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To: Enterprise
I assume I was pinged to this thread for the question of how to get a court to rule on this issue. I've written about that before until I'm blue in the face, so I'll be very brief, this time.

The real presidential election hasn't taken place yet. The Electors don't meet in the state capitals until 5 December. Courts are scared witless over this case, which is why every one to date has found some basis for dismissing the cases filed (usually standing). It doesn't help that the lawyers bringing these cases have a bone-rattling lack of knowledge about bringing election law cases.

The one plaintiff who could force a court to decide this issue, rather than running screaming into the night to avoid the issue, would be a Presidential Elector pledged to support Obama. State laws require that Electors vote as pledged. However, state courts are required to obey and enforce the US Constitution.

Therefore, if an Obama Elector (probably one with prior ties to the Clintons) brought a declaratory judgment action in STATE court, to resolve the conflict between a law that says vote for Obama, and the Constitution which says Obama is not eligible. The court, even the Supreme Court eventually, would HAVE to decide that case.

There are other reasons, including precedents in state courts, which I have skipped here. Suffice to say, I have tried more cases concerning the right of presidential candidates to appear on the ballot, than all the attorneys who have messed around with these birth certificate cases put together. That includes two wins in the US Supreme Court (for Gene McCarty in 1976, and for John Anderson in 1983).

This can be done, if it is done right. But time is running out for a competent case that the courts would HAVE to decide.

Congressman Billybob

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122 posted on 11/23/2008 3:17:00 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (Larest book: www.AmericasOwnersManual.com)
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To: Congressman Billybob

It just occurred to me that one thing Polarik deomonstrates in this update of his work is that numerous people are now complicit in this fraud. I’m curious what the legal implications are.

Evidently Obama is not just guilty of running for POTUS when he is not qualified, but is also guilty of complicity in a serious case of forgery.

The same can be said of FactCheck and whoever was involved with posting the COLB pictures on their website. They didn’t just take pictures of a certified document that was given to them. They evidently printed out hard copies of the original forgery, folded it, and then took photos of it from various angles. And lied about the dates while they were at it. Isn’t this complicity in a felony? Or at least, won’t it rise to that if Obama takes his OATH of office?


125 posted on 11/23/2008 3:30:29 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Thank you very very much. I deeply trust your expertise on these matters.


129 posted on 11/23/2008 3:58:30 PM PST by Enterprise (No oil for Democrats!)
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To: Congressman Billybob; Calpernia; Fred Nerks; null and void; pissant; george76; Polarik; ...

Thank you for your patience, Congressman Billybob

Pinging to this thread again in case anyone would like check out #122, #124 and #125.


134 posted on 11/23/2008 5:16:52 PM PST by LucyT (.......................Don't go wobbly now.......................)
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To: Congressman Billybob
This can be done, if it is done right. But time is running out for a competent case that the courts would HAVE to decide.

Seems to be it doesn't really matter WHEN justice is served, as long as it is. (Of course the sooner the better - but if Obama is sworn in and has his family installed in the WH, it is not irreversible even then if violating the Constitution could be proved.) Am I wrong in my thinking?
148 posted on 11/23/2008 6:40:45 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: Congressman Billybob
“The one plaintiff who could force a court to decide this issue, rather than running screaming into the night to avoid the issue, would be a Presidential Elector pledged to support Obama. State laws require that Electors vote as pledged. However, state courts are required to obey and enforce the US Constitution.

Therefore, if an Obama Elector (probably one with prior ties to the Clintons) brought a declaratory judgment action in STATE court, to resolve the conflict between a law that says vote for Obama, and the Constitution which says Obama is not eligible. The court, even the Supreme Court eventually, would HAVE to decide that case.”

If such a case were brought to a State Court by an Elector pledged to Obama, wouldn't the issue of whether he is Constitutionally qualified have to be decided in Court first? Then once a ruling was made that Obama is not qualified, the Elector would be free to vote for someone else. Guess that would bring it back to first getting a ruling that Obama is NOT a “natural born” citizen. What do you think the chances are that Donofrio's case will be heard and a ruling will result that Obama is NOT a "natural born" citizen?

154 posted on 11/23/2008 7:23:32 PM PST by seekthetruth
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