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Iraq's July Mid-Point (a single-digit month?)
iCasualties.org ^ | 7/15/2008 | self

Posted on 07/14/2008 9:20:35 PM PDT by Southack

A single-digit month.

Looking at the coalition fatalities for the first half of July, 2008 shows something remarkable...something not yet noted by any mainstream news agencies or blogs.

At first glance, the stats show that 6 good Americans gave their lives for our country so far this month in Iraq.

But that number of 6 doesn't tell the tale.

Looking more closely at the numbers, two of our lost soldiers were due to non-hostile work accidents (e.g. one was electrocuted).

But that doesn't mean that we've lost 4 good men to combat this month...you see...two of those lost to combat were killed at the height of the Surge, way back in May of 2007. They are shown in stats for this month because that's when their bodies were recovered.

This means that two of our grave losses were from last year, not this month's combat...and two other losses were due to non-hostile causes.

In other words, for the first half of July, 2008, the U.S. has lost two good men to combat in Iraq.

This is not D-Day 1944. Thousands haven't been lost on a single Normandy beach in minutes.

We've lost two in two weeks to enemy combat.

If the second half of July mimmicks the first, we'll have a single-digit of combat losses in Iraq this month.


TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: fallen; iraq; oif; progress; war
Now I don't know about you, but just how quiet does Iraq have to become before the answer is so obvious that even Democrats have to admit that Iraq is stable, prosperous, growing, and...

...won.

1 posted on 07/14/2008 9:20:36 PM PDT by Southack
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To: wretchard; jveritas; Jameison; Travis McGee; blam; Squantos; Lazamataz; SJackson; yonif; ...

A development of note...


2 posted on 07/14/2008 9:22:21 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
Well, since the ''progressives'' have demonstrated that they've no even marginal grasp upon reality, I suppose the answer must be: ''By another factor of 10.''

Rather like ''clean air'', if you think about it for a moment. Nationally, the air is some 90% cleaner than in 1971 when Nixon (that a$$) signed that act. No improvement, however, is good enough for those who insist upon the asinine Roussavian doctrine of the ''perfection of man''.

(shrug)

3 posted on 07/14/2008 9:29:00 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: Southack

Good news.


4 posted on 07/14/2008 9:42:18 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: Southack

America and Iraq has won the war. AQ and the TraitorcRats have lost the war.

Pray for W and Our Victorious Troops


5 posted on 07/14/2008 9:55:27 PM PDT by bray (Drill Congress!!)
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To: Southack; trooprally; Duncan Hunter Ambassador; Jim Robinson; Just A Nobody; eaglesnest1; ...

I’m sure Reid, Pelosi and Murtha are ‘deeply saddened’ ...

Great observation, thanks for the ping.

Something like this ought to be made into a Resolution and put into the Congressional Record as such.

Senators from Oklahoma and Alabama come immediately to mind, as do a number of Representatives.


6 posted on 07/15/2008 12:32:13 AM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: Southack

Great news, especially for those with loved ones in harm’s way.


7 posted on 07/15/2008 2:15:14 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Southack

Lord willing this will be the norm in the future. If it turns out there has not been a reduction in the “outside the wire”, then this is truly remarkable.


8 posted on 07/15/2008 3:28:13 AM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter was our best choice...Now we are left with a bunch of idiots.)
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To: Southack
Thank you for the ping, Southack. Thank you for pointing this out. Were we in another era, the front pages would be screaming in LARGE BOLD PRINT, glad, of this news. The news would be triumphant!

OTOH, maybe this is also another reason why The New Yorker is getting such grief over its "Obama/Mama" cover -- the timing of their cover amid such low American casualties in the mid-east... vis a vis.. sure it's quiet and steady in Iraq and because the "terrorists" are here, running for Presidential office in the U.S.

Who knows... I'm not a liberal, hence, I don't grok the groupist/cult member mind set..

9 posted on 07/15/2008 4:01:31 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Southack

Excellent analysis.


10 posted on 07/15/2008 5:04:10 AM PDT by jveritas (God Bless President Bush and our brave troops)
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To: SAJ

They wouldn’t even be happy if more soldiers were born in Iraq than died there.

(Yes, I know that makes absolutely no sense. We’re dealing with “progressives”)...


11 posted on 07/15/2008 9:10:55 AM PDT by null and void (All those years of people voting for the lesser of the two evils? The bill comes due this election.)
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To: null and void
Exxcellent non sequitur, in the ''progressive'' style!

;^)

12 posted on 07/15/2008 9:16:38 AM PDT by SAJ
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To: SAJ
*blush* Thank yew...
13 posted on 07/15/2008 9:18:40 AM PDT by null and void (All those years of people voting for the lesser of the two evils? The bill comes due this election.)
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To: Southack

PING for great news on the liberation of Iraq.

We need to write letters to the editor about this.

AQ in Iraq was never going to have a ‘signing ceremony on the Missouri”, they were going to be ground into dust and fade away. And it’s happened.

Obviously there is more to do, but the hard part we can now say is behind us, and the heavy lifting is now increasingly being done by Iraqis themselves.

We are in the endgame of the Iraq war, and we are winning decisively. As with the endgame of a chess game, this endgame is clearer than the middle. In the middle, the complexities are great and options are many; before the surge, we were not winning, and many factors could (and did) complicate things, from Mahdi Army to the actions of Sunni tribes, first against us, then with us; with the surge, we turned a stalemated struggle into crushing blows against the AQ terrorists; combined with the turnabout in the Sunni tribes and population, it turned the corner on violence. In the endgame, there are fewer outcomes possible. For US and Iraqi Government, the path to victory is clear enough. Continue to stabilize and build the institutions of civil order and democracy.

We are left with one question:
“What if we won a war and the press didn’t show up to report it?”


14 posted on 07/15/2008 9:22:24 AM PDT by WOSG (http://no-bama.blogspot.com/ - NObama, stop the Hype and Chains candidate)
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To: WOSG

Continue to stabilize and build the institutions of civil order and democracy


Democracy can’t co-exsist under Islam. Turkey’s Mustafa Kemal (Atatürk) its first president learned that. Led by Atatürk the country saw a steady process of secular Westernization through Atatürk’s Reforms, which included the discontinuation of religious and other titles; the closure of Islamic courts and the replacement of Islamic canon law with a secular civil code modeled after Switzerland’s and a penal code modeled after the Italian Penal Code;

Compare that with the present Iraqi constitution that states NO LAW SHALL CONTRADICT ISLAM.

We must change this or we will end up with another oil rich country that considers US an infidel country.


15 posted on 07/15/2008 10:27:06 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: WOSG; bert; Milhous; conservatism_IS_compassion; abb
We are left with one question:

“What if we won a war and the press didn’t show up to report it?”


Indeed, we'd need to become the press. And, we are.
16 posted on 07/15/2008 4:41:12 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
Michael Yon limits excerpts to 75 words so allow me to share in totality an email from him along with this link to his dispatch.

Michael Yon Dispatches The War is Over

We have won the war in Iraq. By "we" I mean the Coalition and the Iraqis. Unless there is some unexpected reversal, what lays ahead is the challenge of building a better Iraq. There is still violence. We have lost four soldiers to combat this month, but there were times when we lost that many on an average day. There still are attacks, though we have finally reached the point where all that's left are truly "dead-enders." Al Qaeda is still a problem, but their numbers are decreasing in Iraq. The Iraqi people are sick of the violence. The Iraqi Army is filled with courageous soldiers who can fight. It is possible that by the end of the year we can really say, "Mission Accomplished," except for the continued support that Iraq will need.

Personally, my optimism has never been higher for Iraq.

17 posted on 07/15/2008 4:55:51 PM PDT by Milhous (Gn 22:17 your descendants shall take possession of the gates of their enemies)
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To: null and void
They wouldn’t even be happy if more soldiers were born in Iraq than died there.

(Yes, I know that makes absolutely no sense. We’re dealing with “progressives”)...

Actually, it easily might be true - according to some reports, lots of Iraqi kids dream of becoming Marines or US soldiers. And then there are the coalition forces, who have the occasional dropout who ends up enlisting in the service in the US. At least there was one Canadian . . .

18 posted on 07/15/2008 5:11:51 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The conceit of journalistic objectivity is profoundly subversive of democratic principle.)
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To: SAJ

.....No improvement, however, is good enough for those who insist upon the asinine Roussavian doctrine of the ‘’perfection of man’’.......

I think of it as Christ like perfection. That is the theory behind the American legal profession.

If you fail to meet perfection, pay me money


19 posted on 07/16/2008 4:54:09 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Conservation? Let the NE Yankees freeze.... in the dark)
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To: bert

Yep. A very good analogue to the whiny reporting of the war. Hadn’t thought of it — quite creative!


20 posted on 07/16/2008 7:30:33 AM PDT by SAJ
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To: SAJ; All; Allegra

Just an update. Today, the 29th of July...is now two weeks without an American giving up his life to hostile combat in Iraq.

0 (zero) hostile combat fatalities for the good guys in two weeks.


21 posted on 07/28/2008 9:11:50 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
I was going to wait until August 1 to mention this.

I've got a lot of Irish blood...superstition, ya know. ;-)

It is good news, isn't it?

22 posted on 07/28/2008 10:57:17 PM PDT by Allegra (Goodness me, goodness me, industrial disease...)
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To: Allegra

It’s extraordinarily good news. How many hot wars go two weeks with one side (and only one side) not losing a single soldier?!


23 posted on 07/28/2008 11:03:36 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack

Fingers crossed.


24 posted on 07/28/2008 11:03:40 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Southack
I believe the war is in the end phase.

The Iraqis believe it, too. While there were nasty incidents yesterday, those are becoming fewer and farther between.

The government recently established a tourism bureau. They don't expect tourists right away, but they are now able to look to a future where that is a reality.

The Parliament is now addressing the issue of how they're going to remove all those T-walls all over the place.

They can see their peaceful future now.

25 posted on 07/28/2008 11:14:58 PM PDT by Allegra (Goodness me, goodness me, industrial disease...)
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To: Southack; All

FYI-Curfew on Baghdad today due to al Qaeda’s nasty antics yesterday.


26 posted on 07/29/2008 1:28:40 AM PDT by Allegra (Goodness me, goodness me, industrial disease...)
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To: Allegra

You may take it for granted because you can see it firsthand, but it would help me, and perhaps other readers here in the States, if you explained the practical impacts on the curfews in Iraq/Baghdad.

Cars? Businesses? Immigration? Travel? Hours? Enforcement?


27 posted on 07/29/2008 9:00:59 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
The curfew is on vehicle traffic, meaning most shops and businesses in town were not open today. Curfews also tend to increase the number of checkpoints and the overall level of security.

Looks like it may have worked. It's after 7:00 p.m. and it's been quiet today despite the Shia festival taking place in the Khadamiyah District (north Baghdad.)

28 posted on 07/29/2008 9:19:00 AM PDT by Allegra (Goodness me, goodness me, industrial disease...)
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To: Allegra

Thanks. Is it accurate to say that what you are calling a “curfew” was a daytime ban on civilian vehicle traffic?


29 posted on 07/29/2008 9:21:50 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
Thanks. Is it accurate to say that what you are calling a “curfew” was a daytime ban on civilian vehicle traffic?

Yes. Except the government hasn't yet determined how long to run this one. It could last as late as Thursday, depending on how the security situation is assessed. Almost 60 innocent people lost their lives to terrorists in Baghdad yesterday.

Back in the wilder days, curfews were commonplace and there was even a standard Friday curfew every week for a while in '06.

Now, they're much more rare, but still necessary on occasion.

30 posted on 07/29/2008 9:26:44 AM PDT by Allegra (Goodness me, goodness me, industrial disease...)
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To: Milhous
I believe George Bush made a terrific mistake when he set out on his "Mission Accomplished" trip. He made it impossible for anyone to ever again claim without public ridicule that the war has been won - even when it has been.

Republicans should be able to take the Democrats apart for their united opposition to the Surge - but they cannot muster the will to do so because they would have to admit that the war is almost, well...(won)."Ssssh, don't say it too loudly or the Democrats will unleash their Media Ridicule Machine." And they will.

Never mind that sectarian violence will continue sporadically in Iraq as it does in countless other parts of the globe. Every single act of violence will be held up by the Left to "prove" that the US has not yet won the war, or that it is still losing, as is the "Progressives"' fondest hope.

31 posted on 07/29/2008 9:33:28 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves.)
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To: Allegra

So this is an Iraqi-government “curfew?” And the Iraqi government will determine when to lift it?


32 posted on 07/29/2008 9:40:07 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
Yep.

Kind of like their "Homeland Security." ;-)

33 posted on 07/29/2008 9:41:48 AM PDT by Allegra (Goodness me, goodness me, industrial disease...)
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To: Allegra

That’s very good to hear.

I’m also pleased to see reports of the Iraqi Army doing well in its new anti-terror offensive in a couple of different regions of Iraq.

They are “Standing Up” and things are looking good!


34 posted on 07/29/2008 9:44:14 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: All
31-Jul-2008 1 | US: 1 | UK: 0 | Other: 0    
  US NAME NOT RELEASED YET Ninawa Province Non-hostile
30-Jul-2008 1 | US: 1 | UK: 0 | Other: 0    
  US Sergeant James A. McHale National Naval Medical Center, Bethesda, - Baghdad Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
17-Jul-2008 1 | US: 1 | UK: 0 | Other: 0    
  US Technical Sergeant Jackie L. Larsen Balad (Balad Air Base) - Salah ad Din Non-hostile
15-Jul-2008 2 | US: 2 | UK: 0 | Other: 0    
  US Staff Sergeant David W. Textor Mosul - Ninawa Hostile - hostile fire
  US Staff Sergeant Jeremy D. Vrooman Knan (died in Baghdad) - Diyala Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
14-Jul-2008 2 | US: 2 | UK: 0 | Other: 0    
  US Aviation Boatswain Mate 3rd Class Daniel R. Verbeke Paoli, Pennsylvania - NA Non-hostile - accident (on flight deck)
  US Staff Sergeant Danny Dupre Ramadi - Anbar Hostile - hostile fire - small arms fire
13-Jul-2008 1 | US: 1 | UK: 0 | Other: 0    
  US Lance Corporal Jeffery S. Stevenson Falluja - Anbar Non-hostile
10-Jul-2008 0 | US: 0 | UK: 0 | Other: 0    
09-Jul-2008 3 | US: 3 | UK: 0 | Other: 0    
  US Sergeant Alex R. Jimenez Jurf al-Sakhar - Baghdad Hostile - hostile fire - body found
  US Private Byron J. Fouty Jurf al-Sakhar - Baghdad Hostile - hostile fire - body found
  US Sergeant 1st Class Steven J. Chevalier Samarra (died in Balad) - Salah Ad Din Hostile - hostile fire - grenade
08-Jul-2008 1 | US: 1 | UK: 0 | Other: 0    
  US Specialist William L. McMillan III Baghdad (west of) Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
05-Jul-2008 1 | US: 1 | UK: 0 | Other: 0    
  US Sergeant 1st Class Anthony Lynn Woodham Tallil (Camp Adder) - Dhi Qar Non-hostile - electrocution
02-Jul-2008 0 | US: 0 | UK: 0 | Other: 0    

35 posted on 07/31/2008 9:53:25 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: All; wretchard; Howlin; Jameison; Travis McGee; blam; Squantos; Lazamataz; SJackson; yonif; ...

What post #35 above shows is that 13 good Americans gave their lives for us in Iraq in July, 2008.

Or more detailed...that we lost 6 good men to hostile combat in July. Two were killed in May of 2007 at the start of the Surge, but their bodies were only recovered this month, and another 5 were killed in work accidents (e.g. vehicle wrecks).

6 to hostile combat.

We mourn all of our lost ones, and each death is tragic, but on the scope of a *war*, losing 6 men during an entire month of fighting pretty well shows that the war is over.

We won.

And yes, it was a “single digit month” as predicted.


36 posted on 07/31/2008 9:59:24 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack

average aged 28.

seems to defy the way the media promotes the conventional wisdom

i remember here in Nashville when the casualties were being called with the Fifth Special Forces guys out of Fort Campbell in Afghanistan.....most were mid 30s....some even late 40s.


37 posted on 07/31/2008 10:06:59 PM PDT by wardaddy ("Cause my grey hair just can't cover up my redneck.")
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To: Southack

I concur with what you’ve written in post. Iraq has been moving towards solidifying a civil society with all such rudiments and constructs in place. Now, back to Afghanistan - where it began.


38 posted on 08/01/2008 3:54:47 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Southack

Thanks so much for this analysis (and for the ping)! You always have such clear insight; it is much appreciated.


39 posted on 08/01/2008 4:00:47 AM PDT by alwaysconservative (Just say "uh, uh, uh" to Uhbuhmuh, LOLOL!)
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To: Southack
A good analogy would be how many American police officers died to "hostile action" in major American cities such as Detroit, Chicago, Washington D.C., Cleveland and etc. in the month of July?

Like you said, the war is pretty much over and all we have to do is to mop up Al-Qaeda remnants. Afterwards, all we have to do is to keep an eye on Iran similiar to what we are currently doing in South Korea.

40 posted on 08/01/2008 4:08:50 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Southack

This trend is most likely to continue by all indications.


41 posted on 08/02/2008 2:39:12 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter was our best choice...Now we are left with a bunch of idiots.)
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To: Marine_Uncle; jveritas; LS; Dog

The last that I heard, Jveritas was noting that the jihadi websites are calling for new recruits to go to Afghanistan/Pakistan...and to avoid Iraq.

They’ve conceded the field.

That being said, there are still going to be a few diehards doing very mean, nasty things to civilians and Americans in Iraq...just on a scale far smaller than in the past.

Which is to say, we’ve won Iraq. We know it. They know it.


42 posted on 08/02/2008 3:02:07 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
Which is to say, we’ve won Iraq. We know it. They know it.

Amen FRiend. We Won the War in Iraq.

43 posted on 08/02/2008 10:32:15 PM PDT by jveritas (God Bless President Bush and our brave troops)
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To: Southack
"Which is to say, we’ve won Iraq. We know it. They know it."
At this point it would be hard to say it any differently.
44 posted on 08/03/2008 3:59:57 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter was our best choice...Now we are left with a bunch of idiots.)
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To: Southack

Many US cities lose more than one 20-something per week to violence... and those are CITIES, not nations. Iraq is safer than Detroit.


45 posted on 08/03/2008 6:10:53 PM PDT by Teacher317 (Thank you Dith Pran for showing us what Communism brings)
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