Posted on 08/07/2008 2:01:53 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March
FRegards ....
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In other words, all non Christians and even so called Christians who follow the Law of Moses should live by them and be judged by them according to God.
The only people excepted from the curses and punishments that go with breaking the Law of Moses are Christians who walk by faith. End of story.
Men may think they can interpret this and that and be ok but God is the one who judges.
The recurring theme you usually see out of leftists trying to denigrate the authority of the Bible are the contemporarily unacceptable laws of the Old Testament, such as the “shellfish” comment. Usually this is to de-value the proscription on homosexual behavior.
Either they are ignorant, or intentionally deceptive in this regard, because Christ gave us a new covenant on what we could eat, etc, over the old Torah laws. But He did not say “oh, and by the way, guys, gals, have all the homosex you want, it’s OK now”.
The only reason he needs to say any of this is to explain how and why he can claim to be a Christian, and still support late term abortion, even already-out-of-the-womb abortion. That, and gay marriage.
Thats his problem, and this long meandering explanation is his response.
If his politics were actually rooted in what he claims are his religious beliefs, he wouldn’t have to go through this, or make us go through it with him. America is a diverse nation, he says, therefor I will support late term abortion and gay marriage.
“well according to God, if you do not live under the grace given by the death burial and ressurection of his Son, then you live under the Law of Moses and his Law should stand.”
I never quite heard it that way before. FRegards....
Obama was ‘stammering mad’ that we think his ‘inflation’ policy is silly. Here, he tears up straw dogs to make the Judeo-Christian faiths seem silly, and we are supposed to faint at his words.
“If his politics were actually rooted in what he claims are his religious beliefs, he wouldn’t have to go through this, or make us go through it with him.”
My grandfather once said that it takes a lot of words to explain a lie.
Has there ever been a President who gives his interpretation of Scripture this way? Out of one side of his mouth he declares what the meaning of several passages is and out of the other he draws a line in the sand and says Scripture must never be used as a basis for public policy.
Are we electing a Caesar this year?
To base one’s life on such uncompromising commitments may be sublime, but to base our policy making on such commitments would be a dangerous thing.” Barack Obama in the same June Speech.
We’re ‘dangerous’. Isn’t it insteresting that, when he was race baiting, he warned his audiences that we would try to make HIM look scary. They always accuse us of doing what they do— it never fails.
Rom 2:12 For all who have sinned without the law will also perish without the law, and all who have sinned under the law will be judged by the law.
Those who aren't justified by faith will die either under or apart from the law.
Rom 4:25 who was delivered up for our trespasses and raised for our justification.
Those who believe in God our Savior are justified by their faith apart from the law.
“Has there ever been a President who gives his interpretation of Scripture this way?”
I don’t believe so, not publicly.
Thank you. That clears up some things. I’d much rather be a Christian. FRegards ....
It's like running a red light, just because you decide it's ok doesn't make it ok and eventually you will pay the price, unless your Father is mayor and your Brother is chief of police. Then you will just get a personal reprimand until your Father or Brother gets tired of your pride and judges you under the law.
Barack Hussein Obama makes the argument for moral relativism. Which leads inevitably to moral anarchy. Which in turn will lead to some form of tyranny. Because there WILL BE a moral order.
But really there is no solution short of God in the world. Everything else will fall short because everything else is subject to the agency of men. The form of government established by the founders of this nation is the best that humans have so far conceived. And it is based on limiting government by pitting it against itself in the hopes it would be hamstrung just enough to prevent it from becoming a tyranny. This is because the founders understood human beings and the motivations that spur them to act.
There is no perfect government. There is no fair government and never will be as long as humans reign in the halls of power. There is always controversy, contention and conflict. The only hope for liberty is that the parties involved will work to prevent one another from seizing supreme power. And this depends on a general agreement that the central law (the Constitution) is supreme and means what it says and all parties will be subject to it. Once the parties come to agree that they can make the Constitution mean whatever it is they SAY it means (regardless of what it actually says) our liberty dies. And this is exactly what is happening.
We are now at the point where the Constitution is almost meaningless. The checks are disappearing and the balance of power is shifting more and more towards the central government. At some point all three branches will be dominated by people determined to enforce their vision of what is right and wrong and who are in general agreement as to what that vision will be. At that point the American experiment will end.
Is Obama the Messiah or the Anti-Christ?
I have had a day since this was posted.
What upsets me about Obama talking this way about our religion is how similiar he sounds like the Episcopal Bishops and Priests, who have hurt the Episcopal church.
The Methodist Preachers, who drove my wonderful MIL away from her lifetime church. She made sure that her final service was in the funeral home, 10 miles away in another town and the eulogy was delived by a Baptist Preacher not one of the liberal ministers forced on her and the other members of her former church.
We are seeing couples and singles coming from other main line churches to our parish where the Priest, Asst. Priest and Deacon are firm believers not liberal nay sayers.
What makes Obama, the Oreo CINO so dangerous with his look at Christianity? He could be our president and do more harm to Christian churches Jewish Religions than imaginable as our president.
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