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To: Hoplite; ma bell; Wraith

Scraped! and Rejected......


It is not indisputable just because you say so. I will challenge it as you are vastly outnumbered by the true accounts and not the spinning accounts. The entire venture to the Balkans was built on gross exaggerations and in some cases, fabrications. It's called an official spin and I have a person called General Enver Hadzihasanovic that disputes your version and Indisputable facts. Granted, in his testimony he claims 8,000 to 9,000 killed but then says that it's not consistent: Notice the "Certainty figure"....



Quote: "We also established that the number of individuals who were killed in the column was between 8.300 and 9.722. At that time the information we received was not consistent, but that was the approximate figure that we managed to establish. One can (20)claim for certainty that 2.628 members, both soldiers and commanding officers, members of the 28th Division, were killed"



testimony:

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(1)us that there were cases of mistreatment and killing in the immediate vicinity of Potocari, and I believe that the Court has heard evidence of the eyewitnesses to those events. I don't want to go into those details, but I know that such incidents were common there at that time. (5)The first review of troops took place on the 25th of July, 1995, and after that review, we managed to establish that 2.080 members of the 28th Division managed to pierce the front lines, and it was our assumption that there were probably several other members of the 28th Division who had gone to the village of Ciljuge, where there was a very big settlement (10)organised for the civilian population who managed to get out. Those members of the division had probably gone to Tuzla to look for the members of their family. So we continued collating the information, to the extent it was possible, and on the 4th of August, 1995, or thereabouts, we managed to (15)establish the accurate number of the members of the 28th Division who managed to get through. The number was 3.175.

We also established that the number of individuals who were killed in the column was between 8.300 and 9.722. At that time the information we received was not consistent, but that was the approximate figure that we managed to establish. One can (20)claim for certainty that 2.628 members, both soldiers and commanding officers, members of the 28th Division, were killed. When the decision was made for a breakthrough, we lost all connection with the column and the command of the division. They just told us, "We are starting. We're on the move towards Tuzla." And (25)"towards Tuzla" is a very broad area, so we didn't know the actual......

http://www.angelfire.com/theforce/des_ar/Apr062001.html#Seite9525


http://www.angelfire.com/theforce/des_ar/




"Srebrenica Propaganda Challenged by Independent Research"


"The premise that Serbian forces executed 7,000 to 8,000 people "was never a possibility," according to former BBC journalist Jonathan Rooper, who investigated on site and through official records over many years the events which followed the capture of Srebrenica, and whose findings are presented in the upcoming report of the Srebrenica Research Group. He noted that by the first week of August 1995, 35,632 people had registered with the World Health Organization and Bosnian Government as displaced persons, survivors of Srebrenica, a figure which was later referred to [in] an Amnesty International report and the report of the Dutch Government."

"Rooper noted that the International Committee of the Red Cross and The New York Times reported that about 3,000 Muslim soldiers who fought their way across Serb held territory to Muslim lines near Tuzla, were also survivors. The ICRC confirmed that these soldiers were redeployed by the Bosnian Army "without their families being informed." The figure of 3,000 soldiers who survived was also confirmed by Muslim Gen. Enver Hadzihasanovic, who testified at The Hague. These figures made it clear that at least 38,000 Srebrenica residents survived out of a population of 40,000 before the capture of the enclave. Around 2,000 Muslims who fled with the 28th Division were killed, most by fighting, but also hundreds executed by paramilitary units and a mercenary group."

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20050728&articleId=750



The Real Story Behind Srebrenica

http://www.balkanpeace.org/hed/archive/jul05/hed7098.shtml



43 posted on 02/20/2006 2:08:40 AM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: getoffmylawn

for your info


48 posted on 02/20/2006 8:25:52 AM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: tgambill
It is not indisputable just because you say so.

Correct.

It's indisputable because a sufficient body of evidence has been built up over the years to reveal the truth.

You and your little Serbian friends can keep trying to obscure the facts, producing more BS "reports" and attempting to spin the facts through omission and outright disinformation, but, ultimately, it will all be for naught.

You've gone past the point where you can discern what's helpful to your case and what's not - Gen. Hadzihasanovic's testimony in no way contradicts what I've presented. The column contained some 15,000 men, 5,000 of which belonged to the 28th Division, and whom were grouped at the front of the column, with their weapons. So if the General states that 2,000 plus men from the 28th made it through, that in no way addresses the 10,000 remaining men in the column, does it?

Pah. You're hopelessly incompetent as far as discussing this issue. You waste my time.

Take heed of what happened to David Irving, Tom.

51 posted on 02/20/2006 12:18:26 PM PST by Hoplite
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