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CAIR defames me again
Jihad Watch ^ | November 09, 2005 | Robert Spencer

Posted on 11/11/2005 6:28:30 PM PST by strategofr

Showing a fine contempt for the fair dialogue that they claim to be trying to promote, the Council on American Islamic Relations has smeared me in a new press release:

The Washington-based council said the growing level of Islamophobic rhetoric in American society prompts some individuals to turn their hate-filled views into violent actions.

Just yesterday, CAIR urged a Los Angeles synagogue that hosted a speech by Robert Spencer, the operator of a virulently anti- Muslim website, to offer its congregation a more balanced perspective on Islam. Comments and articles on Spencer's site, which is used as reference by a number of Islamophobic commentators, compare Muslims to animals and Nazis and portray Islam as an inherently violent faith that must be confronted.

New comments on that site today include "death to islam (sic)," "islam must be destroyed..destroy islam (sic)," "ISLAM = DEADLY PARASITE," and "Islam IS the NAZISM of our generation."

Although these comments were, I believe, taken from the thread on which I issued the challenge, CAIR has ignored my challenge to produce one false statement about Islam from any of my own writings. Once again, although I have written reams about Islam and terrorism, they don't quote one syllable of my own writings. Instead, they have once again quoted things I didn't write, selecting material from this unmoderated forum to suit their own ends, and ignoring postings from the same unmoderated thread that did not suit the smears they were trying to make, like this one:

"...the Qur'an is protected by God Himself, no one can change His words, and since the revelation was revealed to Muhammad, peace be upon him, the words have not been changed."

In other words, what we have here at Jihad Watch is what is known as "free discussion." CAIR may hate it, but it is protected by American law. I have removed some of the comments that are objectively offensive, as I routinely do when they are called to my attention. As longtime readers here know, many times I have told people that offensive comments are not tolerated and will be removed -- when I see them, which is not all that often. I have often been tempted to end comments, but for a variety of reasons have not done so; and I certainly am not going to do so now, under pressure from this group that has shown so little interest in fairness or true dialogue. But I am not also going to be held responsible for material I did not write. Ibrahim Hooper, Hussam Ayloush, I challenge you again: quote me. The fact that you do not and cannot indicates that you know how empty and despicable your attacks on me are.

It is particularly despicable that CAIR is trying to associate me with attacks on innocent people. If CAIR really thinks I am encouraging such attacks, let it establish that from my own writings. My own writings.

Meanwhile, I just searched in vain on their website, where their first attack on me is now featured, for any condemnation of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's genocidal call for the destruction of Israel, which both Iran's President and Foreign Minister tied to Islam: "The world will see the anger of the Islamic world against this regime."

If CAIR really believes that hate-filled rhetoric leads to violence, let it condemn Ahmadinejad. If CAIR really believes that hate-filled rhetoric leads to violence in America, let it condemn the vitriolic hatred of Jews and Christians that is taught in American mosques and schools.

CAIR has not condemned either one.


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Good stuff.
1 posted on 11/11/2005 6:28:31 PM PST by strategofr
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To: strategofr
Whether it's good stuff or not, CAIR's attempts to silence Americans who speak out about Islam have worked to deprive them (CAIR) of what seemed earlier to be an automatic invitation for Ibrahim Hooper to get national network airtime.

There are brands of Islam that have a great attraction to those who are easily manipulated by fascist imagery and words. We call them Islamofascists. CAIR supports such people.

2 posted on 11/11/2005 6:45:43 PM PST by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again? How'bout a double sarcasm for this one)
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To: strategofr

Both Jihadwatch and Dhimmiwatch are great sites to read. I used to think they were off the wall many years ago but after Theo van Gogh I started to think they were more in line with reality than I gave them credit for.


3 posted on 11/11/2005 6:48:33 PM PST by trashcanbred (Anti-social and anti-socialist)
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To: muawiyah

"Whether it's good stuff or not,"

It seems you may have scanned the post and picked up the quote from CAIR. Please re-read. This is an anti-Islamacist post.


4 posted on 11/11/2005 7:07:22 PM PST by strategofr (The secret of happiness is freedom. And the secret of freedom is courage.---Thucydities)
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To: trashcanbred

"I used to think they were off the wall many years ago but after Theo van Gogh I started to think they were more in line with reality than I gave them credit for."

I've had my own evolution to the right, many years in the making.


5 posted on 11/11/2005 7:08:17 PM PST by strategofr (The secret of happiness is freedom. And the secret of freedom is courage.---Thucydities)
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To: strategofr

I believe your word "Islamicist", and my word "Islamofascist", refer to the same people.


6 posted on 11/11/2005 7:10:13 PM PST by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again? How'bout a double sarcasm for this one)
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To: muawiyah

"I believe your word "Islamicist", and my word "Islamofascist", refer to the same people."

Correct.


7 posted on 11/11/2005 7:31:28 PM PST by strategofr (The secret of happiness is freedom. And the secret of freedom is courage.---Thucydities)
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To: JohnathanRGalt; backhoe; All
ON THE NET...

DANIEL PIPES.org - Weblog: "CAIR's LEGAL TRIBULATIONS"

CNS NEWS.com: "CAIR CALLS FOR CALM IN FRANCE" by Melanie Hunter (November 8, 2005)

JIHAD WATCH.org: "THE LIES ESCALATE" (November 13, 2005)

JIHAD WATCH.org: "CAIR DEFAMES ME AGAIN" (November 9, 2005)

JIHAD WATCH.org: "CAIR GOES AFTER ME" (November 8, 2005)

CNS NEWS.com: "CONGRESS URGED TO RECOGNIZE THE BEGINNING OF RAMADAN" (September 26, 2005)

FrontPageMagazine.com: "WHOSE SIDE IS CAIR ON?" by Andrew Whitehead (September 21, 2005)

JIHAD WATCH.org - DHIMMI WATCH: "DC Watson: CAIR: TRIVIALIZING 9/11 FOR THE SAKE OF ISLAM?" (September 18, 2005)

DanielPipes.org (FrontPageMagazine.com): "WHY CORPORATIONS FUND RADICAL ISLAM" by Daniel Pipes (September 2, 2005)

JIHAD WATCH.org: "MPAC, CAIR, ISNA FEEL EXCLUDED FROM THE STRUGGLE AGAINST TERRORISM" (August 30, 2005)

MichNews.com: "ACLU ALLIANCE WITH CAIR?" -Column by Sher Zieve (August 26, 2005)

CNS NEWS.com: "CAIR HAILS FIRING OF MICHAEL GRAHAM" by Randy Hall (August 22, 2005)

TOWNHALL.com: "CAIR 1, FREE SPEECH 0" -Column by Joel Mowbray (August 22, 2005)

TOWNHALL.com: "WELL, THEY GOT ME..." -Column by Michael Graham (August 22, 2005)

DanielPipes.org - Weblog: "CAIR NAMED AS A DEFENDANT IN 9/11 TERROR LAWSUIT" (December 30, 2004) (NOTE: SEE AUGUST 15, 2005 UPDATE)

FrontPageMagazine.com: "CAIR FOUNDED BY 'ISLAMIST TERRORISTS'?" by Daniel Pipes and Sharon Chadha (July 28, 2005)

TheCounterterrorism Blog: "WALID PHARES: CAIR MUST CONDEMN AL QAIDA AND JIHADISM.." (July 28, 2005)

AMERICAN DAILY.com: "CAIR DISLIKES FREE SPEECH ON RADIO" by Pete Fisher (July 26, 2005)

WorldNetDaily.com: "CAIR TO GOP: REPUDIATE TANCREDO Upset by radio discussion about bombing Mecca" (July 22, 2005)

TOWNHALL.com: "THE MUSLIM HATE CRIME THAT WASN'T" -Column by Michelle Malkin (July 6, 2005)

FRONTPAGE MAGAZINE.com: "CAIRing for Sami Al-Arian" by Joe Kaufman (June 22, 2005)

CNS NEWS.com: "ISLAMIC GROUP CALLS FOR USE OF KORAN TO TAKE OATH" by Melanie Hunter (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "An Islamic civil rights and advocacy group is calling on North Carolina judges to allow people to use the Koran when taking an oath, saying the use of the Bible exclusively represents "an inappropriate state endorsement of religion." The request by the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) comes after Guilford County judges said they would not allow use of Korans in their courtrooms.") (June 21, 2005)
DANIELPIPES.org - Weblog: "SIR IBRAHIM HOOPER AND LORD SALAM AL-MARAYATI?" (June 12, 2005)

JIHAD WATCH.org - Dhimmi Watch (AMERICANS AGAINST HATE): "JEB BUSH SENDS LETTER OF SUPPORT TO CAIR" (June 5, 2005)

ArabNews.com: Washinton: "CAIR OFFERING FREE QUR'AN COPIES TO AMERICANS" by Barbara Ferguson, Arab News (June 4, 2005)

"/littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=16089_NYT_Legitimizes_CAIR_(Again)&only" (June 4, 2005)

WorldNetDaily.com: "CAIR DISTRIBUTES QURAN BANNED AS ANTI-SEMITIC Version Offered for Free as Goodwill Response to Newsweek Fiasco" by Art Moore (June 2, 2005)

DanielPipes.org - Weblog: "MSM CRTICIZES CAIR, CAIR BRAZENS IT OUT" (May 23, 2005)

DANIEL PIPES.org (FrontPageMagazine.com): "CAIR's HATE CRIMES NONSENSE" by Daniel Pipes and Sharon Chadha (May 18, 2005)

CNS NEWS.com: "FREE KORANS FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE" by Susan Jones (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Over the weekend, CAIR held a conference in the Washington area on the causes and remedies of "Islamophobia and anti-Americanism."") (May 17, 2005)
FRONTPAGE MAGAZINE.com: "CAIR: HOW CLOSE TO TERRORISM?" by Andrew Whitehead and Lee Kaplan (May 11, 2005)

WorldNetDaily.com: "ACLU, CAIR DECRY ANTI-TERROR EFFORTS" April 20, 2005)

WorldNetDaily.com: "CAIR AND TERRORISM" -Commentary by Joseph Farah (April 18, 2005)

FrontPageMag.com: "CAIR's RADICAL NEXUS" by Josh Lefkowitz and Erick Stakelbeck (March 10, 2005)

INTERNET-HAGANAH.US: "WTF, OVER. [WHY IS THE DoD LIST SERVER BEING USED BY CAIR?]" (March 9, 2005)

DanielPipes.org - Weblog: "CAIR NAMED AS A DEFENDANT IN 9/11 TERROR LAWSUIT" (December 30, 2004)

WorldNetDaily.com: "SCHOOLS TO OBSERVE RAMADAN HOLIDAY?" (December 16, 2004)

8 posted on 11/14/2005 2:03:44 AM PST by Cindy
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To: Cindy; All
Here's what I have on 'em...

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Background:

CAIR Founded by "Islamic Terrorists?"

-- from Anti-CAIR:
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The real CAIR

CAIR's Campaign of Lies

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9 posted on 11/14/2005 2:13:16 AM PST by backhoe
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To: backhoe

Thank you backhoe for the additional links.


10 posted on 11/14/2005 2:50:49 AM PST by Cindy
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To: Cindy
If the "Media" were anything besides the bitter joke they have morphed into, the information you and I have, would be splashed across TV screens 24/7 ( like the celebrity-chat nonsense they barrage us with ) until Americans clearly understood that we are locked in a new World War, and CAIR is just one of many foot soldiers on the other side...
11 posted on 11/14/2005 3:04:53 AM PST by backhoe (The 1990's? The Decade of Fraud(s)™...)
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To: backhoe

I understand.


12 posted on 11/14/2005 3:13:27 AM PST by Cindy
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