Corruption of the term 'National Security'

2/18/06 | Souldrift

[MNJohnnie]

Read Article 2 of the US Constitution. Come back when you actually get find a clue. YOUR opinion of what is or is not legal is completely meaningless hot air. You have no standing in our system of Govt. The President is our chosen Representative. HIS opinion of what Article 2 means DOES have legal weight. Get your losers Democrat Party candidates to actually WIN an election or two and then maybe they will listen to your lunatic Legal opinions.

So since you are so completely clueless about the actual LEGAL grounds of this matter, don't waste our time with your emotionally hysteric posturing. Your opinions on what is "legal" are completely meaningless noise.

[Old Sarge]

[darkwing104]

OK..

You misunderstand wiretap vs. intercepts. The only targets being monitored are ones who were intercepted getting calls from known terrorist. That makes them foreign Agents. The NSA does not have the time and the resources to wiretap every American. The average paranoid schitzo out there has nothing to worry about, except when to take their meds.

If you read the laws concerning the Plame case there was no laws broken. The only thing Fitzgerald could charge Libby with is lying to a Grand jury.

However, the person(s) who have been leaking the wiretap story is a lawbreaker and severely damaged the NSA's ability to do their job of protecting this country from a foreign threat.

[Souldrift]

This is my point--we've already learned that Quaker groups have been watched (http://rawstory.com/news/2005/National_Security_Agency_spied_on_Baltimore_0110.html), so I do not believe this to only be foreign agents. That's abuse. I am aware Libby was only charged with lying to the Grand Jury, much like Clinton was. Don't tell me you think the Clinton indictment was valid and the Libby one not?

Ultimately, I'm not convinced this leak of the NSA program has "severely damaged their ability to to their job." Do you have proof?

[Souldrift]

Corrected link: http://rawstory.com/news/2005/National_Security_Agency_spied_on_Baltimore_0110.html

[DugwayDuke]

'I am aware Libby was only charged with lying to the Grand Jury, much like Clinton was. Don't tell me you think the Clinton indictment was valid and the Libby one not?"

No, not 'much like Clinton was'. Clinton lied to the grand jury to cover up his violation of a law that Clinton had himself signed into effect. Libby violated no law and besides, it is not clear that Libby even lied to the grand jury. So far, it is only a difference in recollections between Libby and others. Now, if you want to claim that Clinton didn't remember having sex with a woman in his private office on numerous occassions, please proceed.

[tet68]

Ultimately, I'm not convinced this leak of the NSA program has "severely damaged their ability to to their job." Do you have proof?

More to the point, do you have proof that it hasn't?

At least you are sticking around to answer for your post
which is more than most liberals do.

Welcome to FreeRepublic.

There's hope for you yet.

[DugwayDuke]

As reported on Google: "The Raw Story is a liberal alternative news counterpoint to the Drudge Report, culling liberal news, politics and alternative news from around the globe."

[darkwing104]

The story is a joke. The NSA agents involved where security guards doing their job of protecting Ft. Meade from trouble makers, of course they are going to interested. Ft Meade is a military installation, not a campus...You got fooled by the spin

I was stationed at Ft. Meade before I retired. Most folks at the NSA are pretty good and decent people. They are average folks doing their job. I wouldn't worry about them. I do know that when a program gets compromised the bad guys change their tactics and puts the country in jeopardy for a time till other means are used to gather information again.

[darkwing104]

We have a left wing blogger pretending to be a conservative.

Man, I was enjoying myself educating the poster...Now I got to call in the kitties.

[Beckwith]

Clearly we have current examples of the administration using the defense of classifying information for "national security" selectively to achieve its own ends. The American people cannot stand for this.

Where does this fool come from and why is he here?

Liberals, who begin their sentences with words and phrases like, "clearly," "the fact is" and "I'm sure you agree with me," have really big ego problems. Of course, this arrogance is a core requirement of the liberal. They are just born smarter, just ask their mommy.

Of course, this fool, who assumes to speak for "the American people," holds no elected office and undoubtedly has never been around a classified project in his life.

But I really have to giggle at the statement, "using the defense process of classifying information for "national security" selectively to achieve its own ends.

Of Course the administration is using classifications for their own ends and as President Bush has repeatedly stated, those ends are the protection of the American People.

[CBart95]

Seems everybody is being too kind to this "person".

Being very bright doesn't preclude also being very idiotic...and a lot of other psychiatric terms.

Responding directly to him seems more likely to "feed his disease" and really waste your good time.

But that's how you are...all heart.

[darkwing104]

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[Grampa Dave]

Darken the skies with the Viking Kitties!

[darkwing104]

I was warned about people being to quick to Zot noobs.

Besides, this one was posting about something I do know about.

[darkwing104]

Done.

I do like a good debate every now and then. It helps me keep my edge. Besides I am down with the flu and pretty much homebound this weekend.

[Grampa Dave]

You have a freepmail.

[steveegg]

"Did you say regular ZOT or extra-crispy?
I could've swore I heard extra-crispy."

[steveegg]

Darken the skies with the Viking Kitties!

Then brighten with lightning and mushroom clouds.

[Grampa Dave]

Souldrift is a smoldering chunk of zapped/seared troll protoplasm on the conservative road to the truth.

Time to page the paving crew to handle this little speed bump on the road to truth.