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To: Fedora; Howlin; ravingnutter; piasa; Peach; Grampa Dave; pinz-n-needlez; canadianally; ScaniaBoy; ..

re the May 3, 2003 meeting of the "Senate Democratic Policy Committee" where Joe Wilson is known to have spoken on a panel about WMDs and the Iraq War:

There is something very suspicious and possibly incriminating about the FACT that the SDPC is trying to prevent people from knowing that Joe Wilson (and Valerie) were meeting with them more than 2 months before the supposed "outing" of Valerie....... I have long suspected that the facts that Joe and Valerie turned up here with senate Demagogues, that this led directly to Kristof's May 6, 2003 column, that the later Vanity Fair article referenced BOTH Joe and Valerie meeting with Kristof, and that all reference to the SDPC meeting was later deep-sixed from the SDPC website were highly significant when taken together.

Joe and Valerie were colluding unethically (and in Valerie's case probably ILLEGALLY) with the Demagogues right from the start.

How do we get at more info about the May 3, 2003 meeting of the SDPC? One very curious fact is that not only has it been deep-sixed from the SDPC website, but when you try to look for it in the history of the Internet Archives, the entire history of the site at the current URL stops at June 29, 2004. You can't find anything earlier than that on the "Internet Wayback" Machine.... yet we can be quite confident that the SDPC did not just create their website for the first time on June 29, 2004.

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://democrats.senate.gov/dpc/


THAT is probably just the date when they "sanitized" it and created a new URL???

I could be wrong of course, it's POSSIBLE that (1) the website with that URL was only created for the first time on June 29, 2004, or (2) the URL was changed but for innocent reasons (maybe a re-organization of the server, etc.).

YET, consider that virtually everyone with a website, especially a group concerned with reaching and influencing the public as is the case for the SDPC, does not normally want to minimize access to their website (make it harder to find, etc.) -- there may be something very suspicious about (1) the fact that the May 3, 2003 meeting of the SDPC does not appear anywhere on their website, and (2) that it does not seem possible to find earlier incarnations of that website than June 29, 2004.


http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://democrats.senate.gov/dpc/

Can any freeper with better web research skills figure out (1) whether there are earlier versions of the SDPC website, probably at some different URL?? (2) is there a version closer to May 3, 2003 that can show Joe was listed on the panel for that meeting?

If indeed there is such a version, closer to May 3, 2003 and showing Joe Wilson as a panelist, it would indeed be a most "interesting" fact that the SDPC had deep-sixed that fact from history, and that no so-called "journalists" (if there are any anymore) have tracked down the basis for this cover-up of collusion between the Demagogues and Joe/Valerie.


58 posted on 03/17/2007 3:30:50 PM PDT by Enchante (Joe Wilson: "DUH...What do you mean there is uranium smuggling from DR Congo?")
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To: Enchante

"How do we get at more info about the May 3, 2003 meeting of the SDPC? One very curious fact is that not only has it been deep-sixed from the SDPC website, but when you try to look for it in the history of the Internet Archives, the entire history of the site at the current URL stops at June 29, 2004. You can't find anything earlier than that on the "Internet Wayback" Machine.... yet we can be quite confident that the SDPC did not just create their website for the first time on June 29, 2004."

Just going from memory here, when I first posted about the SDPC meeting, the site listed things both after AND before that date.

So if the earlier things are now gone, I suspect it is to make it seem more harmless that the May 2nd meeting is gone.

BTW, as I know you know, just year and half later, the SDPC had a couple of the VIPS squad before them, testifying about what a treasonous act the leaking of Plame's employment was:

DPC Hearings
http://democrats.senate.gov/dpc/dpc-hearing.cfm?A=5


59 posted on 03/17/2007 3:43:10 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Enchante

They do still list a hearing from January 6, 2003.

DPC Hearings
http://democrats.senate.gov/dpc/dpc-hearing.cfm?A=all


62 posted on 03/17/2007 4:02:11 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Enchante; Sam Hill
Search engines are only as good as the data one adds/deletes from them.
They probably simply deleted all the info in given servers's search engine record database, either by permission from a given ISP, and or by asking people at given sites (DNS server) sites to do so.
Sam. Thanks for the time sequences. You both have obviously did much homework over a period of time to not allow this issue to fall through the cracks.
63 posted on 03/17/2007 4:02:54 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle
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To: Enchante; Sam Hill
I don't know if it is relevent or not but in May 2003 Wilson spoke with Chris Lehane.

At the end of June 2004, Chris Lehane was in the news again in connection with his getting a brand new job from Michael Moore, just back from the Cannes Film festival in Paris, which was preceded by the untimely decapitation of Nick Berg who had some ties with Moore's cameraman and of course, had been working in the vicinity of Abu Ghraib, and by the 60 Minutes Abu Ghraibh panty raid story. Some speculated Lehane was hired for damage control, but his hiring corresponded to valerie Plame going on unpaid leave from the CIA.

68 posted on 03/17/2007 6:24:40 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: Enchante; kcvl; Rheo

Did you see this, kc and rheo.... I truly believe you two can track down anything that is out there. ;-)


80 posted on 03/17/2007 9:14:39 PM PDT by pinz-n-needlez (Jack Bauer wears Tony Snow pajamas)
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