Posted on 08/14/2008 2:11:35 PM PDT by Bill Dupray
Usually when you argue with liberals, you can start winning right off the bat by denying the premise of their argument. On energy, their premise is that wind power is pure, clean energy, harnessing mother nature with no downside at all. After all it is just a breeze, which we like on hot summer days, and other than lifting loosely glued toupees and bad comb-overs, it is harmless. Right?
Well we don't get wind power from pin-wheels. We get it from thousands of huge, industrial grade wind turbines, which, for the dim bulbs on the left, are machines.
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Can someone answer me something. We have a wind farm recently put up in our area. You can see it as you drive out in the country. It’s in the distance. THere must be fifty of these things and the number is growing.
EACH AND EVERY TIME I DRIVE BY THE PROPS ARE TURNING REGARDLESS IF THERE IS WIND OR NO WIND. ON DAYS WHEN THERE IS NO WIND THE PROPS ARE GOING.
How can this be? Is someone fooling us?
Liberal trick. They leave the fans on to make it look like they actually do something.
That is what wind farms do ... create wind. Where do you think those breezes come from?
There could easily be enough wind 200 or 300 feet in the air to get these things turning. It’s not the wind 6 feet off the ground that makes them turn.
“Well we don’t get wind power from pin-wheels. We get it from thousands of huge, industrial grade wind turbines, which, for the dim bulbs on the left, are machines.”
Machines are great and wonderful things. I think conservatives need to be just a-okay with wind from an environmental view (the economics are another thing).
I am all for letting the liberals be the NIMBYs on wind and for conservatives to be the problem-solvers.
Texas Land Commissioner Jerry Patterson, who touted the fact that Texas leads the nation in install wind power capacity, notes that, after a few generations, we’ll have smarter birds. ;-) And I think its hilarious that the liberals in Cape Cod stopped wind, and now - hey wait a sec - a conservative Texas *oil man* is getting big Govt subsidies for doing something “green”... Huh?!? Only Al Gore was supposed to be in on that scam!!
The scam part is not the technology - it works - or the environmental impact - yeah, its probably noisy, but its noisy in the flat plains where few people live. The scam part is how we have to fund ‘alternative’ and ‘renewable’ energy to the tune of billions via taxpayer money. If it really works, let the free market carry it forward.
Despite its downsides, wind is not too bad and it only proves a conservative point that ANY REAL TECHNOLOGY will have pros and cons. Solar? Chews up a lot of land, expensive, and PV cell production uses lots of icky chemicals. And technology to power 290 million AMerican lifestyles will have steel, electric towers, large-scale plants and run by corporations. Meanwhile the nuclear power the libs love to hate is the #1 worlds source of CO2 emissions free power - safe, reliable, environmentally friendly. Slap a Green Sticker on all those nukes! Build 400 nuclear power plants and say good bye to global warming and hello to energy independence.
Generally @300 feet there’s enough wind to keep things moving
If you look up motorwind you’ll fin a low speed possibility for residential use which only requires 5kph or 2 mph to generate electricity...I think the big boys need at least 12-15 mph
also with the height of the towers , you can fit a lot of squirrels on little treadmills to keep the turbines spinning
Condor Cuisenart.
They are noisy. Really! Go find one and get out of the car to stand next to it, you’d be surprised.
Just because you don’t feel any breeze on the ground doesn’t mean there isn’t one “in the distance” and 400 feet up in the air where the blades of the wind turmines are.
But they never stop. If that’s the case then you’d think that this might be suitable for some applications. But, what are we going to have areas with thousands of these things? It doesn’t generate squat in comparison to coal and nuclear...
Nance stands to clean up with CLNE while the rest of us suffer what a Democrat-controlled congress has done to our 'bankrolls.'
Democrats are the reason for the stock market decline and for the prices in grocery stores.
400 feet up ?
They burn natural gas to power the windmills to keep them going even when there is no wind.
“That is what wind farms do ... create wind. Where do you think those breezes come from?”
But of course . . . Cattle ranches produce cattle, chicken rancehes produce chickens, wheat farms, etc.
Even if its not the solution to all energy problems, wind power is a good thing. Sure, it has peak-to-average power problems, and isn’t yet as cheap as hydrocarbon power, but its getting there.
I live on Cape Cod, where its almost always windy offshore. An offshore wind farm would supply up to 75% of the Cape’s power requirements. The adversaries to the project, of course, are people like Kennedy and Kerry, who don’t want to see the turbines 5 miles out to see from their yacht docks.
Boone Pickens might not be completely right on the natural gas side of his proposition, but he’s rich enough and old that he doesn’t have to talk his book up. I think he’s sincere, even if he is betting financially on the things he’s recommending.
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