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Obama Admitted Cheating at Saddleback
Blogs.Suntimes.com ^ | 7/18/2008 | Soliton

Posted on 08/18/2008 9:43:16 AM PDT by Soliton

The moonbats a barking that McCain didn't hide in a cone of silence. What can this exchange mean except that Obama knew a question in advance?

REV. WARREN: Okay. This one is dear to my heart. Most people don't know that there are 148 million orphans in the world. One hundred forty-eight million kids growing up without mommies and dads. They don't need to be in an orphanage, they need to be in families, but a lot of families can't afford to take these kids in. Would you be willing to consider and even commit to doing some kind of an emergency plan for orphans like President Bush did with AIDS, almost a president's emergency plan for orphans to deal with this issue?

SEN. OBAMA: I cheated a little bit. I actually looked at this idea ahead of time, and I think it is a great idea. I think it's something that we should sit down and figure out working between non- governmental organizations, international institutions, the U.S. government and try to figure out what can we do.

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TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: 21scandal; cheating; obama; questionsinadvance; riggeddebates; riggedelection; saddleback

1 posted on 08/18/2008 9:43:17 AM PDT by Soliton
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To: Soliton

Where does Mr. Warren get the figure 148-million orphans in the world?


2 posted on 08/18/2008 9:46:13 AM PDT by RexBeach ("Americans never quit!" Douglas MacArthur)
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To: Soliton

His accusations of McCain where, like most other liberal accusations, just projection.


3 posted on 08/18/2008 9:46:26 AM PDT by mnehring (http://www.heyobamababy.com/obama_baby_cool_cat.htm)
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To: Soliton
Someone needs to get this to Rush immediately.

Yo Rush!

4 posted on 08/18/2008 9:48:23 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Soliton

Cheaters Never Win...


5 posted on 08/18/2008 9:49:58 AM PDT by Doctor Raoul (Fire the CIA and hire the Free Clinic, someone who knows how to stop leaks.)
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To: Soliton

So it was Obama who cheated, Not McCain. Even if McCain wasn’t inside the cone of silence, that doesn’t mean he cheated.

McCain would Never cheat. He is an honorable man and a former naval officer.


6 posted on 08/18/2008 9:50:22 AM PDT by FFranco
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To: RexBeach

I don’t know where but that is probably pretty close to the actual number.


7 posted on 08/18/2008 9:51:14 AM PDT by aft_lizard (One animal actually its eats its own brains to conserve energy, we call them liberals.)
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To: RexBeach
Where does Mr. Warren get the figure 148-million orphans in the world?

I have no clue

8 posted on 08/18/2008 9:52:16 AM PDT by Soliton (> 100)
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To: RexBeach
That's the population of Orphaland, our 57th state.
9 posted on 08/18/2008 9:52:51 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: RexBeach

67% of statistics are made up


10 posted on 08/18/2008 9:59:30 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (Courage is not the lack of fear it is acting in spite of it<><)
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To: Soliton

SEN. OBAMA: "I cheated a little bit. I actually looked at this idea ahead of time"

11 posted on 08/18/2008 9:59:58 AM PDT by weegee (The higher taxes that Obama demands of Americans are 'Above my Pay Grade'.)
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To: RexBeach
Where does Mr. Warren get the figure 148-million orphans in the world?

I suppose it's a matter of definition.... How old does one have to be before one can lose one's parents and no longer "an orphan?" I've seen the definition go as high as 18 -- the time when the kid's schooling would be complete. Not unreasonable, though I think I'd probably draw the line at 13....

At any rate ... there really are probably tens of millions of kids in Africa who meet that description ("AIDS orphans," primarily). I wouldn't be surprised to see similar numbers in places like India.

But 148 million does seem a bit high -- assuming that half the world population is 18 or under, that works out to 5% of those kids are orphans.

12 posted on 08/18/2008 10:00:27 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Soliton

According to this link they were told the topics beforehand.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/17/warren-mccain-did-not-violate-cone-of-silence/


13 posted on 08/18/2008 10:02:02 AM PDT by vietvet67
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To: Soliton

in a world of 6,000,000,000 people, that is 148,000,000. Or
2.46% of the world’s population.

50 million babies have been aborted in America alone.


14 posted on 08/18/2008 10:02:06 AM PDT by weegee (The higher taxes that Obama demands of Americans are 'Above my Pay Grade'.)
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To: weegee

I think some Obambi staffer probably sh*t himself when Obama said it and they sarted the whole cone of silence thing as a preemptive strike.


15 posted on 08/18/2008 10:02:30 AM PDT by Soliton (> 100)
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To: r9etb

Barack Obama was abandoned by both his mother and father. I wonder if HE’D meet the qualification for being called an “orphan”.


16 posted on 08/18/2008 10:03:42 AM PDT by weegee (The higher taxes that Obama demands of Americans are 'Above my Pay Grade'.)
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To: r9etb

Good post. Thanks!

I’m not questioning the number, I merely want to know the source.


17 posted on 08/18/2008 10:05:16 AM PDT by RexBeach ("Americans never quit!" Douglas MacArthur)
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To: vietvet67

“Ross says the whole event only came about because of the relationship Warren has with both men. He said they all agreed to assure a “level field, “McCain would not hear the questions or Senator Obama’s answers.” The pastor spoke to each candidate this week, giving the general themes. Warren decided to tell them each the first two questions in advance, about the three wisest people you know, and the biggest moral failings.”

You wouldn’t know to look into a world wide orphan problem based on “ general themes”.


18 posted on 08/18/2008 10:06:26 AM PDT by Soliton (> 100)
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To: r9etb

I’d set it at when one can legally earn one’s own living.

Here in Caleeeeeeeforneeeeya that would be 16, in an area with less restrictive child labor laws it could be lower, although any kid much younger would surely need parental love and guidance regardless of their technical ability to survive on their own.

Thirteen isn’t a bad lower limit.


19 posted on 08/18/2008 10:08:06 AM PDT by null and void (Barack zerObama - International Man of Mystery...)
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To: Soliton
They don't need to be in an orphanage, they need to be in families...

Reverend Saddleback needs to carefully study the foster parent scheme.

Most of the foster 'parents' are just in the scheme to make money. What many end up doing to these kids is evil and shameful. If states are to continue taking care of orphans and other kids that don't belong in the so-called single parent homes, then let the states reinstitute the orphanages where they'll get better care than in the foster homes.

20 posted on 08/18/2008 10:08:29 AM PDT by IbJensen (Ali Bama isn't going to make it!)
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To: Soliton
To be fair on this one, Warren did say he gave them the first question in advance - just to ease their tension - That first question was to name 3 wisest people he would seek for advice as President. But Obama blew that one big time by saying his wife and grandmother. Even knowing the question, he could not come up with anything better than that?

For the rest of the questions, Warren said he gave them the topic of the questions up front, but not the actual question. So there was some room for doing some legitimate fact finding research first. Obama’s mistake here was using the term “I cheated”. Dumb choice of words.

21 posted on 08/18/2008 10:12:28 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: NavyCanDo

If Gran’mama is so wise (but a bit of a typical white racist...) why haven’t we been permitted to hear her interviewed?


22 posted on 08/18/2008 10:23:39 AM PDT by weegee (The higher taxes that Obama demands of Americans are 'Above my Pay Grade'.)
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To: IbJensen

Orphanages worked well in America. We should have kept them.


23 posted on 08/18/2008 10:24:00 AM PDT by Soliton (> 100)
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To: RexBeach
Where does Mr. Warren get the figure 148-million orphans in the world? And, WHY are they America's problem??
24 posted on 08/18/2008 10:25:03 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Soliton

Rush on this now.


25 posted on 08/18/2008 10:25:23 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Miss Didi

we have baseball today instead of Rush.


26 posted on 08/18/2008 10:28:58 AM PDT by Soliton (> 100)
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To: Soliton

a lot of evil has been perpetrated based on the claim that we were trying to confront evil.

of course he had to slip that in, blame america, i believe that he was directly referring to iraq war?


27 posted on 08/18/2008 10:31:13 AM PDT by machogirl
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To: Soliton

Rush is all over this. He’s not very fond of Obamessiah. LOL! I love Rush. He’s a riot.


28 posted on 08/18/2008 10:34:35 AM PDT by NRA2BFree (A TAXPAYER VOTING FOR BARACK OBAMA IS LIKE A CHICKEN VOTING FOR COLONEL SANDERS!)
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To: Soliton

Can you listen on line?


29 posted on 08/18/2008 10:34:52 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: NavyCanDo

If they had all of that information, why do the moonbats care if McCain listened or not?

Either they had enough information in advance to guess at the questions, and if so, no problem if McCain heard some of the questions; or they didn’t and Obama somehow knew about the orphan question when he should’t have.


30 posted on 08/18/2008 10:37:49 AM PDT by Soliton (> 100)
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To: Miss Didi

I am not a premium member


31 posted on 08/18/2008 10:39:23 AM PDT by Soliton (> 100)
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To: Soliton

You can listen to any station on line. YOu don’t have to be a premium member. I’ll find you a link....


32 posted on 08/18/2008 10:45:29 AM PDT by Shelayne (After seeing Obama without teleprompter, I think the tingle on Chris Matthews' leg is probably pee.)
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To: Soliton

http://radiotime.com/station/s_30734/KTLK-FM_100.3.aspx

This is the station I am listening to right now.


33 posted on 08/18/2008 10:48:02 AM PDT by Shelayne (After seeing Obama without teleprompter, I think the tingle on Chris Matthews' leg is probably pee.)
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To: Soliton

how do the libs explain mccain’s answers to questions that obama never had due to time constraints? (obama saying a lot of words, but never really saying anything)


34 posted on 08/18/2008 10:51:52 AM PDT by machogirl
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To: Soliton

So many stations...www.wabcradio.com; www.wowo.com; www.wmal.com...take your pick!


35 posted on 08/18/2008 11:06:58 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Soliton

Guess Obama knew it was coming.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2063843/posts


36 posted on 08/18/2008 11:16:26 AM PDT by vietvet67
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To: Soliton
Agreed. Also homes for the old people worked well too.

We used to live in a town where the orphanage and the 'old folks home' were side by side.

It made the occupants of both buildings very happy as the youngsters visited.

These kids today that are bred by 'single moms' and who haven't a clue who their daddies are would be much better off (and I would feel more comfortable about knowing that my tax money was being spent on a solution such as this)if their deadbeat, welfare 'mothers' were taken out of the picture. Our nation would be much better off.

37 posted on 08/18/2008 11:58:37 AM PDT by IbJensen (Ali Bama isn't going to make it!)
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To: IbJensen
These kids today that are bred by 'single moms' and who haven't a clue who their daddies are would be much better off

They would get a much better education too

38 posted on 08/18/2008 12:36:26 PM PDT by Soliton (> 100)
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To: Soliton

I think the Obama-esque solution to the orphan problem is obvious: Forced adoption by middle class American families!


39 posted on 08/18/2008 1:17:56 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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