Inconsistencies abound in FactCheck report on Obama "birth certificate"

Israeli Insider ^ | 8/24/08 | Reuven Koret

[HighlyOpinionated]

Only if Indonesia allowed dual citizenship could Barry have reverted to his when he returned to Hawaii, but it does not and there's no proof that Barry was a US Citizen to start with. It appears that both Barry and his mother became Indonesian citizens at about the same time, if not the same time, that Lolo Soetoro adopted Barry. Barry became an Indonesian Citizen and there is no documentation that he ever reverted (if he could) to US Citizenship or became a US Citizen. It appears that he used his Indonesian Birth Certificate as an adult, in 1981, to visit his mother in Indonesia and a college friend in Pakistan. This would preclude any speculation that his Grandparents Dunham adopted him so that he could be a US Citizen.

If Barry Soetoro aka Obama cannot prove he is a US Citizen, then he has violated State and Federal Election laws by running for Senator in Illinois and for Illinois, he has broken Federal voting laws if he ever voted in an election, and he has "changed his name to hide his true identity" and perhaps obtained a Social Security Card fraudulently.

Barry Soetoro aka Obama is in a heap o' trouble.

[Polarik]

Don't forget to mention this damning flaw:

I reported this last Friday.

The top fold on the FactCheck photo runs diagonal (left side of fold is 20 pixels further down than the right side of fold) while top fold on the FactCheck image runs perfectly horizontal with the top border.

The embossed Seal is barely visible under edge detection, while all of the other eight COLBs bear prominent Seal images.

Even the photo of the COLB shows a perfectly-made seal impression.

Bye-bye, FactCheck

[pissant]

But, but, but you MUST concentrate on the ‘issues’, Ron. This is just a distraction. Forgery Schmorgery. We need to talk about health care plans and trade policy.

[razorback-bert]

He released it, you chose not to believe those who inspected it.

You are correct in that.

Dan Rather had an expert give his seal of approval to Dan's docs.

I want a second opinion here too.

[TheNewPundit]

“Dan Rather had an expert give his seal of approval to Dan’s docs.”

I’ll give you this, I am reminded of Rathergate when it comes to this story also. Only it seems the sides have changed.

[TheNewPundit]

“And to think that one day, some many years ago you were someone’s bundle of joy.”

So no answer then.

[razorback-bert]

So, what is your problem with a proper vetting of Obama’s document?

I don't trust Obama or his backers, there is plenty of evidence that they didn't do due diligence on his background.

There wasn't a question, until his family in Kenya started saying he was born there. I don't blame his backers for not considering his birth status, but there is a question now. One known forgery has been presented and vouched for by Obama, who is to say that a second isn't being floated.

Only document experts say vouchsafe this one.

[TheNewPundit]

It’s at his headquarters for all to see. Go look.

[9YearLurker]

Wouldn’t that be something? Our very first illegal immigrant, ‘undocumented’ President! And there’s even the Clinton wing of the Democrat party, afraid to turn off their pro-illegal and illegally-registered-to-vote constituencies by calling him on it!

This isn’t ‘motor voter’, this is ‘any resident can be President’ rules! (Where’s Jesse Sr when you need him?)

What did Barry’s supporters know—sitting around the Bill Ayers kitchen table there—and when did they know it?

It’s got to have at some point been like Clark Rockefeller’s McKinsey wife, where she knew what was up but wasn’t any more inclined to come clean on it than her imposter husband was.

[razorback-bert]

It’s at his headquarters for all to see. Go look.

What good would that do? I don't have anything to compare it too and am not an expert in that field.

Why is it so hard for some to think that people attempting to gain the power of the US Presidency wouldn't stoop to forgery.

[TheNewPundit]

Then find a friend to take with you, maybe someone from the State Department.

[Polarik]

Pong!

Israel Insider - late to the party, as usual.

Here's a Fact Check:

It's been almost twelve weeks since this fraud surfaced from the Obama swamp, and I've survived the usual, empty rhetoric of the Lefties who love to say that white is black, fully expecting the rest of us to nods our heads in agreement.

I recommend that we do not engage them in conversation, because they will always subvert it when they are stumped for answers. One, in particular, sounds more like a trained parrot than provocateur, with "Ark...no it's not," "Ark...no he didn't," "Ark..your full of @##$%"

Anyway, you get my drift.

My favorite of all the canned responses I've heard for these past 12 weeks is that "scanner artifacts" are to blame for everything and anything they cannot answer. I'm still waiting for someone to show me "scanner artifacts" between some letters and not others.

Forget about Googling it, or foraging on Photobucket for it, there are no images of "Scanner artifacts" anywhere on the Internet. But, does that stop the critics from claiming that "scanner artifacts" rank right up there with BigFoot, the Roswell UFO crash, the Loch Ness monster, and global warming.

In closing, I have to say that it must really bite to be on the wrong side of this issue, and I'm glad that I'm not one of them

The FactCheck paper COLB looks more like it came from the forged image, and not the reverse.

[Polarik]

Good stuff, when I want an analysis of the validity of a BC I will trust polarik and techdude long before factcheck.

Thanks, but please do not mention Techdude in the same sentence as me.

[LucyT]

Thanks, Polarik.

Ping.

Please FRmail if you want on or off this list.

[Polarik]

It has not been proven to be a forgery. That is a rumor that won’t die. The issue about a forgery is regarding a scanned image of the certificate. Factcheck held the actual certificate, not a scanned copy. It has the seal and the signature. If he were running around with a fake, the state of Hawaii would take issue.

Care to bet on that? Logic goes right out the window when it comes to Obamassiah and his disciples. Which part of him is NOT crooked?

FactCheck has never produced anything real: printed or imaged. OBama has ducked it as well.

The image is a fake. The paper COLB is a fake. FactCheck forgot to remove some of those "Scanner artifacts" in their photos of it.

[Kevmo]

Forget about Googling it, or foraging on Photobucket for it, there are no images of “Scanner artifacts” anywhere on the Internet. But, does that stop the critics from claiming that “scanner artifacts” rank right up there with BigFoot, the Roswell UFO crash, the Loch Ness monster, and global warming.
***Good stuff. Bump.

[BossLady]

"it must really bite to be on the wrong side of this issue"

Albert Einstein:

'Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.'

[SunkenCiv]

The substitution must take place after the convention and before the election; it’ll tick off Obama’s supporters, and delegitimize Hilla- er, the eventual substitute — Joe Biden.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks.

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[Political Junkie Too]

Is the file number irrelevant, as the campaign now claims, or is it a data that could be used to hack into the system, as Hawaii claims. If it is irrelevant, why is Janice Okubo providing excuses for the Obama campaign? If it is dangerous for data security, why is the Obama campaign ignoring that danger?

Of course, this is a red-herring.

Even if it were dangerous, how many people from Hawaii have COLBs with a number on it? Why would only Obama's be "dangerous" when anyone who knows someone from Hawaii with a COLB could get this information?

Are there no Hawaiian-born hackers who would have this information without Obama's COLB?

-PJ