Blogger admits Hawaii birth certificate forgery, subverting Obama claims (Uh-oh)

Israel Insider ^ | 3 July 2008 | Reuven Koret

[Brown Deer]

By Shailagh Murray
FORT WORTH -- Sen. Barack Obama's campaign announced he would co-sponsor legislation introduced yesterday by his political ally Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) to ensure that John McCain can become president, even though he was born in the Panama Canal Zone.

The issue of McCain's eligibility was raised in a New York Times article noting the constitutional requirement that a U.S. president be a "natural-born citizen" had never been fully defined.

The McCaskill bill, submitted immediately after she scrawled it onto a notepad on the Senate floor in response to the Times story, would establish the eligibility of anyone born to a U.S. citizen who is serving overseas as an active or reserve member of the U.S. armed forces. The Arizona senator's father was a Navy officer serving in the Canal Zone when McCain was born there in 1936.

"Senator McCain has earned the right to be his party's nominee, and no loophole should prevent him from competing in this campaign," Obama said.

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TITLE 8, CHAPTER 12, SUBCHAPTER III, Part I

§ 1401. Nationals and citizens of United States at birth

The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:

(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;

(b) a person born in the United States to a member of an Indian, Eskimo, Aleutian, or other aboriginal tribe: Provided, That the granting of citizenship under this subsection shall not in any manner impair or otherwise affect the right of such person to tribal or other property;

(c) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom are citizens of the United States and one of whom has had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, prior to the birth of such person;

(d) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of such person, and the other of whom is a national, but not a citizen of the United States;

(e) a person born in an outlying possession of the United States of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year at any time prior to the birth of such person;

(f) a person of unknown parentage found in the United States while under the age of five years, until shown, prior to his attaining the age of twenty-one years, not to have been born in the United States;

(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 288 of title 22 by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person

>>>>> (A) honorably serving with the Armed Forces of the United States, or

>>>>> (B) employed by the United States Government or an international organization as defined in section 288 of title 22, may be included in order to satisfy the physical-presence requirement of this paragraph. This proviso shall be applicable to persons born on or after December 24, 1952, to the same extent as if it had become effective in its present form on that date; and

(h) a person born before noon (Eastern Standard Time) May 24, 1934, outside the limits and jurisdiction of the United States of an alien father and a mother who is a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, had resided in the United States.

[Iowan]

Link to article:http://israelinsider.ning.com/
Not much of the article remains, the reasons on the site are stated by the author Reuven Koret

(Excerpted
Israel Insider had been running a series of articles exploring the vagaries of Barack Obama’s birth, and his concealed documentation, and this was the jumping off point of the email, which confirmed the claim that Obama was not born in Hawaii, that

“Mossad are going with Mombasa” but “Proving Mombasa is not so easy, as NSIS in Nairobi are clamming up tight,

as are MI6 in London,

who have the original Mombasa file and full details of the birth.”

Obama has also stated he had a dual citizenship...Kenya and Hawaii.Why aren’t the journalists trying to follow that trail??

His own Kenyan aunt has stated she was there at his birth, at a Mombassa hospital.

There are way too many discrepancies right now for us to believe a Hawaiian birth. So many lies are being sold to the American people.

[Brown Deer]

In contrast we have statements (but not sworn testimony) in front of cameras by the Governor of Hawaii that she saw Obama's original birth certificate.

Even if she did say that in front of cameras, which I've never seen (where's the link to the video?), how is that in contrast? So what if she's seen the original birth certificate? It doesn't mean that 0bomba was born in Hawaii.

[Chief Engineer]

There are no statements that Gov. Lingle has ever seen Jr’s original birth documents, in fact quite the opposite. The head of the Dept of Health in HI said she has checked that documents are on file for Jr. but that Gov. Lingle has not, nor will she see the files! The word was originally posted that Gov. Lingle had ordered the files sealed but that was incorrect!(story appeared in World Net Daily) Even the story about the Dept of Health confirming Jr was born in HI was false! The first sentence in the article was written by a reporter but was not what the head of the Dept said! It was a sneaky case of semantics when the head of the Dept confirmed there were records on file with the HI Dept of Health. She did NOT say that the records confirm Jr was born in HI! In accordance with the Dept of Health at the time when Jr was born, he could have been born off island but have been given a HI birth certificate if he was registered and it was confirmed his mother was a resident of the island.
On the point of Sara (Obama’s step grandmother) saying she and some of his family were present during his birth in Kenya, that story originally appeared at the website
USAfricaonline and was posted by a Freeper here, the same website on which the “Kenyan born” graphic appeared. Once the link was posted people began going to it only to discover that suddenly the “linky no worky”. A few minutes later the link once again worked but the story had been reworded to remove any mention of Sara’s testimony! Now the only thing to be found at the link is the “Kenyan born” graphic. The original post with the story appeared at Free Republic back in April or May. This is not the first incidence of a website suddenly being scrubbed nor will it be the last! I am sure over the next four years many websites will go under on one pretense or another, while journalists practise their sloppy journalism! As a case in point take a look at the story published by “The Honolulu Advertiser” regarding the birth announcement address. They didn’t even print the correct date under their scan of the page where the birth announcement appeared!

Barack Obama: Born in Hawaii
Sunday, November 09, 2008 06:41:06 PM · 373 of 375
AndrewWalden to Chief Engineer
Then explain the address in the birth announcement of 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy.

Read this:
http://m.honoluluadvertiser.com/detail.jsp?key=141105&rc=lo&full=1

There are more problems with their story which I won’t even go into at the moment, but you can read my rebuttal below that post.
Many dedicated Freepers have spent hours on different parts of the Obama story and Polarik shared his work on seperate blogs and here at FR. At one time the scans of the C.O.L.B. were bigger with much more clarity but were reduced in size. The same can be said of the photos at Factcheck. Polarik has written about the images at all the spots and had to recheck once Factcheck posted new images August 21 (after Jr came back from a visit to Hawaii!) You need to do your homework before you start criticising!

[Iowan]

Thank you for posting this.

[Calpernia]

It was on Hawaii’s KGMB news. I’ve got the text of the quote posted here under Philip Berg’s video if you want to see what Director Chiyome Fukino said.

http://blog.barofintegrity.us/2008/11/01/barack-nate-dhalani.aspx
Barack Nate Dhalani

[Gemsbok]

You forgot the missing Department of Education Kindergarten Records from the State of Hawaii. Who hides their Kindergarten records unless to conceal the attached BC containing name, age and place of birth?

There is simply no good reason and Hillary knows it because that is why the primary candidate Obama quipped on the campaign trail, “Folks, are even searching my kindergarten records.” and he laughed.

Obviously they had been scrubbed, bought, and buried long before Hillary’s team flew to Hawaii!

FRAUD....FRAUD...FRAUD...FRAUD....

[Brown Deer]

Yes, I’ve seen all of that, but palmer claims that there are videos of Governor Lingle making these statements.

[Calpernia]

Oh, the kindergarten records are with his secret decoder ring :)

To all of you on email lists outside of the freepmail, be careful. There is a trojan being sent around. I’m working with someone in Hawaii trying to get the latest infection out of the machine.

From the latest work on this virus today, Symantic techs said they can’t fix it. I recommend everyone to scan their systems daily:

http://housecall.trendmicro.com

Night!

[LucyT]

Palmer, since you insist on being in the fray, won't you please read all the way to the end of this thread, then go back to 2000 and read the remainder if it. It does no good to squabble, if we are all on the same side. Where do you stand on this issue? What exactly are you trying to prove? Who are you defending?

[Calpernia]

Yes, it was on KGMB news. The link to that station is hyperlinked. I didn’t see the broadcast; but I think BigLook saw it. He is having some computer trouble right now; but if you send him a freepmail, when he is back on, maybe he can confirm it.

[Chief Engineer]

I had posted a query to Andrew Walden earlier today before RubyR brought to my attention the birth announcement article in “The Honolulu Advertiser” I will enclose C&P from that thread and then my rebuttal!
First the ping from Andrew Walden which includes a link to the article, followed by my rebuttal!

Barack Obama: Born in Hawaii
Sunday, November 09, 2008 06:41:06 PM · 373 of 375
AndrewWalden to Chief Engineer
Then explain the address in the birth announcement of 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy.

Read this:
http://m.honoluluadvertiser.com/detail.jsp?key=141105&rc=lo&full=1

And my rebuttal
November 09, 2008 07:16:42 PM · 375 of 375
Chief Engineer to AndrewWalden; LucyT; Fred Nerks; BIGLOOK; RubyR
I have read the article in “The Honolulu Advertiser” and may I take this time to point out the inconsistencies of their narrative. First off they provide a scan of the page in which the birth announcement appears and then incorrectly state it was the August 17th 1961 edition when it actually appeared in the Sunday, August 13th, 1961 edition. Taking the address at face value they failed to read Jr’s own words which appear in “Dreams of My Father” which appear on page 39 during his father’s 1971 visit to Oahu. Quoting directly “...we went on short walks past the private landmarks of a family...including my grandparents’ first house in Hawaii, before the one on University Ave., a house I had never known.” The house on Kalanianaole Hwy is 7 miles from the apartment on Beretania St. and with a father using a cane recuperating from a car accident in which he had injured his leg it would be impossible to walk 14 miles to view a house which “The Honolulu Advertiser” claims was the first home which the Dunhams lived in when they moved to Oahu! The house Jr is referring to in “Dreams of My Father” would be the house at 2277 Kamehameha Ave. which is within a mile of the University and within walking distance of the apartment on Beretania St. Also the address at Kalanianaole Hwy would contradict Rep. Neil Abercrombie as well who has often mentioned that he lives near where the Dunhams lived on Beretania St and would often see Stanley with Barry while Barry was growing up. “The Honolulu Advertiser” failed to do their basic research about the address which appeared in the birth announcement, simply running with the story. “The Honolulu Advertiser” also tries to say that Ann and Jr spent their entire time in Hawaii until Ann’s marriage to Lolo and the move to Indonesia, completely ignoring the time Ann and Jr spent in WA state from August 1961 until sometime in 1963. See the following link:
http://www.christianfaithandreason.com/obama.html

Not forgetting that we already know that Ann attended University of Washington for the three semesters beginning in August 1961.

IMO “The Honolulu Advertiser” has simply run with a story for which they did no research especially when they state that the Dunham family lived in the home on Kalanianaole Hwy(going from the address on a birth announcement), completely disregarding Jr’s own words about the first home the family lived in when they moved to Hawaii being within walking distance of Beretania St.! They also disregard the words of Rep Neil Abercrombie who has testified that he often saw Stanley and little Barry going for walks etc. They can’t have it both ways and neither can Obama!

[Brown Deer]

We are a loosely associated group of independent CONSERVATIVE grassroots activists working together to expose government corruption, abuse, tyranny, unconstitutional expansion, or trampling on our rights, freedoms or liberty and it is our express intention to freely do this unimpeded and unrestricted by government or liberal intruders. DO NOT TREAD ON US!

If you don't support or agree with the work that has been done by the FReepers in this thread, then maybe you should stop hindering their progress, by continuing to defend the fraudulent BC.

Might I suggest that from here on out, we ignore any further postings from palmer in this matter and focus our attention to something more meaningful? I myself cannot wait to see Polarik's Part II report that will hopefully be published tomorrow!

[justiceseeker93]

In contrast we have statements (but not sworn testimony) in front of cameras by the governor of Hawaii that she saw Obama's original birth certificate.

As I and others have posted elsewhere, there is a provision in the Hawaii state statutes that would enable any Hawaii resident to obtain a birth certificate for a child born out of state after the child is born. It is therefore surely within the realm of possiblity that baby Barry's mother or maternal grandparents obtained a Hawaii birth certificate in Hawaii for him days after his birth in Kenya. Such a birth certificate, under such scenario, should indicate his birthplace in Kenya if bona fide. Notice that Gov. Lingle and her Hawaii bureaucrat lackey were totally mum on the information contained on the BC they purportedly saw and announced their intention not to release it to the public.

[Brown Deer]

"It's feasible the couple occupied the back cottage at 6085 Kalaniana'ole. Public records from the time show that Barack H. Obama, 25, also had a residence at 625 11th Ave. in Kaimuki.

Since those records show that Obama Sr. had the 11th Avenue dwelling at the same time he and his wife were living on Kalanianaole Highway, its possible the young Barack also visited that residence. "

How could a poor foreign student with another family to support back home in Kenya, possibly afford two houses in an expensive place like Hawaii?

[Chief Engineer]

The way the story is written the home in the birth announcement was occupied by the Dunhams with the possibility that Ann and Sr lived in the small cottage at the back of the property. I have already pointed out that Jr wrote about the house which his grandparents had lived in which was within walking distance of Beretania Street. Neil Abercrombie also testified he lives not far from Beretania Street and often witnessed Stanley with Barry as Barry was growing up. “The Honolulu Advertiser” failed to do adequate research or they would have discovered what Jr had written. This also shows how fortunate Jr is that no one who is alive can deny the story about the residence of the “newly weds”.

[Gemsbok]

IGNORE PALMER?
I agree.
He needs to do his own reading prior to asking questions that have already been answered months ago and/or planting false assumptions.

[palmer]

So what if she's seen the original birth certificate? It doesn't mean that 0bomba was born in Hawaii.

I don't know if she's seen the certificate, haven't found any videos of her saying she has. Just this from the Honolulu Advertiser:
Lingle never sealed anything. And the state Registrar of Vital Statistics has verified to The Advertiser, through the governor's office, that the original, official birth certificate is on file

That's pretty vague, and certainly doesn't say the governor looked at the thing.

[palmer]

Where do you stand on this issue? What exactly are you trying to prove? Who are you defending?

I've shown that Polarik was wrong about the border, specifically in post 42 in his thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2123682/posts?page=42#42 compared to the border here: http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_5.jpg (they are the same)

In the same post 42, Polarik claimed:
Once they shot the printout, they superimposed the Seal over the photo and used Photoshop to create various lighting effects to make the Seal stand out.
which I pointed out time after time was not possible. Finally by post 68 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2123682/posts?page=68#68 he admits:
The printout was embossed. Very easy to do with even a straight pin, ballpoint pen, or a regular engraver.

But it is certainly not easy to create an embossing with a pin or pen, although I said (many many times) that a forger could steal or create an embosser.

It is my effort that improved Polarik's efforts, no longer could he ignore that fact the factcheck documents were created differently (not just with photoshop, but requiring an actual seal pressed on a real piece of paper. I will repeat again, a forger could steal or create such a sealer, no doubt about it. But any analysis of a potential forgery must start with that the fact that the seal was created in reality not in photoshop.

Hopefully you can see that I am defending reality, not some person or party or political principle. I believe that this issue has been a major distraction and 6000 posts over 4 months could have produced a lot better quality work than it did.

[palmer]

If you don't support or agree with the work that has been done by the FReepers in this thread, then maybe you should stop hindering their progress, by continuing to defend the fraudulent BC.

I am defending reality, and will keep critiquing any work that doesn't jive with reality (see my previous posts for examples).

Might I suggest that from here on out, we ignore any further postings from palmer in this matter and focus our attention to something more meaningful? I myself cannot wait to see Polarik's Part II report that will hopefully be published tomorrow!

Please do, I have repeated over and over the same facts: that the factcheck certificate was created using a real embosser (and rubber stamp) on a real piece of paper. Now finally Polarik seems to have accepted that truth. But it is pretty tiring getting attacked for pointing out the truth, so if those attackers want to cease responding, I encourage them to do so.