2005 4:50:06 PM PDT by OldFriend (One Man With Courage Makes a Majority ~ Andrew Jackson)
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To: sinkspur
Please. Spare me the usual sinkspur relativism.

If a reader comment on a blog deserves its own thread in news / activism, then my shopping list should be breaking news
57 posted on 10/11/2005 4:50:14 PM PDT by flashbunny (Sorry, but I'm allergic to KoolAid.)
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To: shrinkermd

Why stop at chastising the blue-state conservatives for not winning their own states for President Bush? It seems we can go further by criticizing them for failing to vote conservatives from their blue states to the Senate. It seems this whole mess has more to do with RINO Senators from the elite blue states than with President Bush himself.


58 posted on 10/11/2005 4:50:29 PM PDT by Vision Thing
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To: flashbunny
So, run to the mods, bunny.

You're such a crybaby anyway.

59 posted on 10/11/2005 4:52:07 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you're not willing to give Harriett Miers a hearing, I don't give a damn what you think.)
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To: shrinkermd

Totally agreed.

Thank you for the post.


60 posted on 10/11/2005 4:52:13 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (GO CARDINALS !!)
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To: shrinkermd
What an incredibly STUPID comment that is.

Coutler, Levin, Malkin, Krauthammer, Kristol et al. are NATIONAL COMMENTATORS!.

These names you mentioned did as much as anybody to energize the base in ALL states, and I may add, if it was not for these same individuals, Florida would have gone for Gore in 2000 FOR SURE and Ohio may well have gone for Kerry in 2004.

This is one of the most stupid remarks I have seen on this subject. This list of conservative commentators (much more lengthy than that list of yours) are right on the mark in their critique of this crony pick by Bush. You have made one of the worst cases yet on this subject matter. To see others on this thread agree with you and somehow fail to realize we are talking about NATIONAL COMMENTATORS is astounding! Fan club members and loyalists get so dizzy in their cheering that they fail to see the most obvious points.

With this stupid line of thinking, Bush should not be president because he is from "just Texas" and was not from all 50 states in the union.

61 posted on 10/11/2005 4:52:17 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: sinkspur

And weren't you a former banee who couldn't hold his tongue on the alan keyes threads?


62 posted on 10/11/2005 4:52:54 PM PDT by flashbunny (Sorry, but I'm allergic to KoolAid.)
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To: shrinkermd

Uhm, based on what? To me, the so called "moderate" Republicans that still on the local level dominate the blue state suburbs are the ones that really support this nomination, the rural and exurban conservatives are the ones who are most disgusted. Really a very stupid arguement, because while the pundits live in blue states, it is the people in the red states that give them their ratings.


63 posted on 10/11/2005 4:54:16 PM PDT by RFT1 ("I wont destroy you, but I dont have to save you")
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To: sinkspur

"You're such a crybaby anyway."

See, this is the problem people like you and howlin have.

You can't stand the fact that somebody might disagree with your ideas and your tactics, so you consider their going after them to be personal attacks.

And because you feel they are 'personal attacks' you respond with actual personal attacks like you just did with me.

Thanks, though, for illustrating exactly how you act. Can't deal with the issues so you resort to calling names.


64 posted on 10/11/2005 4:55:16 PM PDT by flashbunny (Sorry, but I'm allergic to KoolAid.)
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To: Dazedcat; flashbunny; Huck
"Idiotic" doesn't even begin to describe how inconceivably stupid this blog entry is.

It is so ill-reasoned that it makes idiocy look like brilliance by way of comparison.

65 posted on 10/11/2005 4:56:10 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("We don't want a Supreme Court justice just like George W. Bush. We can do better.")
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To: shrinkermd

I guess then when Clinton was in office, you didn't have a right to complain either if your state didn't vote for him.

Right?

Astounding reasoning...


66 posted on 10/11/2005 4:56:11 PM PDT by Pessimist
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham
Without the votes of Republicans living in New York, California, Massachusetts, among all of the other states enumerated by this guy, George W. Bush would have lost the popular vote in 2004.

Popular vote? If strict Constitutionalists such as Scalia and Thomas read your post, they'd laugh at you. Nowhere in the Constitution does the popular vote have any meaning in Presidential elections.

67 posted on 10/11/2005 4:56:33 PM PDT by Vision Thing
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To: Nathan Zachary
I agree with everything you said. Sure, I'm here throwin' in my two cents. And the first coupla days after Miers was announced, sorry, but I was really surprised and not happy. But, after a day or two, it was already clear the msg had gotten thru, for what that's worth. The displeasure, I mean. So what's the point of beating a dead horse? We don't get to vote anyway. And we ought to see what happens at the hearings.

The positive spin is that this is still a great country. A free country where ordinary joe's can totally flame the president for making a pick they don't agree with. He's no more immune to it than the baseball manager who leaves a pitcher in too long or sets the lineup the wrong way, or the football coach who fails to manage the clock in the last 2 minutes. Pick your analogy.

So here we are, all of us honestly caring about the outcome, honestly wanting the best for our country, honestly acting on our patriotic feelings. And we're free to do it, and lame as the press is, they are free to deliver our feelings all the way to the Oval Office and the halls of Congress. They've heard us.

But, at the same time, it's UGLY for the party. Personally, I am sort of glad. You're right that the Democrats are worse, and maybe we're stuck with what we have, but the idealist in me thinks that this sort of thing is an opportunity for constitutionalists to gain a stronger foothold. What frustrates me is that we have become the blacks of the GOP. The taken for granted. We have no leverage. And I'm sorry. I don't go in for the adoration that some ppl give the president. Call me a cynic, but to me politics is an ignoble profession, and anyone in it is to be watched closely, not worshipped.

68 posted on 10/11/2005 4:56:44 PM PDT by Huck (Miers Miers Miers Miers Miers--I'm mired in Miers.)
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To: shrinkermd
Who elected Bush?

Not Minnesota, not Michigan, not Wisconsin, not Maine, not Vermont, not New Hampshire, not Conneticut, not Massachusets, not New York, not Pennsylvania, not Delaware, not DC, not Illinois, not California, not Oregon, not Washington, not Maryland, not Hawaii.

Hmmmmm...As an observer, looking back at the past few years, with all the growth of government, massive government spending, social programs, open borders ect, etc, does this now make those conservative states with everyone else being fooled?

69 posted on 10/11/2005 4:57:20 PM PDT by Black Tooth (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: flashbunny

ditto.


70 posted on 10/11/2005 4:58:15 PM PDT by birbear (Admit it. you clicked on the "I have already previewed" button without actually previewing the post.)
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To: My2Cents
Upon what do you base your characterization that Miers is a "Dukakis lefty"?

She contributed the max to the DNC five days before the 1988 Presidential Election.

Someone who contributed the max to the DNC five days before the 2004 Presidential Election would be known as a "Kerry Lefty". It's not just an opinion, it is a fact.

71 posted on 10/11/2005 4:58:18 PM PDT by Jim_Curtis
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To: Vision Thing

no, they don't, but their votes kept the liberals from harping on the "he never won the popular vote" train.

Plus, even though they can't deliver their states, the blue states deliver a hell of a lot of money to the presidential campaign for republicans.

To insult them like this is idiotic.


72 posted on 10/11/2005 4:58:27 PM PDT by flashbunny (Sorry, but I'm allergic to KoolAid.)
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To: shrinkermd

I may not agree with the Miers nomination (or I may), but this observation is extremely well-perceived. I live in NC, so I guess I get to talk about SC nominations. Of course, anyone really can talk, but we don't have to listen to people who don't help us anyway.....

Great post.


73 posted on 10/11/2005 4:59:30 PM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: Vision Thing
You're absolutely correct.

I was just using the imbecilic reasoning of the man who posted that utterly moronic piece.

After all, where the hell in the Constitution does it say that we have to be silent if we disagree with a decision made by the president?

74 posted on 10/11/2005 4:59:46 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("We don't want a Supreme Court justice just like George W. Bush. We can do better.")
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To: flashbunny

Ping post #61. I posted that before I saw your post.

Agree. This may be the most stupid comment I have seen on Free Republic this year.


75 posted on 10/11/2005 5:00:01 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: flashbunny
"GWB would not be in the white house without these 'elitists' and he knows it."

Absolutely wrong. Buchanan and Kristol did nothing but cause harm during both campaigns. I started listening to Ingraham during the campaign, because of her support for the President. I haven't listened to her since August, and I'm not the only one.

You also have a rather high opinion of pundits. Right now, the pundits behavior is not any different than Dan Rather's. They latched onto a lie during Katrina and they are running with it.

76 posted on 10/11/2005 5:00:05 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: Thumper1960
If a few farmers and storekeepers

That's right. They were all just a bunch of sodbusters. All farmers found universities, lead armies to defeat great empires, serve as envoys to the great nations of Europe, lead state governments, design architecture, write books, create new scientific inventions. Just your run of the mill pig farmers.

77 posted on 10/11/2005 5:00:22 PM PDT by Huck (Miers Miers Miers Miers Miers--I'm mired in Miers.)
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To: flashbunny
no, they don't, but their votes kept the liberals from harping on the "he never won the popular vote" train.

Ah yes. There's the nut of the matter: You're more concerned about the dainty sensibilities of liberals than you are about the supremecy of the Constitution.

78 posted on 10/11/2005 5:02:16 PM PDT by Vision Thing
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To: Hank Rearden

You said: So, in return, can we get him to stop ruling us, especially with his out-of-control spending, border insecurity and silly nominations?
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Sorry, nope, you lose. The election was a national one. You're IN the nation, so deal with it. But the poster has a great point. No one has to listen to you.


79 posted on 10/11/2005 5:02:59 PM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: A Citizen Reporter

it's not just buchannan and kristol. People just like to cite those because it's 'acceptable' to dislike them.

The names of prominent commentators who have come out against the nomination in one way or the other is astounding. Limbaugh, limbaugh, steyn, coulter, malkin, frum, almost all of national review, will, noonan, and on and on and on.

And the white house and the party is ticking of their best weapons for what? A mediorcre, unknown nominee that would never had been named by any other president, and wouldn't have been picked by GWB if they didn't know each other for years?


80 posted on 10/11/2005 5:03:37 PM PDT by flashbunny (Sorry, but I'm allergic to KoolAid.)
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To: flashbunny; Cacique; Huck; Stellar Dendrite; Betaille; Hank Rearden
The ZIP code where Bush has raised the most money is 10021 in New York City ($712,500), which was the biggest source of money overall outside Washington, D.C. in the 2002 and 2000 election cycles.

http://www.opensecrets.org/pressreleases/PresFR3Q.asp

81 posted on 10/11/2005 5:03:57 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("We don't want a Supreme Court justice just like George W. Bush. We can do better.")
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To: Vision Thing

no, I wasn't, so don't put words in my mouth.

I was just pointing out one of the benefits of winning the popular vote: It shut the liberals up about something for a change.


82 posted on 10/11/2005 5:04:58 PM PDT by flashbunny (Sorry, but I'm allergic to KoolAid.)
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To: shrinkermd
This is a really specious argument. Many voters in red states, like myself admire the wisdom and insightfulness of people like Coulter, Lowry, Kristol, Krauthammer, Ingraham, Fund, and Rushbo, who very definitely helped W to become President.

Whether or not you agree or not with the Harriet pick, these individuals have earned due respect.

83 posted on 10/11/2005 5:05:12 PM PDT by kcar (The UNsucks.com)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham
After all, where the hell in the Constitution does it say that we have to be silent if we disagree with a decision made by the president?

Chill. No one is telling you to be silent. However, if you want the privilege to disagree out loud with the president, then you should extend the same privilege to those who disagree with you.

84 posted on 10/11/2005 5:06:15 PM PDT by Vision Thing
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

I guess the genius who made this comment (on the comment section of a blog, no less) should tell all the people in the 'blue states' that the republicans don't need their money for presidential campaigns.

I can't believe some people felt this completely moronic comment was 'well stated'.


85 posted on 10/11/2005 5:06:45 PM PDT by flashbunny (Sorry, but I'm allergic to KoolAid.)
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To: flashbunny

Yeah - I gotta siddown and shaddup - and I ain't the one who donated $1,000 to that Uber-Conservative - ALGORE. Go figure.


86 posted on 10/11/2005 5:08:04 PM PDT by badgerlandjim (Hillary Clinton is to politics as Helen Thomas is to beauty)
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To: flashbunny

Can you read or do you just make shit up as you go along? THE BLOGGER SAID THIS!


87 posted on 10/11/2005 5:08:31 PM PDT by cksharks (ew prayers for them because they will need it.)
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To: shrinkermd

she's nominated & has a .45, good enough for me....


88 posted on 10/11/2005 5:09:11 PM PDT by ronnied (we are the only animals that bare our teeth in greeting...)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

A state's electoral votes are what matter in the presidential election, not the amount of money donated by the state's residents.

You should learn the Constitution.


89 posted on 10/11/2005 5:09:30 PM PDT by Vision Thing
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To: A Citizen Reporter
You know what?

Laura Ingraham has been more committed to the conservative cause than anyone in the entire Bush family-with the possible exception of Jeb, and even that's iffy-has been during the course of their lives.

If I have to pick which Texan I trust me more to stand up for conservative principles, Tom Pauken or George W. Bush, it sure as hell isn't going to Bush, I can tell you that much!

It's not even a contest.

90 posted on 10/11/2005 5:09:50 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("We don't want a Supreme Court justice just like George W. Bush. We can do better.")
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To: samadams2000
He hasnt done much for me in 5 years since the tax cut and WOT.

Not like those are small things. He also got the economy going despite inheriting a recession, a devastating (to the economy and to mankind) terrorist attack on 9/11, and through two wars. Yes we would all like him to secure the borders (I know you are going there) but what president has before him? Can't say that it's all Bush's fault. (Oops I forgot we are not aloud to say that anymore since all of the Bush haters have now come out of the closet and now everything is Bush's fault.)

91 posted on 10/11/2005 5:10:33 PM PDT by sydbas
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

You said: Without the votes of Republicans living in New York, California, Massachusetts, among all of the other states enumerated by this guy, George W. Bush would have lost the popular vote in 2004.
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I hate to appear elitist, but under our constitution the popular vote doesn't really count. Sure, I am glad we won it, but we didn't in 2000, and Bush was elected nonetheless. The poster makes a brilliant observation. Most of those who oppose Miers are from states that didn't give the electoral, that is, constitutional, vote for the president.

I may or may not support the Miers nomination, but I like the fact that plain ol' folks identify with her.

(By the way, for what little it is worth, I am an attorney, out of a less than elite law school, UNC, and I could interpret the constitution better than at least 4 of the justices.... and I bet there are plenty like me with no apparent "judicial philosophies"....)


92 posted on 10/11/2005 5:11:34 PM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: flashbunny
They certainly need it.

Whether they deserve, much less, are entitled to it, is another matter altogether.

93 posted on 10/11/2005 5:12:06 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("We don't want a Supreme Court justice just like George W. Bush. We can do better.")
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To: cksharks
"Can you read or do you just make shit up as you go along? THE BLOGGER SAID THIS!"

Follow the link.

The comment listed above is made by a READER of the blog, not the blogger himself. It is 3/4 down the page at this moment.

mdsl5 is not 'the captain' who runs the captain quarters blog.

I'll be waiting for your apology. The question is whether you'll have integrity to rightly offer one.
94 posted on 10/11/2005 5:12:11 PM PDT by flashbunny (Sorry, but I'm allergic to KoolAid.)
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To: Jim_Curtis
" Most of the pro-Miers people never miss an opportunity to deceive. The DU types are desperate to see Miers confirmed."

And just what does this statement make you?

I support the Meir's nomination because she is a person with integrity. Nothing more.

Now I'm a "DU type"? You are stereo typing Meirs supporters as being some soft right leaning liberal. Nothing could be further from the truth, and by suggesting such a thing makes you what?
It makes you a DECIEVER,(and a hypocrite) the very thing you accuse Miers supporters of.

I will wait until the hearings and then decide what I think based upon what She says in answer to real questions, not based on media trash, and opinions people have who know nothing about her.

Al this BS about what she did while she was developing as a person, 20 years ago, 30 years ago and in between does not mean that's what she is today. People live learn grow, and change. It's what she is today that I am concerned with, and She seems to be a fine, upstanding person.

Ultimately, it's not OUR decision anyways, it's in the hands of a bunch of idiots who other idiots elected to sit in the senate. What worries me more, is that this unqualified collection of buffoons will either elect, or not elect her to the bench, and that their decission will not be based on what's good, what's truth, and what is good for the Nation, but on what's good for their political career.

95 posted on 10/11/2005 5:13:07 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: NCLaw441
My argument had nothing to do with the Constitution.

It was related to the imbecilic assertion that we had to "shut up" because we lived in states that didn't cast their electoral votes for President Bush.

He was implying that we had less of a voice in the matter than Republicans who lived in states that were in the red column, which isn't true.

96 posted on 10/11/2005 5:14:43 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("We don't want a Supreme Court justice just like George W. Bush. We can do better.")
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To: flashbunny
I was just pointing out one of the benefits of winning the popular vote: It shut the liberals up about something for a change.

Aren't you the one who despises the Miers nomination because she has no paper trail in regards to her views on the Constitution? Aren't you also complaining about the political nature of this nomination?

If so, you should show little concern about the non-Constitutional concept of the Popular Vote and how the libs can use it as a political weapon against us. Instead, you're merely using it as one of many rationalizations in your opposition to Miers and Bush.

97 posted on 10/11/2005 5:16:15 PM PDT by Vision Thing
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Associated Press-Ipsos poll conducted by Ipsos-Public Affairs. Oct. 3-5, 2005. N=1,000 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3.1.

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"As you may know, Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor is retiring, and President Bush has nominated Harriet Miers to replace her. Is your opinion of Supreme Court nominee Harriet Miers favorable, unfavorable, or haven't you heard enough about Harriet Miers yet to have an opinion?"

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orable
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10/3-5/05 19 13 67 1  

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"Do you think the U.S. Senate should or should not confirm Harriet Miers as a Supreme Court justice?"

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Not
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10/3-5/05 41 27 32    


98 posted on 10/11/2005 5:16:23 PM PDT by deport (Alberto Gonzales... Next up. LOL)
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To: flashbunny
"...The names of prominent commentators who have come out against the nomination in one way or the other is astounding. Limbaugh, limbaugh, steyn, coulter, malkin, frum, almost all of national review, will, noonan, and on and on and on...."

In respect to Limbaugh, remember he likes a good fight and has been itching for a down and out political brawl over SCOTUS. Ditto for Coulter. Ditto for Malkin. As for Frum, he has never gotten over being fired as a speech writer for claiming he wrote the "axis of evil line." Steyn isn't even an American and he makes a good living looking and writing for controversy understandable to a Canadian-UK-American audience.

My point is, these people all have agendas that may or may not influence what they think about Miers. My personal guess is the one thing not mentioned much is the fact that the President appreciates her character including her Evangelical beliefs. Nothing frightens the intelligentsia, left or right, then having a knuckle dragging, Neanderthal Jesus Freak in SCOTUS. In fact, I have yet to find anyone who can tell me when was the last time we had a "primitive" Protestant (Evangelical) in SCOTUS.

People are avoiding discussing the pros and cons of the relgious issue because it is so fraught with controversy no one can easily make political hay out of it.

99 posted on 10/11/2005 5:18:10 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: deport
Apparently, FReepers aren't the only ones expressing reservations about this nomination.

Not looking too good for Miers, is it?

100 posted on 10/11/2005 5:18:40 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("We don't want a Supreme Court justice just like George W. Bush. We can do better.")
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