Our Daughter's Hawaii Birth Certificate vs. Obama's

Marble Wallet ^ | September 6, 2008 | Stayfree

[Stayfree]

Compare Obama's supposed birth certificate with that of our youngest daughter who was born at Kapiolani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. Even though hers was prepared about 10 years after his, note that hers is similar in form to that of us old folks and our parents and grandparents with lots of info, whereas his contains very little info.

[Stayfree]

At the risk of being mortally wounded by hundreds of sharp tongues here on FR, I ask you to compare our youngest daughter's Hawaii birth certificate with Obama's supposed birth certificate. For privacy purposes, I have whited out certain family names. Note that her birth date is about 10 years after his and yet her certificate contains much more info and signatures. You can't see it on these two reduced size images, but the perforation seal is not the same on both certificates. I compared our original to the blown up version of his and they are not the same.

[Saundra Duffy]

That is very interesting. Thank you. I love it when FReepers dig in and uncover the truth.

[muawiyah]

I believe the answer developed by other Freepers was that this is a "long form" version and Obama's is a "short form" version ~ in brief, nothing exciting about this, per se.

Printing techniques change; computer systems are updated; basic technologies are replaced by entirely new techniques that are not exactly comparable;, etc.

Hawaii like every other state has a "data base" and as requested they spin off Certificates of Live Birth (long form, short form, etc).

Hawaii, like every other state, has a procedure for revising the information contained in the data base.

The result is something a tad more "fluid" than the "birth certificates" from the distant past.

[MassExodus]

Is the bottom one supposed to be (Zero)bamas?!

Looks like is was generated 5 years ago on the same P.C. as Bush's National Guard records.

[Incorrigible]

Where did that folded image of Obama’s birth certificate come from? That’s the first time I’ve seen a photo of a hard piece of paper.

The image that was faked was only a front-on image.

I haven’t been watching this very closely so I may have missed something.

[Clairity]

Thanks for posting an authentic Hawaii birth certificate.

The Obama birth certificate on the net is as phony as a three dollar bill.

If he had nothing to hide, why didn’t he authorize some reputable news agency, like FoxNews to get a copy of it directly from the Hawaii authorities?

[Stayfree]

Apparently, some people have tried to get copies from Hawaii to no avail. Usually they are only released to certain blood relatives, but I don’t know how they could adequately know who is a relative and who is pretending to be one.

[stlnative]

Would you tell us where you got the image of Zero Boy’s birth cert.

[Stayfree]

I actually copied it from the other thread here on FR:

The Silence of Obama

[DieHard the Hunter]

> Printing techniques change; computer systems are updated; basic technologies are replaced by entirely new techniques that are not exactly comparable;, etc.

You’d be right about that. I have two short-form British Columbia birth certificates. Both are for me: one done in 1963 and the other in 1981. The colors are similar (not the same) and the design is similar (not the same) but there are some significant differances, too.

I’ve also got a long-form New Zealand birth certificate for each of my two kids. Both printed within days of their births, a few years apart. Both significantly different in many respects.

You Yanks will have something similar: there will be design differences in your birth certificates due to all the reasons you gave, and more.

What is illuminating, tho’, is that Obama has not profferred his true Certificate to halt the speculation. And it is dam’nable that the electoral processes in the US do not require these documents to be produced, seeing how you have a requirement for being born in the US in order to be eligible to run for POTUS.

[FreedomProtector]

Anyone know what the status of the lawsuit regarding this filed by a Democrat in federal court is?

http://miami.indymedia.org/news/2008/08/11649.php

School record that lists “Barry Soetoro,” a.k.a. Barack Obama, as Indonesian citizen (AP photo)

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=73214

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/08/22/msm-ignores-democrat-lawsuit-against-obama

[stlnative]

Well the CERT # is very clear...

151 1961-010641

[Stayfree]

The other thread here on FR has some updated info about Berg's lawsuit:

The Silence of Obama

[stlnative]

[stlnative]

WHERE DID THIS PHOTOGRAPH OF OBAMA’S CERT LAYING ON A TABLE COME FROM?

[Clairity]

I went to the Hawaii website and indeed only relatives can get it, but the person whose birth certificate is being requested can authorize others to receive it.

“An applicant/requestor must provide the information needed to 1) establish his/her direct and tangible interest in the record ....

If you are applying for a certificate on behalf of someone else, you must provide an original letter signed by that person authorizing the release of their certificate to you. “

http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/vital_records.html

I would say that we all DO have a “direct and tangible interest” in Obama’s birth certificate, since he may be our President.

Any lawyers out there want to try for this angle?

[stlnative]

sorry... I see your response now.

[aShepard]

...................Usually they are only released to certain blood relatives, but I don’t know how they could adequately know who is a relative and who is pretending to be one......................

Maybe we could bribe his hut dwelling half brother George, with a ten dollar bill. It would almost double his annual living allowance.

[PhatHead]

The forms were produced 28 years apart and the differences between them really mean nothing at all.

[mad_as_he$$]

Offer Barry's brother $1,000 to fly form Africa to Hawaii and get a copy for us. that would be about 500 times more than the average wage in his home town.