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1 posted on 03/19/2006 5:49:58 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: B4Ranch
Try to find Americans to do construction work or build houses.

Teachers unions price themselves out of a job, boo hoo.

This is just another communist rant.

2 posted on 03/19/2006 5:58:45 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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"American" co's management are trained to look at quarterly profit for wall street..so quick bucks saved by low wages paid overseas, look great on wall street.
But at some point if the American consumer is not earning better wages who do you sell to??
The Free trade and Free market crowd yells let the market determine the cost of goods and what the pay to workers should be..very idealistic and stupid..wake up free market guys..or America's standard of living must move to world averages..much much lower than present.
PS there is no free trade. EU has major tariffs as do most of the worlds biggest countries..only sucker USA has allowed others to dump products here without tariffs.
Perhaps the Free Trade crowd could explain why EU and China, India are using high tariffs ?? IF free trade is so great.
3 posted on 03/19/2006 5:59:18 AM PST by ConsentofGoverned (if a sucker is born every minute, what are the voters?)
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"Since 1990 the US has been paying for its imports by giving foreigners ownership of its assets."

Bush and his Republicans were in power during the 90's? News to me.

4 posted on 03/19/2006 6:00:37 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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Well, when both GM and Ford close their auto assembly plants in Georgia, I think people are glad Kia is going to build a plant there.


5 posted on 03/19/2006 6:04:16 AM PST by magellan ( by)
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Ah, yes. I see all of my friends standing in the breadline everyday I go to work. I'm practically starving and may have to sell my kidneys to an elderly Asian man to stay alive.

I wish we could go back to the old days, when we lived in rowhouses in polluted neighborhoods. But, hey, at least we had "good payin' fac'try jobs." /sarcasm

If low unemployment, a rising stockmarket, and more material goods than our grandparents could have dreamed of means that this country is "goin' down the drain" economically, then the sewer aint such a bad place to be.

7 posted on 03/19/2006 6:04:55 AM PST by Clemenza (I Just Wasn't Made for These Times)
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If outsourcing is so wonderful, let's get on with it. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Let's start with the senate, followed by the house of representatives. Probably get a decent reprsentative for $20,000 vs the $150,000, Plus perks, plus retirement.

Only when we do the above will outsourcing mean something.
9 posted on 03/19/2006 6:07:09 AM PST by Issaquahking
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To: B4Ranch; Willie Green
Excellent article!

Free traitors - murdering America one dollar at a time.

11 posted on 03/19/2006 6:07:48 AM PST by neutrino (Globalization is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.(173))
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save for later


12 posted on 03/19/2006 6:09:54 AM PST by krunkygirl
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labor unions, overbearing environmental and governmental regulations, and minimum wage laws are to blame, not free trade.
19 posted on 03/19/2006 6:24:08 AM PST by conservative physics
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Since 1990 the US has been paying for its imports by giving foreigners ownership of its assets. In the last 15 years foreigners have accumulated $3.6 trillion of America's wealth.

And yet, since 2001, our household net worth has gone from $40.7 trillion to $52.1 trillion. So much for Paul and his zero sum economics.

22 posted on 03/19/2006 6:27:46 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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Average hourly earnings

It is a line. It goes up. Gradually, but without any meaningful deviation from a straight line up. 6 years ago, before the stock market crash and the recession and the war, it was $13.78 an hour. Now it is $16.47 an hour, 20% higher, up 3% per year. US wages are simply not going down. The gloom and doomers have been proclaiming they are and will since approximately 1800 when Malthus had his brainstorms, but actual wages utterly refuse to move in the direction they claim they must.

Civilian employment

It is a line. It goes up. It has a few more deviations from perfectly straight than wages, which all have the same form - a bit of accelerating up, a sharp dip, and a slow curve back up again. At least 7 dips of that pattern are visible on the graph. Those are major recessions. You can see two of them in the 1950s, when none of the factors the article alleges were in play. If you look at the raw data, six years ago there were 136,559,000 jobs in America. Now there are 143,257,000, up 6.7 million or 1.1 million a year on average, counting one such dip. The number of jobs in the US is not going down. The gloom and doomers have been proclaiming they are since at least the 1970s and the modern protectionst movement, which has its origins in the unwillingness of either major party to promote rotectionism, as an economic and political loser. Since then we've added about 63 million jobs. Rather a lot really. You'd hope someone might notice.

Gross domestic product

It is an exponential curve. It accelerates at a uniform rate. Deviations from a perfect exponential are tiny and fleeting, and hardly noticable at all in the long term. Our wealth is proportional to the area underneath that curve. Not only are we not getting poorer, we are getting wealthier at an accelerating rate over time. Six years ago, US work and production was adding $9.52 trillion a year to our resources, annual rate. In the last year, the rate was $12.76 trillion a year, a third faster, and in absolute terms a new income of $3.24 trillion. This is the domestic product and excludes imports. During the same period, the "trade deficit" grew by $324 billion, one tenth of our new income. We got a 34% raise, and splurged a whole 3% of it on additional net imports.

There are sensible financial reasons to worry a modest amount about the trade deficit, about how sustainable it is and about the low domestic savings rate it reflects. That low domestic savings rate in recent years has mostly reflected a propensity of people to rely on price appreciation of stocks then real estate for their savings requirements, instead of ongoing large scale new investment. They have done fine that way, with US net work well over $50 trillion at this point. But in the long run, additional new savings are a more reliable way to future increases in our raging prosperity. The very low interest rates we have enjoyed in recent years are primarily responsible for both those strong asset prices, and the low savings rate. It is sensible to increase rates modestly to encourage additional savings and strengthen the dollar, and the Fed has been doing so, slowly but consistently, for two years.

Political misuse of economics is widespread and depends on fundamental ignorance of the actual processes and facts on the part of those addressed. Facts annihilate the gloom and doomers' misconceptions. They have been utterly wrong about absolutely everything for decades, in the case of Malthusian wage decline nonsense, literally two centuries. It never stops them from spouting the same silliness. But facts are even more stubborn than pigheaded ideology.

28 posted on 03/19/2006 6:36:47 AM PST by JasonC
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Who is this "na" character? Is he the guy who has his work published at CounterPunch.org?


36 posted on 03/19/2006 6:42:46 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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If outsourcing is of no real consequence, why are American lawyers or their clients paying $2,900 in fees plus hotel and travel expenses and two days billings to attend the Fourth National Conference on Outsourcing in Financial Services in Washington DC (April 20-21)?

I smell a class action suit.
71 posted on 03/19/2006 9:35:15 AM PST by uncitizen
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Outsourcing is shlock even Buffet was on CNBC today guffawing like a typical Freetrading sellout.


90 posted on 03/20/2006 4:07:23 PM PST by junta (It's Jihad stupid! Liberals, Jihadis and the Mexican elite all deserving of "preemption.")
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