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Follow-up: Obama's Birth Certificate. Why the hoopla?
atlasshrugs ^ | July 20, 2008 | Unsure

Posted on 09/13/2008 10:08:55 PM PDT by NoRedTape

In questioned document analysis there are several methods for detecting forgeries – the most basic of which is to conduct a side by side evaluation of known good samples to compare against the questioned one and to use an alternate light source to highlight the changes in the color and density of the inks and paper......


TOPICS: Government; Society
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; elections; nobama; obama
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Does Barack Hussein Obama have a verified Birth Certificate, or not?
1 posted on 09/13/2008 10:08:55 PM PDT by NoRedTape
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To: NoRedTape

Is Obama a U.S. Citizen? NO! If he truly was a citizen the birth certificate would have been cleared by now.


2 posted on 09/13/2008 10:11:51 PM PDT by Ancient Drive
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Has Barack Hussein Obama’s eligibility been settled for his Senate seat? What about PRESIDENT? Where is his Birth Certificate? How can he ‘run’ if his Birth Certificate isssue is still unresolved?


3 posted on 09/13/2008 10:17:09 PM PDT by NoRedTape
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To: NoRedTape
How can he ‘run’ if his Birth Certificate isssue is still unresolved?

Yeah, you can't even get a driver's lisence without a birth certificate. How on earth can you run for president if you don't have to submit your birth certificate? Especially since it's in the Constitution that you have to be born in the U.S. in order to be president.

4 posted on 09/13/2008 10:45:52 PM PDT by FrdmLvr ("I don't know of a single thing Obama has done except talk and write". -- Newt Gingrich)
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To: Ancient Drive

He has a US passport so he cleared whatever hurdles the state dept. had. Unless he got it not on the up and up.


5 posted on 09/13/2008 10:47:51 PM PDT by xp38
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having a US passport means nothing. An American parent can petition for one even if the birth occurred on foreign soil. I gained my US passport because my parents became naturalized citizens before my 16th birthday.


6 posted on 09/13/2008 10:59:03 PM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: NoRedTape

Shouldn’t we let him run? It looks like (and hopefully it won’t change) that he will lose.


7 posted on 09/13/2008 11:01:26 PM PDT by Bellflower (A Brand New Day Is Coming!)
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To: xp38
He has a US passport so he cleared whatever hurdles the state dept. had. Unless he got it not on the up and up.

He allegedly at the age of 20 traveled to to the middle east on his Indonesian passport!!!

Any questions???

8 posted on 09/13/2008 11:24:11 PM PDT by danamco
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To: NoRedTape

Here’s a video about Obama’s “lost” birth certificate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf1khAaQhJE


9 posted on 09/14/2008 12:03:53 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.youtube.com/cafenetamerica)
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To: NoRedTape
I'm sorry that last video offered limited info on the birth certificate. Here's the one I meant to send:
Expert: Obama Birth Certificate "Probable Forgery"
10 posted on 09/14/2008 12:20:26 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.youtube.com/cafenetamerica)
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URL

Expert: Obama Birth Certificate “Probable Forgery”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DO54ZxxY8W0

Why is it he cannot find it? What if after he is elected it’s found out that his birth certificate is fake and he’s not really American?


11 posted on 09/14/2008 12:23:01 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.youtube.com/cafenetamerica)
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Actually its a moot point. Even if it was a fake passport and he was born in Kenya (which I don't believe), he's still a US citizen because of his mother was a natural born US citizen. The red herring is, everyone is looking at the law which states that the mother must have been a citizen for at least 5 years after her 16th birthday (impossible since she was only 18)-- but that is for American WIVES of foreign husbands. Barack Obama Sr. was already married in Kenya when he met Barry's mom and since bigamy is illegal in the United States, any marriage ceremony between the senator's parents was invalid. The law at that time was the child of an UNMARRIED American mother was a natural born citizen if mom was a US citizen who'd lived on American soil for at least one year.

8 USC 1409 (c) Notwithstanding the provision of subsection (a) of this section, a person born, after December 23, 1952, outside the United States and out of wedlock shall be held to have acquired at birth the nationality status of his mother, if the mother had the nationality of the United States at the time of such person’s birth, and if the mother had previously been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year.

So regardless of where Senator Obama was born, since he's certainly a bastard, he's certainly eligible for the presidency.

12 posted on 09/14/2008 3:02:02 AM PDT by Maximum Leader (run from a knife, close on a gun)
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To: Maximum Leader; TigersEye

Interesting point. At the same time, a forged birth certificate is still a crime. His sisters BC apparently was used to look like his. Thus, at least two should be prosecuted, and it is a scandal.

So after BO gets basted over his mocking a tortured war hero for not writing emails, and once he’s thoroughly tarred and feathered over his sex ed for kindergarteners, if there’s any flesh left on his hide, this can peel some more off.


13 posted on 09/14/2008 3:11:04 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (DRILL HERE! DRILL NOW! You guys are great! FReep on! I'm overdue toTCB.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Its a crime if he did it, but good luck proving that. Even if he masterminded a conspiracy to forge the birth certificate, there would be cutouts in both Chicago and Hawaii insulating him from personal knowledge or responsibility. I don’t know what kind of jail time forging a birth certificate will get you, but his money guys could throw millions to any fall guy needed to keep his mouth shut.

But there’s no way in Hades he did any such thing. Obama taught at one of the top 2 or 3 law schools in the country, he’s a smart enough to know the law (and to know his parents weren’t legally married). What motive would he have to forge a birth certificate that he knew he didn’t have to?


14 posted on 09/14/2008 3:32:13 AM PDT by Maximum Leader (run from a knife, close on a gun)
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"Actually its a moot point. Even if it was a fake passport and he was born in Kenya (which I don't believe), he's still a US citizen because of his mother was a natural born US citizen. The red herring is, everyone is looking at the law which states that the mother must have been a citizen for at least 5 years after her 16th birthday (impossible since she was only 18)-- but that is for American WIVES of foreign husbands. Barack Obama Sr. was already married in Kenya when he met Barry's mom and since bigamy is illegal in the United States, any marriage ceremony between the senator's parents was invalid. The law at that time was the child of an UNMARRIED American mother was a natural born citizen if mom was a US citizen who'd lived on American soil for at least one year."

8 USC 1409 (c) Notwithstanding the provision of subsection (a) of this section, a person born, after December 23, 1952, outside the United States and out of wedlock shall be held to have acquired at birth the nationality status of his mother, if the mother had the nationality of the United States at the time of such person’s birth, and if the mother had previously been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year.

So regardless of where Senator Obama was born, since he's certainly a bastard, he's certainly eligible for the presidency.

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Great answer, and truly amazing to me. I wonder why that hasn't been FULLY discussed - at least on Fox News? And then there's a question of the authenticity of the Birth Certificate, too. If he was legally compliant, why all the questions on the authenticity of his birth certificate?

15 posted on 09/14/2008 4:40:13 AM PDT by NoRedTape
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To: xp38

My wife has a US passport and she was born in Taiwan. All on the up & up. The issue isn’t whether Obama is a citizen, it’s whether he’s natural born under the constitutional requirement of eligibility for president.


16 posted on 09/14/2008 8:42:25 AM PDT by Kevmo (Obama Birth Certificate is a Forgery. http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/certifigate/index?tab=articles)
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To: Kevmo

that’s what I meant. Is he a natural born citizen?


17 posted on 09/14/2008 8:49:52 AM PDT by Ancient Drive
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All he has to do is produce the birth certificate. Why all the rigamarole? Why the forgery on his website? Because he wasn’t born here.


18 posted on 09/14/2008 8:53:55 AM PDT by Kevmo (Obama Birth Certificate is a Forgery. http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/certifigate/index?tab=articles)
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To: Maximum Leader

Whether BO did it isn’t my point. His sister’s birth certificate is reportedly involed. Someone close to his campaign broke the law. I also have to ask why? What is the Obama campaign hiding?


19 posted on 09/14/2008 10:53:27 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (DRILL HERE! DRILL NOW! You guys are great! FReep on! I'm overdue toTCB.)
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To: Kevmo

Um, what if he is a citizen and his baby daddy is the commie-mentor ‘Frank’ as in “Dreams of My Father” and not the Kenyan whom he later claimed his namesake?


20 posted on 09/14/2008 8:51:30 PM PDT by Gemsbok (CIC means Commmander in Chief,....NOT CommunityOrganizer in Chief)
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