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Obama's half-sister's name found on "his birth certificate" posted on campaign's official site
Israeli Insider ^

Posted on 10/11/2008 11:56:03 AM PDT by dascallie

Claim: Obama's "birth certificate" forged with sister Maya's original By Israel Insider staff August 5, 2008

Independent analysts, working separately, claim to have discovered that the original Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth used in the fabrication of the Barack Obama "birth certificate" belongs to the Presidential candidate's younger half-sister, Maya.

Examining the high resolution image originally posted by the "Daily Kos" left-wing blog and subsequently claimed as authentic by the campaign, and posted in lower resolution on the campaign official "Fight the Smears" website, at least two analysts have been able to independently discern the name "Maya Kassandra Soetoro" from artifacts left behind in the process of forging a new fake document for Barack from an image of Maya's original document. Additional confirmatory information, such as her birthday and the nationality of her father have also been resurrected. A full report documenting all details is to be published in the coming days. Israel Insider has not yet seen proof that would validate the claim.

http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/13040.htm

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TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; issues; obama; obamafamily
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To: dascallie; Polarik
This article is from August.

Wasn't this story debunked as fake, because the Texas Darlin' "expert" Techdude was proven to be a fraud?

-PJ

81 posted on 10/11/2008 12:50:47 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (You can never overestimate the Democrats' ability to overplay their hand.)
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To: Cyropaedia

Well according to Mr. Know It All, it really doesn’t matter. Factcheck.org says it’s true, case closed.


82 posted on 10/11/2008 12:51:28 PM PDT by autumnraine (McCain/Palin 08)
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To: newfreep
He must be a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born_citizen
83 posted on 10/11/2008 12:52:10 PM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: VeniVidiVici
So then what’s your opinion on this lawsuit filed by Democrat lawyer Berg in Philly? It hasn’t been thrown out.
Courts are reluctant to throw things out. Most judges would rather err on the side of giving people their day in court. A ruling on this is probably worth more than just throwing it out.

In 2000, some people sued in Federal Court to have Cheney disqualified as the VP candidate. That suit was allowed to progress even though it was a sure loser. And it lost.
84 posted on 10/11/2008 12:52:31 PM PDT by Mr. Know It All (Quicumque vult salvus esse, ante omnia opus est, ut teneat catholicam fidem)
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To: newfreep
Section 1 of Article II of the Constitution contains the clause:

“ No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

85 posted on 10/11/2008 12:53:16 PM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: palmer

It would appear everything needed to prove if it is a forgery is in the picture. Since this type of document is a matter of public record just request the document from the state. the date of filing and the record number are both on the scanned image.


86 posted on 10/11/2008 12:53:52 PM PDT by Kadric
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To: Mr. Know It All
Here is a link to a high resolution version of the image.

Interesting how the background is all discolored around the letters in his name...
87 posted on 10/11/2008 12:53:52 PM PDT by Brown Deer
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To: Brown Deer
Interesting how the background is all discolored around the letters in his name...

could be a jpeg image artifact

88 posted on 10/11/2008 12:54:52 PM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald

Not sure what to make of this as I’ve not been keeping up but... ATLAS EXCLUSIVE: FINAL REPORT ON OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/07/atlas-exclusive.html


89 posted on 10/11/2008 12:58:33 PM PDT by anglian
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To: TommyDale

We have evolved past the need for proof, especially with someone so important as The One needing to be in charge. We cannot allow mere rules to get in His way.


90 posted on 10/11/2008 12:59:51 PM PDT by kenth (Will Rogers never met Barack Obama.)
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To: Brown Deer
Interesting how the background is all discolored around the letters in his name...
It is interesting. It's an artifact of vector quantizing lossy compression algorithms. Compression systems such as JFIF will unavoidably have distortion around sharp edges due to the nature of discrete cosine transforms. Interesting stuff, indeed.
91 posted on 10/11/2008 1:00:29 PM PDT by Mr. Know It All (Quicumque vult salvus esse, ante omnia opus est, ut teneat catholicam fidem)
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To: Mr. Know It All
In 2000, some people sued in Federal Court to have Cheney disqualified as the VP candidate.

Why?
92 posted on 10/11/2008 1:00:33 PM PDT by Brown Deer
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To: newfreep

Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m understanding that if only one parent is a citizen, then you have dual citizenship, and at some point in time or age have to declare your allegiance to one or the other country.

But the other factor here is that Obama was adopted by Luo Sotero and thus became an Indonesian citizen, losing his American citizenship. Watch the Berg video; it explains it more clearly.


93 posted on 10/11/2008 1:02:05 PM PDT by Sisku Hanne (The day begins and ends in Alaska.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Wow! I really haven’t been following the ‘fake COLB’ story much (there’s too much else to get BO on). But...Techdude was a fraud?!


94 posted on 10/11/2008 1:06:34 PM PDT by tsmith130
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald
From the wiki link:

Persons born in the United States, and persons born on foreign soil to two U.S. parents, are born American citizens and are classified as citizens at birth under 8 USC 1401.

Was barry's father a US citizen at the time of his birth? If not, it sure looks like 'ol barry is not qualified.

95 posted on 10/11/2008 1:08:00 PM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: tsmith130; All

Crazy idea here... but the question seems to be “wasn’t his sister born in Indonesia?”

That may be the point. What if she was the one born in Hawaii and he in Indonesia instead of Kenya?

Maybe I’m missing something, but that seems more likely. Then date and name are the only issue with the certificate.


96 posted on 10/11/2008 1:09:28 PM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - Me... I'm ignorant but I do know this; God is our only hope!)
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To: Mr. Know It All
Interesting stuff, indeed.

Yes, I have many years of experience in the field of digitized imagery. ;)
97 posted on 10/11/2008 1:09:33 PM PDT by Brown Deer
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To: Brown Deer
The suit was based on the "habitation clause" of the 12th Amendment with basically says that the Pres. and Vice. Pres. can't come from the same state or territory. Just weeks before becoming the VP candidate, Cheney was a resident of Texas, just like Bush.

To avoid the habitation clause, Cheney quickly switched his home address to Wyoming. The problem is that if you or I had done so, we would not have been legally able to claim Wyoming residency. I think you have to live there 6 months or something.

I don't know what the exact ruling was, but I think the argument was that Cheney was "politically" from Wyoming, having been their Congressmen for several years. It would have been weird if the court had taken a more narrow view. We would have had Lieberman as Bush's VP.

There is plenty of evidence that Obama was born in Hawaii just as he says. Although it is a popular debate tactic here, insisting, "That proves nothing!" doesn't actually work in a courtroom.

98 posted on 10/11/2008 1:11:05 PM PDT by Mr. Know It All (Quicumque vult salvus esse, ante omnia opus est, ut teneat catholicam fidem)
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To: Mr. Know It All

Violence, in addition to being criminal, will be counter-productive.


99 posted on 10/11/2008 1:12:33 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Does Obama know ANYONE who likes America, capitalism, or white people?)
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To: Gordon Greene
and he in Indonesia instead of Kenya?

lol, Are you trying to say that his mother was having an affair with Soetoro while she was pregnant with Obama's son?
100 posted on 10/11/2008 1:13:07 PM PDT by Brown Deer
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