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Why Doesn't Toyota USA Need A Bailout?
Nietzsche is Dead ^ | 12 Nov 08 | foutsc

Posted on 11/12/2008 11:41:02 AM PST by foutsc

So the Big Three are asking for a government handout... You should write your representatives and ask them this question:

Why are the Big Three going broke and asking for taxpayer money while Toyota USA is expanding?
Ford, GM and Chrysler have become as sclerotic as the liberal states that host them. Like the failed state of Michigan, the Big Three promised goodies to the masses and now they have the gall to ask the American taxpayer to fund their generosity. Note to nanny-state liberals (in government and on corporate boards): It's not generosity when you do it with other people's money!

If you want to get mad, go read this WSJ article about how GM pays people to not work. Speaker Pelosi is worried about excessive executive pay when she should be focusing on excessive executive stupidity.

So why isn't Toyota in trouble? Pro-union folks will tell you it's because down south they are able to exploit their workers. Well, maybe Detroit didn't exploit its workers, but it's now extorting money from the entire country as a reward. Despite what Democrats tell us, our nation does not have one uniform economic policy. Each state and locality employs distinct taxation, employment and business laws that affect employment rates and wages. We can study these various economies to learn what works and what doesn't. People in Illinois, Ohio and Michigan can tell you that things ain't workin' there. Is it President Bush's fault, or is it the fault of corruption, high taxation, and business unfriendly state governments?

Professor Phil Gramm points the finger at dysfunctional state governments:

Business conditions were better in the successful states than in the lagging ones. Capital and labor gravitated to where the burdens were smaller and the opportunities greater.

No one should let Michigan politicians blame their problems solely on the decline of the U.S. auto industry.

Yes, Michigan lost 83,000 auto manufacturing jobs during the past decade and a half, but more than 91,000 new auto manufacturing jobs sprung up in Alabama, Tennessee, Kentucky, Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia and Texas.

The facts show that soak the rich policies, over-regulation, and yes, overreaching unions, destroy jobs. States like Ohio and Michigan have only their failed liberal policies to blame. And the same can be said for the welfare queens who run the Big Three: They overpromised and undersold on pensions and benefits. You can pile the goodies sky high, but somebody has to pay the bill. Toyota knows this, as does Texas, Tennessee, and Florida.

Liberal Democrats and the press (but I repeat myself) will be trying to convince you otherwise. Arm yourself against their economic nonsense by going here and reading the entire article on state economies. I also recommend you read everything written by the erudite and highly entertaining economics professor Walter E. Williams. Here is a quote from his web site:

"We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." -- Aesop
Walter E. Williams home page:

Gramm Article on State Economies

TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: aflcio; automakers; bailout; bho2008; bigthree; cardcheck; chicagomob; chrysler; congress; democrats; economy; environmentalists; ford; gm; hoffa; honda; michigan; nissan; obama; pelosi; reid; seiu; taxes; teamsters; toyota; uaw; unions
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1 posted on 11/12/2008 11:41:02 AM PST by foutsc

To: foutsc

Maybe because Toyota is run like a business instead of a socialist experiment?

2 posted on 11/12/2008 11:42:46 AM PST by antiRepublicrat

To: foutsc
UAW chief urges $25 bln in U.S. auto health care support (Union bailout-payback for $400,000,000)

Who's your DADDY Obama??

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3 posted on 11/12/2008 11:43:31 AM PST by Fred (The Democrat Party is the Nadir of Nihilism and BO is a WHINING marxist)

To: foutsc


4 posted on 11/12/2008 11:43:58 AM PST by Petronski (Things fall apart, it's scientific.)

To: foutsc

The government isn’t bailing out the Big Three, it’s bailing out the UAW.

5 posted on 11/12/2008 11:44:22 AM PST by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)

To: foutsc

“Alabama, Tennessee, Kentucky, Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia and Texas”

If the Big Three want to rebuild themselves and make money, move to these states. Screw the Union states. Let them eat the handouts from the Democrats they keep on voting into their Statehouses!

6 posted on 11/12/2008 11:44:35 AM PST by The South Texan (The Drive By Media is America's worst enemy and American people don't know it.)

To: foutsc

And what about subaru???
setting all time sales records this year:

Im a proud driver of a 2007 Outback!

7 posted on 11/12/2008 11:44:43 AM PST by housedeep

To: foutsc

Recent TV ads mention a very plain looking little car, the Chevy Malibu, as being “affordable(TM)” at something like $25,000. Somebody needs to start living in the real world or something like that....

8 posted on 11/12/2008 11:44:57 AM PST by varmintman

To: foutsc

Why should tax money from Virginia, Alabama, Tennessee etc., go to prop up a failed business model in Detroit.

9 posted on 11/12/2008 11:45:56 AM PST by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)

To: foutsc

I unofficially award you with Post of the Year.

The only post I can think of that was better was the one outting Dan Rather from Buckhead.

This succintly puts into perspective the act of sodomy about to be perpetrated on us by Congress.

10 posted on 11/12/2008 11:46:22 AM PST by RinaseaofDs

To: foutsc

Why does a Japanese company not need a US bailout?

11 posted on 11/12/2008 11:46:59 AM PST by allmost

To: foutsc

Each Big 3 autoworker costs $30 more per hour than those working for the foreign automakers building in the US. Most of that is retiree and pension benefits. The latest deal negotiated actually will bring labor costs for the Detroit companies in line with those of the foreign makers, but the deal does not take effect until 2010. IF the Big 3 make it to 2010, they will be able to compete on a level playing field for the first time with Toyota, Honda, etc.

12 posted on 11/12/2008 11:47:58 AM PST by Azzurri

To: RinaseaofDs
I unofficially award you with Post of the Year. The only post I can think of that was better was the one outting Dan Rather from Buckhead. This succintly puts into perspective the act of sodomy about to be perpetrated on us by Congress.

Thank you. And thank you for the graphic but accurate description of what is happening to us.

13 posted on 11/12/2008 11:48:49 AM PST by foutsc (Nietzsche is Dead)

To: foutsc

Maybe Toyota gives the driving public cars they (the public) want, not what Detroit says we should have ... quality too comes into the picture...

14 posted on 11/12/2008 11:49:24 AM PST by SkyDancer ("I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice")

To: allmost

Because some of those States listed are not States? You have me stumped.

15 posted on 11/12/2008 11:52:57 AM PST by 1rudeboy

To: 1rudeboy

Currency manipulation is commonplace in Asia. Not the entire cause, but a contributing factor here.

16 posted on 11/12/2008 11:56:55 AM PST by allmost

To: allmost

So how does currency manipulation in Asia affect Japanese auto makers in the U.S.? They pay in dollars, not yen.

17 posted on 11/12/2008 11:58:07 AM PST by 1rudeboy

To: The South Texan

You’re missing the plan.
Right to work will be eliminated.
Instant unionization will be implemented via card check.
Imports will be tariffed and regulated (heck they can say Reagan did that for Harley back in the 80s).

The unions spent hundreds of millions electing Democrats - and they expect a big payback in 2009.

18 posted on 11/12/2008 11:58:54 AM PST by nascarnation

To: foutsc

reference bump

19 posted on 11/12/2008 11:59:31 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Jimmah Carter cubed. Obama, the only man in America who can make Hillary Clinton look good.)

To: Azzurri
The so-called Big Three will not be able to compete with Toyota, Honda, etc. until their workers (the few who actually build cars) ditch the UAW and their stockholders demand a management team that has a clue about how to design, build, and market vehicles that people want to buy at a price that covers the full cost of producing them.
20 posted on 11/12/2008 12:00:54 PM PST by riverdawg

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