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Pfleger to church: "You are going to have to have the balls to fire me" (2002)
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | February 24, 2002 | Dave Newbart

Posted on 06/02/2008 11:51:37 AM PDT by prolifefirst

A defiant Rev. Michael Pfleger on Saturday dared the Chicago archdiocese to kick him out of the Catholic Church, telling a crowd of 400 people on the South Side, "I am not quitting." "You are going to have to have the balls to fire me," Pfleger said, sending a message to church leaders. "If you want to fire me, fire me."

Pfleger made his remarks at a conference on the legacy of slavery. The mostly black audience gave him a standing ovation.

His comments came after he told how a Catholic vicar, Bishop Joseph Perry, visited his St. Sabina Church and left a message saying that Pfleger should leave to start his own church, which the Sun-Times reported Friday. The "bishop came to St. Sabina and said [I should] quit so as not to disrupt the Catholic Church," Pfleger said. "I find it very difficult not to take it personally when the bishop tells me to leave."

Asked later whether he thought the church would fire him, Pfleger said, "I don't know. If that's what they want, then that's what they'll do."

Archdiocese spokesman Jim Dwyer said Saturday night that the archdiocese had no plans to oust Pfleger.

"Nobody is trying to fire him," Dwyer said. As for Pfleger's remarks, "We are not going to respond to something until we have talked to him."

Dwyer said he could not confirm Bishop Perry's remarks, but he noted that Perry and Pfleger have not spoken directly about Pfleger's future.

Two weeks ago, Pfleger announced that Cardinal Francis George had told him that he could not stay on as pastor at St. Sabina, the predominantly African-American church where he has served for 18 years, because of church rules limiting the tenure of priests. But later George agreed to extend Pfleger's term by a few years while a search for a successor is conducted.

Pfleger told the crowd at Gwendolyn Brooks College Prep Academy that the tenure issue is a smokescreen. "It's not about tenure, it's not about terms, it's not about church rule or policy," he said.

Pfleger, who is white, said the real issue is how poorly Catholic leaders treat blacks.

"We want African-American culture to be embraced completely on equal grounds, and not just tolerated," he said. "We want the Catholic Church to understand what Nat Turner tried to make America understand: The slaves aren't happy being slaves. We are not just going to be satisfied being on the fringe."

Pfleger said the cardinal had declined to meet with the entire 21-member leadership cabinet of St. Sabina, which wants Pfleger to stay.

Last summer, Pfleger was at the center of a months-long controversy when he accused the Southside Catholic Conference athletic league of racism after the largely white league voted against admitting all-black St. Sabina. He said Saturday that he was later told by a church official that he had given the church a "black eye," and that he should not use the word "racist" when talking about the incident.

"I resented we were being blamed for an incident that the white Southwest Side did," Pfleger said. "Everybody wants to say there is racism, but no one wants to say there are racists."

The Rev. Jeremiah Wright, pastor of Trinity United Church of Christ, which organized the conference, said he wrote George a letter supporting Pfleger.

"The cardinal should let him stay despite what the rules say," Wright said.

Copyright 2002 Chicago Sun-Times, Inc


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1 posted on 06/02/2008 11:51:39 AM PDT by prolifefirst
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To: prolifefirst

Such a godly man using godly language.


2 posted on 06/02/2008 11:53:01 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: prolifefirst

We all now know who has the balls in the Chicago Archdiocese, if it’s between the Cardinal and the heretic pastor.


3 posted on 06/02/2008 11:53:54 AM PDT by prolifefirst
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To: prolifefirst
Since the Catholic church has an all male herarchy there should be no problem there.

“You are going to have to have the balls to fire me”

4 posted on 06/02/2008 11:54:25 AM PDT by DManA
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Great Balls of Fire! Your Fired! There. Pressed the “Easy” Button. LoL


5 posted on 06/02/2008 11:56:08 AM PDT by cameraeye (The Lords Prayer on Obama's Lips? Where's the video?)
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To: prolifefirst
We are not just going to be satisfied being on the fringe...

These folks are way past "the fringe".

6 posted on 06/02/2008 11:56:11 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The democRATS are near the tipping point.)
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To: prolifefirst

I am Catholic, and I think this priest is meshugener.

Oy!


7 posted on 06/02/2008 11:56:19 AM PDT by RexBeach
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To: prolifefirst

I just talk black; the equipment is still white!


8 posted on 06/02/2008 11:57:32 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus (( commander of the simian host))
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Joke from my 1 1/2 years in the seminary at Notre Dame:

How are a priest and a Christmas tree alike?

In both cases, their balls are ornamental.


9 posted on 06/02/2008 11:58:22 AM PDT by prolifefirst
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Well, given the current state of the See, I expect the Church to kiss his ass rather than do anything concrete like that which I would do.

If he is so concerned about helping poor blacks, then send him to Kenya.


10 posted on 06/02/2008 12:00:08 PM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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Cardinal George’s equipment is clearly ornamental.


11 posted on 06/02/2008 12:00:49 PM PDT by prolifefirst
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To: prolifefirst
Just once ... I'd like to see the Pope come out with a press release ..

"Pfleger, you're FIRED."

12 posted on 06/02/2008 12:02:07 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Party ahead of principles; eventually you'll be selling out anything to anyone for the right price.)
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To: prolifefirst

Obviously this priest does not take his vows of obedience seriously. He should be defrocked for that alone.


13 posted on 06/02/2008 12:02:44 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: prolifefirst

Find out if he’s a Knight of Columbus and expel him if he is. I’m sick of coddling these a-holes.


14 posted on 06/02/2008 12:03:31 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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Best joke from seminary:

One of the guys in charge of us first year seminarians was a priest who played the organ at our services.

In planning for the Holloween party a geek seminarian cluelessly said:

“I’m going to go as Peter’s organ.”


15 posted on 06/02/2008 12:05:18 PM PDT by prolifefirst
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To: prolifefirst

This guy is a bigger snake than anything that’s ever been handled in a primitive backwoods Appalachian church.


16 posted on 06/02/2008 12:05:27 PM PDT by Rebelbase (McCain: The Third Bush Term ?)
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To: prolifefirst
A defiant Rev. Michael Pfleger on Saturday dared the Chicago archdiocese to kick him out of the Catholic Church, telling a crowd of 400 people on the South Side, "I am not quitting." "You are going to have to have the balls to fire me," Pfleger said, sending a message to church leaders. "If you want to fire me, fire me."

Well? Does the bishop have them? If so, he needs to use them.

17 posted on 06/02/2008 12:07:58 PM PDT by al_c (Avoid the consequences of erudite vernacular utilized irrespective of necessity)
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"No Daddy! Don't let them F n Honkies run you out! "


18 posted on 06/02/2008 12:08:44 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: prolifefirst

An awful lot of “I” and “me” in this Pfleger. An awful lot of rebellion, too. I’m beginning to question whether he’s even Christian, let alone a Catholic priest.


19 posted on 06/02/2008 12:11:35 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: prolifefirst
"We want African-American culture to be embraced completely on equal grounds, and not just tolerated,"

I thought the Catholic church was about Jesus.......mine is. Pfleger has lost touch with his true mission.....so fire him already.

20 posted on 06/02/2008 12:14:15 PM PDT by tioga
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