Posted on 07/03/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by SE Mom
Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.
The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider's revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the detective work of independent investigative journalists and imaging professionals in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate the Daily Kos, an extreme left blog site, and the Obama campaign, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance.
The perceived unreliability of the image has provoked petitions and widespread demands for Obama to submit for objective inspection the paper versions of the "birth certificate" he claimed in his book Dreams from My Father was in his possession, as well as the paper version of the Certificate of Live Birth for which the image on the Daily Kos and the Obama "Fight the Smears" website was supposedly generated.
Without a valid birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he fulfills the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President.
McKinnon, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called OpenDNA.com and uses the OpenDNA screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos. In recent years he has divided his time between Long Beach, California and Vancouver, British Columbia. He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter.
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YIKES!
Fake, but accurate.
If he is guilty of FRAUD, then I want to know why he is pushing falsified documents as genuine.
Obama is a racist, thief and liar.
Oh my.
So false, it could have been real.
It’s not the facts that are important, it’s the spirit in which the forgery was done that is important.
They wanted it to be true, so it is true. We need to understand this and not be so negative!
We always knew he was un-American anyway.
If he he isn’t a legal citizen, I say we elect Obama. The man has stones you’d have to cart in a wheel barrow.
Yep- and then there’s this:
Big old Bookmark.
If it’s proven that that certificate really is a fake - and if Obama’s real birth certificate shows that he was not born a U.S. citizen - do you know what the fallout could be? Hillary Clinton would probably get the Democratic nomination after all.
Poor Jay
Hope he lets us know how the view is from under the bus
So what? The ends justifies the means (said in best liberal whine)
HOLY SNOT!!!!
Oh my goodness...from the last line of the article:
In the summer of August 2006, blogging on the Daily Kos, opendna aka Jay McKinnon, showing off his DHS-derived knowledge, discusses discusses under the heading of “The Perfect ID Card” the ease of forging US documents, birth certificates in particular:
“Most Americans have worse ID than illegal immigrants. So, you have a letter from a notary that says you told him you’re a citizen. Is that supposed to mean something? I’m certain he would sign one saying I told him I’m a carrot. Birth certificates, are you serious? Take a look at yours. Chances are I could counterfeit it at Kinkos.”
Me thinks by now, the original can not be found...
I fear this is some kind of set-up.
That, too, must be factored in and planned for.
BTTT
Doesn't exactly inspire confidence in DHS training, since his efforts did not withstand scrutiny for very long.
Doesn't exactly inspire confidence in DHS itself, since they've apparently trained a con artist.
Good thing he was badly trained then, lol.
Needless to say, that’s not the Jay McKinnon that Obama knew...
I’ve thought about this a great deal- because if this is all that it appears and this BC is fraudulent- then yes- most likely Hillary will get the nod in Denver.
It’s all pretty sobering. What will liberals, socialists and regular old Democrats do? What will it do to the country?
Birth Certificates are not issued for Messiahs. Move Along. :)
Way to really help out your candidate. Nice shooting.
Looks like a night watchman or something.
You are making the assumption his candidate isn't Hillary!™
I love you guys, but you’re all crazy.
If that’s true..can Hussein still be VP?
We’ve all considered that. You may be right. But before you conclude that- be sure to read this entire article AND the one I posted in # 10.
Actually, I hope I’m wrong.
But, it never hurts to worst case things.
Also McCain’s VEEP pick depends on who he actually has to run against.
I think there’s cause for whomever - AG, SOS - to get to the bottom of this.
IF it’s true, no, he can’t be. First of all- regardless of why the bc is forged- it IS. That is called FRAUD.
I hardly think the DNC would openly go along with that:)
(key word- openly)
Does anyone have a copy of the ORIGINAL high-rez (2427 x 2369) BC image from KOS/Smears, the one that does NOT have the embossed seal?
I now have the high-rez version of the POST-seal image, but need its original.
MM
placemark
Let me be the first to say, and I base this BTW from what I remember of the 60’s and 70’s,this country will change leadership 2 maybe 3 times within the next 4 years. Health problems, political or marital scandals,race riots, energy or biological crisis, terrorist attacks or even assassination plots, this country is headed for some very volatile times.Four years from now JM, BHO, or HRC will not even be in the headlines, just my 2 cents worth.
Changed documents you can believe in.
the truth is out = and all over the news -
What? It's not heading the news?
A presidential candidate tries to pass off a fraudulent BC and no one cares?
Oh, right. I forgot. It's a DEMOCRAT candidate...
no crime, no foul.
Bingo! That’s why collectively freepers are so smart:) We debate, confront and second-guess each other. ALWAYS the best way to find the facts.
I’ve done a lot of reading on this in the last 10 days or so- and I’m nearly convinced this bc is a fraudulent document.
While smart-aleck remarks about why we’re crazy for pursuing this are fun- I want techies who are good at this to tell us why this isn’t a forgery!
Wouldn’t there be some other way, if a journalists were so inclined, to find out information? Was Barry O seen by a pediatrician, are there records (hospital, flight,housing,school,license, whatever) that his mom was in Hawaii at the time of his birth? You would think that there would be some paper trail on Momma Barry re: if she were in the state of Hawaii on Aug. 4th 19XX
All crazy?
And who are you?
Maybe i could also love you if i knew
It is embarrassing to watch FR do this.
It doesn't matter where Obama was born. If his mother was a US citizen, then he is.
Even if he was born in Cuba or North Korea.
Carry on with the insanity. I sure can't stop it.
But it's stupid, it makes FR look stupid, and if that's fine with everyone, keep it up.
Obama obviously had to submit some kind of proof of citizenship or legal alien status to be admitted to the Illinois State Bar. The question is whether it was a birth certificate?
If Obama knew this was a fake, he should have produced the real one to quell these rumors. Frankly I think this might just be a Dan Rather moment. At this point he is going to have to prove he is eligible and he's going to have to do it before the convention. At this point, I have my doubts. Everything about this man is phony.
Pinging mis amigos
The real amazing thing of this story is not that it’s a fake ..... it’s that a liberal actually ‘fessed up to committing a crime. That’s extraordinary!
Maybe they are regarding this as a “whitey” video. Why can’t the original BC be viewed?
I never saw any that did not have at least a hint of a seal.
guffaw, guffaw..
This is really an amazing turn of events.
Not the forgery, mind you, but the admission of it.
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