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More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says
One News Now.com ^ | 2/22/07 | Jim Brown

Posted on 03/02/2007 5:18:13 AM PST by alienken

More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says Jim Brown

February 22, 2007

Illegal aliens are killing more Americans than the Iraq war, says a new report from Family Security Matters that estimates some 2,158 murders are committed every year by illegal aliens in the U.S. The group says that number is more than 15 percent of all the murders reported by the Federal Bureau of Investigation in the U.S. and about three times the representation of illegal aliens in the general population.

Mike Cutler, a former senior special agent with the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service (the former INS), is a fellow at the Center for Immigration Studies and an advisor to Family Security Matters (FSM). He says the high number of Americans being killed by illegal aliens is just part of the collateral damage that comes with tolerating illegal immigration.

"The military actually called for the BORTAC team, ... the elite unit of the Border Patrol, to be detailed to Iraq to help to secure the Iraqi border," Cutler notes. "Now, if our military can understand that Iraq's security depends in measure on the ability to protect its border against insurgents and terrorists, then why isn't our country similarly protecting our own borders?" he asks.

"We are now five and a half years, nearly, after 9/11, and yet our borders remain open," the Center for Immigration Studies fellow observes. "We have National Guardsmen assigned on the border, but it turns out they are unarmed," he points out. "Their rules of engagement are very simple: if armed intruders head your way, run in the other direction."

This situation would "almost be comical if it wasn't so tragic," Cutler asserts. "If our borders are wide open, this means that drugs, criminals, and terrorists are entering our country just as easily as the dishwashers," he says.

The report from FSM estimates that the 267,000 illegal aliens currently incarcerated in the nation are responsible for nearly 1,300,000 crimes, ranging from drug arrests to rape and murder. Such statistics, Cutler contends, debunk the claim that illegal immigration is a victimless crime. "Then we even have another problem," he adds, "and that's the Visa Waiver Program."

The federal government's Visa Waiver Program enables nationals of certain countries to travel to the United States for tourism or business for stays of 90 days or less without obtaining a visa. According to the U.S. State Department website, the waiver program was established in 1986 with the objective of "eliminating unnecessary barriers to travel," stimulating America's tourism industry, and allowing the government to focus consular resources in other areas.

Cutler says the U.S. retains the Visa Waiver Program because the nation's travel, tourism, and hospitality industries want America's borders wide open. In other words, the former INS official contends, the nation's security is being compromised in the name of trade.


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To: BohDaThone; All
I saw a study the other day that said 1st generation illegals are less likely to commit crimes (other than trespassing and drug running) than 2nd and 3rd gen. The study presumed the children of illegals, due to the way they must live their lives in the *shadows*, poverty, drugs and the American Hispanic gang culture, contributed to their propensity toward crime. The study was pro-illegal immigrant making excusses for their overall behavior. (sorry, no link)
41 posted on 03/02/2007 10:40:42 AM PST by wolfcreek
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To: BohDaThone; alienken

If you want to see the origin and the methodology of this "study", google "Mac Johnson"+"2158 murders"


42 posted on 03/02/2007 10:57:19 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: pandoraou812

Are they banana peppers? I love those fresh or pickled.


43 posted on 03/02/2007 3:36:44 PM PST by PrepareToLeave (Fight on Christian soldiers!)
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To: alienken

Wait! Wasn't there a study the other day that said illegals didn't have a high crime rate in America?


44 posted on 03/02/2007 3:38:17 PM PST by HungarianGypsy
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To: alienken

Worthless comparison. More people in the United States die by choking each year than are killed in the Iraq war too. So?


45 posted on 03/02/2007 3:39:39 PM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: PrepareToLeave

Yes, I grow them too. I never pickled them . I will look into that. Thanks ~P~


46 posted on 03/02/2007 3:40:23 PM PST by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: jocko12

You mean it REALLY is Bush's fault? : )


47 posted on 03/02/2007 3:41:46 PM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: wolfcreek
I saw a study the other day that said 1st generation illegals are less likely to commit crimes (other than trespassing and drug running) than 2nd and 3rd gen. The study presumed the children of illegals, due to the way they must live their lives in the *shadows*, poverty, drugs and the American Hispanic gang culture, contributed to their propensity toward crime. The study was pro-illegal immigrant making excusses for their overall behavior.

Sounds like a lot of BS. If they weren't here illegally they wouldn't have to 'live that way'.

48 posted on 03/06/2007 2:31:06 PM PST by Netizen (More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war 2,158 ea year - Center for Immigration Studies)
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To: TommyDale
No, when there is proof offered, they remain silent. It would require them to think for themselves, which they cannot do.

I see by the low volume of posts that you were right! :)

49 posted on 03/06/2007 2:31:54 PM PST by Netizen (More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war 2,158 ea year - Center for Immigration Studies)
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To: From One - Many

Hey, you are describing a bunch of US Senators.


50 posted on 03/06/2007 2:34:06 PM PST by Dante3
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To: alienken; DCPatriot

Last time this was brought to your attention, DCProfiteer, your response was "YAWN". Still feel your uber liberal attitude has no consequences for real Americans?


51 posted on 03/06/2007 2:34:39 PM PST by wtc911 (I would like at least to know his name...)
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To: Hydroshock

There is a freeper (a very active one) who derides any freeper who points this out. Of course this same freeper has acknowledged that he has employed illegals with a clear conscience.


52 posted on 03/06/2007 2:36:58 PM PST by wtc911 (I would like at least to know his name...)
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To: BohDaThone
When you start digging into the numbers the only ones that can be sourced with the feds are the number of American murdered in 2005: 16692
I have seen federal numbers for illegals held in jail ranging from 19.3% to 27% of the federal prison population. Here's a sampling of USA cities wanted for murder. What you'll see is that in big USA cities like LA or NYC most of the murder's are Hispanic. Unknown are the % of illegals. In smaller cities about 25% of the most wanted are illegals wanted for murder. This number agrees with the percentage of illegals incarcerated in federal prisons. +-25%

Pictures of top 10 most wanted in LA

Wanted for Murder in New York City.

Chicago wanted for Murder



New Orleans wanted for Murder



FBI USA 10 most wanted. (two of 10 are Mexican nationals

53 posted on 04/02/2007 10:45:58 AM PDT by ckilmer
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To: Dante3

Remember that machete incident a few years back...


54 posted on 04/02/2007 6:27:54 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * Allen for U.S. Senate for VA in '08 * Thompson/Hunter in '08)
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To: WV Mountain Mama
...I don't live in a border state or in an area with a high population of illegals.

Enjoy while it lasts. There will be some in your neighborhood before you realize it.

55 posted on 04/02/2007 6:34:13 PM PDT by lonestar (Me, too--Weinie)
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To: rabscuttle385

I sure do.


56 posted on 04/02/2007 6:35:39 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Shuck04
Its OK guys, this is a sacrifice McCain & Rudy are willing to accept!

Let's not forget one of the biggest culprits....Bush.
57 posted on 04/02/2007 6:35:42 PM PDT by rottndog (Mexico can go to Hell (Well actually, it already is--Ask the millions who have fled from there).)
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To: nnn0jeh

ping


58 posted on 04/02/2007 6:40:52 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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To: ckilmer
your direct links are helpful. Note , however: The first link shows, as you say, that 19% of those in FEDERAL custody are "noncitizens" (not all illegal). However, the vast majority of all prisoners are held in state and local cutody, and the same page shows all non-citizens at about 90,000 of 1.5 million total nationally are non-citizens, or about 6%.

This big difference is not surprising, as the feds concentrate on border, immmigration and smuggling violations, and not on local robberies, murders, etc. So the 6% is a better measure of the national proportion of crimes committed by aliens (legal and illegal).

59 posted on 04/04/2007 8:23:54 PM PDT by BohDaThone
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To: BohDaThone

I talk on the phone to the director of statistics for the bureau of prisons. He said that the prisons were not allowed to distinguish between legal aliens and illegal aliens. That’s why the category reads non-residents. The feds are working hard not to let the public know the true stats on illegal alien murders.

The other thing the director mentioned was that most of the violent offenders —ie murderers are NOT in the federal prisons. They’re in the state prisons. The federal prisons mostly house narco trafficers and such.

The true numbers could be pulled up from individual stories in newspapers by an intrepid reporter with the right search tools.


60 posted on 04/05/2007 8:08:51 AM PDT by ckilmer
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