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Are Ron Paul Supporters Real?
Blogger News Network ^ | November 7, 2007

Posted on 11/07/2007 5:54:10 AM PST by theothercheek

Second-tier presidential candidate Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) pulled off a first-rate fundraising coup, netting $4.3 million in online contributions from 38,000 donors in a single day, bringing his total haul to $7.3 million in 4Q 2007. No other Republican comes close to Paul’s 24-hour feat, but Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) has him beat at $6.2 million.

Paul supporters flashed their cash in honor of Guy Fawkes Day, which commemorates the would-be assassin of England’s King James I on Nov. 5, 1605. Guy Fawkes was also the inspiration the novel-turned-movie "V for Vendetta," in which the lead character takes on a fascist government in England. In several GOP presidential debates, the libertarian Paul has all-but called George W. Bush a fascist – taking issue with the Administration’s policies on domestic spying, for instance.

So does this mean Paul has a shot at the nomination? In a word: Nah. The Stiletto agrees with WaPo political blogger Chris Cillizza’s: take:

Paul was widely seen as a political gadlfy when he entered the race, but through skill, luck or a little of both he has built himself into an Internet phenomenon. …

It's not yet clear that Paul's online national community can deliver actual votes for him. … While Paul is at the center of a national movement, it won't help him in Iowa or New Hampshire if thousands of people from California or Illinois are backing him. …

There has always been a pot of money that exists for unconventional candidates who believe the system is fundamentally broken and are only tangentially affiliated with a party. …

[H]is money and his message make him a actor in New Hampshire ... he remains a decided longshot ... the excitement and attention he is drawing would seem to be a perfect lead up to a third party candidacy if and when he loses the Republican nomination.

The Houston Chronicle reports that Jonathan Bydlak, the Paul campaign’s fundraising director posted a message on the candidate's Web site that the ka-ching means just one thing: “Ron Paul is for real." Maybe. But it appears his supporters are real (second item).

Note: The Stiletto writes about politics and other stuff at The Stiletto Blog.


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KEYWORDS: 2008election; 911truth; campaignfundraising; libertarian; paulbots; ronpaul; thestiletto; thestilettoblog
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To: mvpel
Of course the federal government messed it up. That's just what they do.

...so consistantly, it's almost scary. The only thing the government is good at is killing people and breaking things.

181 posted on 11/07/2007 11:45:18 AM PST by zeugma (Ubuntu - Linux for human beings)
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To: Petronski
Spare me the L.Ron Blame America First litany. I've heard it many times before.

So are you saying that it's irrational for Iranians to be pissed off that America and the CIA shoved the Shah down their throats? Or that it didn't actually happen at all?

182 posted on 11/07/2007 11:46:33 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: ksen
I have no problem that Ron Paul would defend us AFTER something happens. I have said that before.

But “after” in 2007 is not the same as “after” circa 1789...

We have to be a bit more aggressive in our defense than you boys seem to realize or want to acknowledge

183 posted on 11/07/2007 11:46:38 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Real voters in real voting booths will elect FDT.)
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To: mvpel

Their anti-American attitude is explained in two words: radical Islam.


184 posted on 11/07/2007 11:48:40 AM PST by Petronski ("Willard, you can’t buy South Carolina. You can’t even rent it.”)
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To: ejonesie22
We have to be a bit more aggressive in our defense than you boys seem to realize or want to acknowledge

While steadfastly ignoring the underlying reasons for the need for that defense? What if we had the same relationship with Iran as we had with Canada - they sell us their oil and look down their noses at us, and otherwise we leave each other alone?

185 posted on 11/07/2007 11:56:02 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Petronski
Their anti-American attitude is explained in two words: radical Islam.

And why is it radicalized? Why did the radicals come into power and widespread influence?

186 posted on 11/07/2007 11:58:26 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: George W. Bush
Right.

I give up.

I'll put back all the books I studied as a Military History major and years of keeping track of Military tactics and technology and surrender as it were to you Paul supporters. You guys like that anyways.....

Oh, but a few questions.

Is Iran an industrialized nation or a terrorist state?

How about Pakistan, I mean they have Nukes as has been acknowledged on this very thread. They are stable now, so I don't know. Teach me what all that means...

Oh and can terrorist steal nukes?

Also you say we will respond, which I hope we do, but can you find any cities to volunteer to be the one blasted by a nuke we could have prevented if we had take an aggressive stance? It could save some paper work and planning on Iran's or whomever part...

I am sure an expert with your level of knowledge has those answers so you can enlighten me...

(BTW the irony of your post is the number of times I have had to explain that the total disregard for their own lives is what causes the concept of Mutually Assured Destruction to not be applicable to containing the nukes if Iran goes hot and why only an aggressive solution will do)

187 posted on 11/07/2007 11:58:28 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Real voters in real voting booths will elect FDT.)
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To: mvpel

Wow, the guy who said the extreme right and extreme left go so far out they met was dead on...


188 posted on 11/07/2007 12:00:17 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Real voters in real voting booths will elect FDT.)
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To: ejonesie22
Also you say we will respond, which I hope we do, but can you find any cities to volunteer to be the one blasted by a nuke we could have prevented if we had take an aggressive stance? It could save some paper work and planning on Iran's or whomever part...

What about a nuke that we could have prevented by NOT taking an aggressive stance, by not stomping around the world in combat boots decade after decade, by opening trade and cultural relations with other nations instead of military bases?

Or do you deny that possibility?

189 posted on 11/07/2007 12:02:00 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: mvpel
Oh brother..

Yes, yes, we are a terrible empire, yada, yada, yada...

There really isn’t one whits difference between you guys and the left, save a few libertarian stances...

190 posted on 11/07/2007 12:14:02 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Real voters in real voting booths will elect FDT.)
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To: ejonesie22
Yes, yes, we are a terrible empire, yada, yada, yada...

Care to discuss the issue rationally, instead of just rolling your eyes at the undisputed fact that the "Ugly American" has a basis in reality and history?

191 posted on 11/07/2007 12:25:37 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: ejonesie22
I'll put back all the books I studied as a Military History major and years of keeping track of Military tactics and technology and surrender as it were to you Paul supporters.

Can you share with us your experience and education on the military concept of "blowback?"

192 posted on 11/07/2007 12:28:33 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: mvpel
Actually no, I have spent enough time arguing with blame America hacks...

We’ll keep you safe though...

193 posted on 11/07/2007 12:29:43 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Real voters in real voting booths will elect FDT.)
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To: mvpel
The tasty Kool Aid
194 posted on 11/07/2007 12:30:30 PM PST by 1_Inch_Group (Country Before Party)
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To: 1_Inch_Group

Tastes better than the “ignore history” Kool-Aid, I reckon.


195 posted on 11/07/2007 12:31:35 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: ejonesie22
Actually no, I have spent enough time arguing with blame America hacks...

We’ll keep you safe though...

By continuing to provoke the Iranian government and alienate the people of Iran? How's that work?

196 posted on 11/07/2007 12:32:22 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: mvpel

It’s the nature of the beast. T’was ever thus.


197 posted on 11/07/2007 12:34:09 PM PST by Petronski ("Willard, you can’t buy South Carolina. You can’t even rent it.”)
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To: mvpel

Like I said, I am done with the “blame America first” crowd...

For now...


198 posted on 11/07/2007 12:34:23 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Real voters in real voting booths will elect FDT.)
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To: mvpel
Damn you had to do it.

You guys kill me. Your other buddy is complaining about the money being pout forth to help the Iranians and maybe foster more internal efforts to overthrow the fundamentalist, then next thing we are antagonizing an enemy, which is a bad thing to you guys.

BTW, check the statements coming from the Iranian government for the definition of provocation...

Damn, just damn...

199 posted on 11/07/2007 12:37:52 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Real voters in real voting booths will elect FDT.)
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To: ejonesie22
Do you read the posts you are supposedly responding to or do you just randomly pick one of your standard responses to use as a reply?
200 posted on 11/07/2007 12:40:20 PM PST by ksen ("For an omniscient and omnipotent God, there are no Plan B's" - Frumanchu)
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