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To: Alamo-Girl; TXnMA; betty boop
" Er, if I may, when a Christian perceives there is a conflict between God's revelation in Scripture v. Creation he must realize that the problem is his own, not God's. There is something he does not know and perhaps is prohibited from knowing." [excerpt]
Ah, but the problem comes in when Creation is interpreted so that in conforms to a preconceived idea who's origin is atheistic in nature.

Also, a tidbit about 1st Timothy 6:20 can be found here:
Arguments we think creationists should NOT use
(Search for "1 Timothy 6:20 (KJV)", but without the quotes.)


I actually have 3 of the Marantha CD's. (8, 11 and 14)
Excellent music!
73 posted on 06/30/2008 12:18:09 PM PDT by Fichori (Primitive goat herder.)
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To: Fichori; betty boop; TXnMA; hosepipe; tricky_k_1972
Ah, but the problem comes in when Creation is interpreted so that in conforms to a preconceived idea who's origin is atheistic in nature.

This is directly related to the "observer problem." We don't all see with the same eyes, hear with the same ears and understand with the same mind. And we each travel our own worldline through space and time.

Truly, only those who have God's gift of "ears to hear" can hear Him. The people Jesus is addressing in the following passage were physically hearing Him (pressure, sound waves) but they could not Spiritually hear Him.

Why do ye not understand my speech? [even] because ye cannot hear my word. - John 8:43

But we hear Him.

My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: - John 10:27

That an atheist's entire concept of reality is based on his physical senses should not be surprising to us. True atheists do not have Spiritual perception.

Nor should we be surprised when the atheist looks to science for authentication of his beliefs. It's the closest thing to an "authority" he has for all things physical.

After all, science accepts that it cannot measure God and proceeds under the assumption that nature is predictable and knowable (methodological naturalism.) If miracles could be reproduced in a laboratory or consistently observed, they wouldn't be called miracles.

However - a big however - I take umbrage with those atheists who use their positions of authority or credentials within the science community as a platform for their anti-God propaganda. These would include Dawkins, Pinker, Singer and Lewontin.

Those are the ones who try to intimidate the young and weak in faith. But they cannot prevail.

For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. – Romans 8:38-39

The worst place a person can be is standing between God and one of His adopted children.

Marantha, Jesus!

101 posted on 06/30/2008 10:58:10 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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