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Why Doesn't Toyota USA Need A Bailout?
Nietzsche is Dead ^ | 12 Nov 08 | foutsc

Posted on 11/12/2008 11:41:02 AM PST by foutsc

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Why does a Japanese company not need a US bailout?

I presume you meant to say why does a US Affiliate of a Japanese company not need a US bailout?

Why are the Big Three going broke and asking for taxpayer money while Toyota USA is expanding?
Lots of "Japanese" cars are made in America while "American" cars are made in Mexico.
81 posted on 11/12/2008 3:46:50 PM PST by VRWCmember
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To: 1rudeboy
In fact, one of the primary reasons manufacturers locate overseas is to avoid “dealing” with the foreign exchange rate, so I don’t think you fully comprehend how things work.

Not exactly.

Why Multinational Firms Arise – Firms decide to invest and operate abroad primarily for one of the following reasons:

Firms that locate manufacturing facilities overseas do not avoid "dealing" with foreign exchange rates at all, so that is NOT a primary or even secondary reason for locating operations overseas. From the transaction exposure of converting contracts for parts, sales, and expenses from the host country currency back to the local currency, to the translation exposure of converting financical statements from the local currency of the subsidiary to the home currency of the parent company, to the strategic exposure of fluctuation in parent home currency terms of the long term cash flows of a foreign operation, the foreign currency risk is several orders of magnitude higher for companies with overseas operations.
82 posted on 11/12/2008 4:04:52 PM PST by VRWCmember
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To: VRWCmember

Honestly, I don’t think you understand what you just posted.


83 posted on 11/12/2008 4:12:22 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Honestly, I don’t think you understand what you just posted.

What I posted was (in part) a paraphrase from my notes of the discussion of why multinational firms arise from the textbook I use for the International Finance class that I teach: Multinational Business Finance, 11th Edition, by David K. Eiteman, Arthur I. Stonehill, and Michael H. Moffett, Addison-Wesley Longman, 2006

84 posted on 11/12/2008 4:24:44 PM PST by VRWCmember
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To: VRWCmember

Then maybe you misunderstood me: I am arguing that one of the reasons companies locate their operations overseas is to minimize their risk with regard to exchange rates.


85 posted on 11/12/2008 4:32:16 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: VRWCmember

Tax breaks are the same. The unions are the #1 cause, taxes are #2.


86 posted on 11/12/2008 4:46:08 PM PST by allmost
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To: foutsc
Why Doesn't Toyota USA Need A Bailout?

I might be wrong so don't flame me but didn't Honda recently open a new plant in Indiana????????

87 posted on 11/12/2008 4:48:04 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (soon to be pushed over the line. Payback is going to be a bitch......)
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To: OrioleFan
love it when Detroit touts a hybrid that gets 30 MPG, and my ‘07 Camry hybrid gets 33 in city and 40+ on highway

My 1995 Honda Del Sol gets 32 MPG city and around 40 MPG on long trips.....P>

Cost at purchase: $16,000.00

88 posted on 11/12/2008 4:56:07 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (soon to be pushed over the line. Payback is going to be a bitch......)
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To: 1rudeboy
Then maybe you misunderstood me: I am arguing that one of the reasons companies locate their operations overseas is to minimize their risk with regard to exchange rates.

I got that, and my point in responses was that (1) minimizing exchange rate risk is not one of the considerations in locating plants overseas, and (2) locating plants overseas actually creates new exchange rate risks (while in some cases also creating hedging potential for other exchange rate risks) rather than reducing exchange rate risk.

89 posted on 11/13/2008 6:05:38 AM PST by VRWCmember
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To: VRWCmember

Are you assuming that the foreign plant assembles with imported parts, or sources its parts domestically?


90 posted on 11/13/2008 6:43:00 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

I’m not assuming either, and it isn’t germane to the reasons for operating abroad. The reality is usually a combination of both. A “japanese” vehicle assembled in a US factory probably has anywhere from 20% to 40% domestic US content and the remainder is “imported” content. So for the Japanese parent company there is currency exchange activity related to the timing of the transfer of the imported content, and there is currency exchange activity related to the flow of funds from the American affiliate back to the parent company and there is currency exchange activity related to the translation of the financial statements (income statement, balance sheet, etc) from dollars back to yen for the consolidated financial statements of the parent company.


91 posted on 11/13/2008 6:49:20 AM PST by VRWCmember
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To: nascarnation

If memory serves...H-D was hit hard by the big four rice grinder mfrs., who “dumped” beaucoup big displacement motorcycles into the USA in the late Seventies/early eighties. They (H-D)asked for a temporary tariff to give them a chance to regroup and, when they had recovered, asked Congress to lift the tariffs BEFORE they were scheduled to expire. H-D went on to do well. The last year or so have been troubling, but for entirely different causes...SSZ


92 posted on 11/15/2008 3:22:37 PM PST by szweig (Had it up to here)
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To: varmintman

Our friends were looking to trade in their 2004 GMC SUV and buy a new one; what they found is none of the dealers are “dealing”... at least not in SoCal.. they are thinking they will keep the one they have, even though he puts on a lot of miles each year.


93 posted on 11/15/2008 3:24:24 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: wolf78

If card check passes what will these foreign companies do when the UAW goes in and tries to organize?


94 posted on 11/15/2008 3:32:46 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: nascarnation
Honestly, I don’t think it would survive a collision with my Wheel Horse garden tractor.

You'd be surprised how safe most small cars are these days.
95 posted on 11/17/2008 10:18:45 AM PST by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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To: foutsc

I can’t find this at the link.
Can you help?


96 posted on 11/23/2008 11:45:43 AM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: netmilsmom

Here you go...
http://warskill.blogspot.com/2008/09/michigans-liberal-policies-betrayed-its.html


97 posted on 11/23/2008 12:22:35 PM PST by foutsc (Nietzsche is Dead)
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To: SkyDancer

I got my wife a 2009 Toyota Corolla sport model with all sorts of suspension and traction options. Its a physically larger car then its predecessor corolla’s but its gas mileage is a solid 32 miles around town and 40 on the highway...on 10 per cent Ethanol brands! Good power, good acceleration and handling at less than 18k. And what sharp cool lines in an electric royal mettalic blue!

Why can’t Detroit put together models like that for that price!!!?


98 posted on 11/23/2008 12:35:38 PM PST by mdmathis6 (I'm Mike the RN!( I often do plumbing of a different sort))
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To: foutsc

Sure, since we bailed out the world’s banks, we might as well bail out the world’s car manufacturers too, even if they don’t need it.

The point is to bankrupt America and destroy our domestic economy by nationalizing parts of it, and putting the rest out of business. Corruption abounds in the Treasury and Congress these days.


99 posted on 11/23/2008 12:40:26 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: mdmathis6

Because they don’t think we want that ... they make what they “think” we’d like ...

I remember grandad telling me stories about the muscle cars he and his friends built in H/S in the ‘50... so along comes Detroit finally with their version ... they they totally screwed it up .... the T’bird first, then the Mustang ....turned them into large family cars when all the people wanted was an European type sports car ....


100 posted on 11/23/2008 12:41:38 PM PST by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad, Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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