Posted on 07/26/2008 4:23:30 AM PDT by Amityschild
NOTE by TexasDarlin:
This is the second article in a two-part series by Judah Benjamin challenging the Constitutionality of Barack Obama’s bid for President.
This article was preceded by my Foreword, and by the author’s Part 1, which explores the legal history and definition of “natural born citizen” under Article II of the US Constitution. Those two posts should be read first, and in full.
Part 2 explores the factual basis for Barack Obama’s dual citizenship, and concludes that he has been a citizen of at least two countries, and therefore is ineligible to be President.
(Excerpt) Read more at texasdarlin.wordpress.com ...
This, in plain terms means that a Dual National could not, under any circumstances, be Eligible. Additionally, if Naturalized Citizens are Ineligible because of the Legal principle of “The Appearance of Foreign Allegiance” which they are, and always have been, a former Dual National/Dual Citizen MUST be in exactly the same position vis a vis Article II.
Senator Obama has created this problem. It is purely and absolutely his own fault that he has not “come clean” about his childhood, youth and background. If a problem exists, he didn’t initially create it but he has covered it up in so many layers of obfuscation and outright untruth that he has made things much worse and much more complicated than they need to be.
I still want to see a certified copy of his birth certificate. Something fishy is going on there too.
And why did Senators McCaskill and Obama reportedly insert the following Clause?
“Whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside of the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President;”
This Clause has no particular relevance to McCain and the following Clause, which it is reported McCaskill and Obama attempted to REMOVE shows that:
and Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizens on an American military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936.”
It seems clear that McCaskill and Obama were attempting to create a blanket Resolution covering ALL Foreign Born candidates. Why do that if not to benefit a Foreign Born Democratic Candidate who did not have a US Military background?
McCain did not need this resolution, Richardson did not need this Resolution; so far as I can see no-body needed this Resolution unless somebody in the race was born outside the USA and was “Covering his/her Ass” and the only individual in the race that that could apply to was Senator Obama!
This in turn would show that the Senator is a liar who has been peddling untruths about his birth for at least 16 years!
Oh well. It doesn’t matter who is the new President. The current congress and Bush are putting us on the hook for untold trillions with this housing and Freddie/Fannie Mae bailouts. We’re toast.
It is all a waste of time and effort. Whatever is true, if anything disabling is brought to light Congress will take care of it within 48 hours of the determination that is disabling by passing whatever is necessary to declare him a “natural born Citizen.” And if that happens maybe the Crats will go about calling each other “Citizen!” which is sort of the English for the French word that became “Comrade!” farther east.
Ping!
Well written! Bump
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There should be a paper trail in US State and Federal and Foreign Government Records to prove, or disprove, my views. In fact, there must be and if there is not then it follows that somebody has removed the trail. If they have there has been a criminal conspiracy.
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Writing this article has brought me face to face with huge quantities of disinformation. Had the Obama Campaign and their allies not laid such a thick smokescreen, obscuring facts going back to 1942, for much of his mother’s record has also been extensively doctored, the task would have been relatively easy.
It would be fair to say that I have never seen anything like it and I suspect very few other people have either. This matter should never have got this far. I cannot even at this point say that Senator Obama has committed a crime or broken the Law but I have never seen such a twisted version of Legality and it cannot be an accident.
The Senator knows the truth but he won’t admit to it and he may well be the only surviving witness to what happened back in 1966 and 1971.
>>>he may well be the only surviving witness to what happened back in 1966 and 1971<<<
I had to back track to part 1 and am still reading. What happened? What is this referencing? Is this just referring to the suspected name changes?
>>>THE REPUBLIC OF INDONESIA
It is an indisputable fact that Barack Obama spent his formative years in Indonesia. It is an indisputable fact that his mother married Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo (hereafter called Lolo Soetoro). It is an indisputable fact that Senator Obama attended two Indonesian schools and that the records of one of those schools still existed in the year 2007.<<<
cross linking:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2041173/posts
AUDIO OF INTERVIEW WITH MALIK OBAMA: B.H. OBAMA HOW ISRAEL NEED NOT WORRY
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A) I am absolutely certain that such a Document exists, that it existed in 1966/67 and that it exists today.
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I'm rereading as well. So much information! I also wondered about the point in A) about the existance of his BC in 1966/67.
Could the years refer to his enrollment in Indonesian schools and entrance into Hawaii?
Ref from TxDarl:
>>An American Expat in Southeast Asia (blog), ‘Tracking Down Obama in Indonesia’ Part 1 ,20 January 2007, Part 2, 23 January 2007, Part 3, 24 January 2007<<<
He has more on this coming out in Corsi’s book this August.
Oh, I'm going to have to read this multiple times too.
Don’t know, I now have a ton of browser windows open with multiple references everywhere :))
“Senator John McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone…”
This is where I stopped reading.
If the author got that wrong, what else did he/she get wrong?
LOL, I do as well!
Senator John McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone, which was not, according to the State Department, US Territory. He was apparently born either on a US Naval Base, or in any event in the purlieus of one, which was not, according to the State Department, US Territory.
AND there you have it!
CONCLUSION
There is clear prima facie evidence that Senator Barack Hussein Obama has held at least two Citizenships, American and Indonesian.
Under Article II of the Constitution that disqualifies him for POTUS, and it should.
Bump To The Top!!!!!
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Michigan's Democratic Governor Jennifer Granholm was born in British Columbia, Vancouver, Canada, and thus is also ineligible.
Governor Granholm has eloquently explained the unfairness of the situation she, Arnold, and countless other could-be/would-be presidents face: "You can't choose where you are born, but you can choose where you live and where you swear your allegiance."
He isn’t Eligible unless and until the Supreme Court Rules on Dual Nationality or the Congress passes Statute Law and the Constitution is Amended. The XIVth Amendment doesn’t change anything; United States v. Rhodes is still Precedent.
John McCain was born in Colon Panama. That wasn’t part of the Canal Zone.
Wonderful Calpernia has a copy of John McCain’s “Certification of Live Birth” (CoLB) which she was kind enough to share with us on several occasions. Maybe she will again if you ask her nicely. :)
The CoLB states very clearly that McCain was born in Colón, Republic of Panama, and not the Canal Zone…Panama being a separate, foreign country from the Canal Zone.
McCain has an Obama problem.
I may be wrong.
Cool! Can WE get a do-over?
Thanks for the ping! I have to get ready for work right now...will read later.
OBAMA IS HIDING EVERYTHING THAT WOULD PROVE HE CANNOT LEGALLY BE PRESIDENT!!!!
The other day Obama made a point of saying to the Germans that he was a "citizen of the world".
Originally I do believe that term applied to those that were men without a country, exiles, or refugees who either choose or were forced to be citizens of the world. Once upon a time such individuals were issued Nansen Passports to prove they were in fact stateless citizens of the world.
I am sure the speechwriter that put this little gem and so many others between Mr' Toot's lips had only a vague idea of what he was really telling us all or how it could also be viewed, but what if it was some sort of Freudian slip written and spoken by Barack Obama himself.
I have no doubt that he knows exactly what he is hiding and how it would prevent him from being president, and I am sure that there are people on both sides of the aisle that know the full details of his fraud and yet are allowing it to run it's course until such time as his lies can be flayed bare for all the world to see. That includes the media too, who will be waiting in the wings to deflate such a massive ego with the mother of all political jab to burst his balloon of absolute supremacy over us all.
And we all know they will but not until the time is right, like maybe on some night in Denver when crowds have been whipped into a Obama frenzy and face a loyal mob of Hillary supporters armed to the teeth with a complete and brutal expose` of the man that should not be president.
The Canal Zone is and always has been Panamanian territory, it has never been part of the United States or it’s territories.
I read the John Dean article and it focuses on the Natural Born facet. I really have more of a problem with the Dual Citizenship and potential Dual allegiances. In our current day and age, this could have significant consequences.
“Cool! Can WE get a do-over?”
LOL!!!
That is what most of us are hoping for...a do-over.
This is why it is important to have folks realize McCain was not born in the Canal Zone but in a foreign country. His Certification of Live Birth proves it.
What an exciting mess!!!
I don't discount Judah's article at all. ALTHOUGH, I have been guilty of stopping the read of articles as soon as I hit incorrect information. I will make a deal with Gatun.
Gatun, I will post John McCain's COLB if you please go back and read Judah's article, in full. Deal?
I’ve added the COLB for McCain. Please, don’t dismiss Judah’s article. Thanks!
Wrong.
Do your homework.
I was born and grew up in the Canal Zone. I still live here.
It is a great read though, huh?
I didn’t get to the John Dean one yet. I will; but I’m still back tracking on Judah’s article. Pulling references I remember reading from other sources. I may be on this one a while!
The Constitution is a the trumping issue for me. The rest don't matter. No sense arguing things that are irrelevant if he isn't qualified.
Obama can never be defeated on the issues for one simple reason.....
He cannot be pinned down on any of them.
Frankly it surprises me how so many political geniuses fail to recognize that simple fact, you cannot beat a man with the issues that changes his views on the issues as much Barack Obama does.
You must find his fatal flaw and use it to break his political image, that flaw is he is not eligible to be president and is hiding the proof that conceals that fact and is willing to by proxy defraud the entire country to that end with a phony photoshopped document that even fact check .org thinks is real.
Go read this whole thing!
The remaining 20% that actually decide elections! (I assume the remaining electorate vote 40% always GOP & 40% always democrat.) That 20% are dimly aware that there are such things as elections don't care about Constitutional issues. To them the Constitution is that thing where they had to memorize the awful preamble to back in Jr High civics class.
Thank you for posting it again.
I will read the entire article.
I did my homework on this years ago, the Panama canal zone was never US soil or a territory, the treaty we signed with the Panamanian government we created gave us only the right to administer the canal and the zone around it. It has never been a US territory.
And McCain is a Natural born citizen because of the oldest of United States Navy traditions, he is a son born to a United States Navy member and his wife while serving overseas such has been the case since the age of wooden ships and iron men and their women that went with them aboard those ships.
There is no law saying you ‘can’t run’ for President. But there is a law saying he can’t server. He can’t be sworn in. Our votes are irrelevant even if we wanted to vote for him.
So why waste time arguing the resume when he need not apply?
I’m thinking Gatun misread your post 34.
You both think the same thing on the geography. I think you just misunderstood each other.
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