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Why is the Media Silent on the Obama Birth Certificate Question?
Cross Action News ^ | 12-01-08 | Rev. Michael Bresciani

Posted on 12/01/2008 9:00:22 AM PST by Victory111

Why has every major news source in the United States almost totally blacked out all reference to the Hawaiian Obama birth certificate controversy?

In layman’s terms the mainstream media may be afraid of showing up with egg on its face. Yet, the question about the allegedly fraudulent COLB (certificate of live birth) doesn’t want to go away. It is more than simple curiosity that is driving the quest; it is a strong desire for the truth and the hope of avoiding a constitutional crisis that would be unparalleled in our entire history as a nation.

(Excerpt) Read more at crossactionnews.com ...


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; obama; stbc
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1 posted on 12/01/2008 9:00:23 AM PST by Victory111
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To: Victory111
I think that this is how this problem should be and will be resolved: The Supreme Court will accept the case and will rule that the child of any U.S. citizen is a Natural Born Citizen, regardless of where in the world he or she is born.
2 posted on 12/01/2008 9:03:18 AM PST by Savage Beast ("Your grandchildren will live under communism." -Nikita Krushchev)
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To: Victory111
I would think that if there were nothing to the story, the mainstream media could use the birth certificate/Indonesian upbringing issues to demonstrate how “unhinged” the right has become.

The fact that they are not doing so may indicate that they are not 100% sure that the issue is a non-starter.

3 posted on 12/01/2008 9:03:27 AM PST by cvq3842
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To: Victory111

Why doesn’t anyone see if he holds any kind of security clearance? The application for a clearance will show verification of date and place of birth.


4 posted on 12/01/2008 9:06:06 AM PST by stuartcr (If the end doesn't justify the means...why have different means?)
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To: Victory111

Stark, staring FEAR.

*If* he skates into the WH in spite of all the evidence/doubts/questions surrounding his eligibility, he -will- remember who did or did not “bring it up”.

When the “Fairness Doctrine” returns, those who did are done for.


5 posted on 12/01/2008 9:06:50 AM PST by Salamander (Welcome to Obamageddon! The best apocalypse foreign money can buy!)
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To: Victory111

For the same reason they were silent on his “coke head” problem and went nuts over Bush’s drinking.


6 posted on 12/01/2008 9:08:42 AM PST by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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To: Victory111

For those who have been under a rock for the last two years, the media is in the tank for HUSSEIN. Silence on this issue takes the evidence of conspiracy to a new level.


7 posted on 12/01/2008 9:08:47 AM PST by hsrazorback1 (To get what you had, do what you did.)
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To: Savage Beast

Leo’s case is different.

I’m not going to rehash his main point, plenty of relevant discussion out there.


8 posted on 12/01/2008 9:09:48 AM PST by Doug TX
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To: Victory111
Great piece by Rev. Bresciani.

The MSM, BTW, is now into the "natural-born Citizen" contoversy, albeit through the "back door," with the publication of the full page ad today in the Chicago Tribune.

9 posted on 12/01/2008 9:10:44 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: Victory111

Why was mainstream media silent on clintoon’s bimbos for 6 years not including the year on the campaign trail. All we heard about was how bad the economy was and not one word of clintoon’s womanizing. Why was that?

Mainstream media played the same game with osama hussein. Not one word before or after about the constitutionality question of whether osama should even be running, not anything about the 17 lawsuits in 12 states challenging his right to be prez, not one word about two SCOTUS justices accepting two lawsuits. Mainstream media is doing the American people more harm than good. MSM wants to influence the news not report it.


10 posted on 12/01/2008 9:11:19 AM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Savage Beast
The Supreme Court will accept the case and will rule that the child of any U.S. citizen is a Natural Born Citizen, regardless of where in the world he or she is born.

Retroactively? Wouldn't they be making law?

-PJ

11 posted on 12/01/2008 9:11:32 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (You can never overestimate the Democrats' ability to overplay their hand.)
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To: lilylangtree
And John Edwards' love child. And Jesse Jackson's love child while ministering to Clinton after he was caught with Lewinsky.

-PJ

12 posted on 12/01/2008 9:13:14 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (You can never overestimate the Democrats' ability to overplay their hand.)
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To: Victory111
The Miami Herald appears to be just now discovering that a controversy exists (see opening paragraph: "what might be the first post-election court challenge to Barack Obama's qualifications").
13 posted on 12/01/2008 9:14:22 AM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative (ACORN is a criminal enterprise)
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To: Victory111
Be sure to put up your Google Bomb referencing relevant pages for the Obambi birth certificate issue.

Keep the links updated on the link above.

14 posted on 12/01/2008 9:16:49 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: Victory111

Where are the modern-day Woodward and Bernsteins looking into this story? I would bet a month’s pay that if a Republican was elected to the Presidency with this same issue or questionable citizenship status, the press would be all over it.


15 posted on 12/01/2008 9:17:32 AM PST by Signalman
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To: Political Junkie Too

>>The Supreme Court will accept the case and will rule that the child of any U.S. citizen is a
>>Natural Born Citizen, regardless of where in the world he or she is born.
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>Retroactively? Wouldn’t they be making law?

Yep. And besids that, no ex post facto law or bill of attainer should be made, by order of the Constitution. (”After the fact” and a “law targeting one person” respectively.)


16 posted on 12/01/2008 9:19:02 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Can anyone find the chicago tribune full page add
(actual paper) and post it as a story?


17 posted on 12/01/2008 9:19:03 AM PST by OL Hickory (hear that sound..its a hammer hitting the nail on its head!!)
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To: Victory111

Because they’re the ‘4/5 Media’ — 4th branch of government, 5th column.


18 posted on 12/01/2008 9:22:45 AM PST by polymuser (Bye, bye Miss American Pie.)
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To: stuartcr

“Elected Officials” (Senator, President etc.) according to the following article, are not required to obtain a security clearance to have access to classified information.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Does_the_US_President_need_a_security_clearance

As one who held security clearances in both the military and in civilian life, I find it hard to believe but I’m not surprised.


19 posted on 12/01/2008 9:23:20 AM PST by Signalman
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To: Victory111

The liberals do not foresee the calamity that an Obama presidency will bring, but it is quite easy to foresee the chaos and pain that removing him over a “technicality” will cause. If they had a genuine crystal ball to see the fruits of their labor 2-3 years down the road, their silence today would probably be regretted.

Then again, maybe they are all just a bunch of commies.


20 posted on 12/01/2008 9:24:38 AM PST by Safrguns
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To: Bobkk47

I realise that, but they may still have them if required. Does anyone know if he has one?


21 posted on 12/01/2008 9:26:11 AM PST by stuartcr (If the end doesn't justify the means...why have different means?)
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To: Victory111
Okay I relate this to the recently reported (here) national civics test. In that the general public scored 49 percent, and elected officials scored worse at 44 percent. And if I had to guess I beat the average journalism major would score in the 30's, and the average mainstream media person same or even lower.

Dismal, abysmal, know-nothings.

Yet where do Freepers score? We had a thread where people reported their scores -- vanity distorts that self-reporting for sure, but I'm guessing based on my long experiences here and from that thread -- Freepers would score on average in the mid 80's to mid-90's.

That is,

  1. WE ARE THE ONES WHO KNOW THINGS.

  2. The Media, the elected officials -- they are incredibly ignorant.
It is their shame and envy, of we Freepers and allied intellectuals and patriots, that keeps them quiet, for even ignorance does not keep a man silent when an obvious question keeps arising again and again.

Shame of their ignorance and envy of ours. Yet we are more than happy on our parts to share what we know, we wich none to be bogged down in the swamps of ignorance.

Their ignorance is willful, so thus their shames and envies -- they will come to demand that we be removed, all our words, all our speech, rather than that our hard earned wisdoms be ever seen or heard.

* * *

Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/25/AR2008112502104_pf.html

Voters Fail the Test

Out of 2,500 American quiz-takers, including college students, elected officials and other randomly selected citizens, nearly 1,800 flunked a 33-question test on basic civics. In fact, elected officials scored slightly lower than the general public with an average score of 44 percent compared to 49 percent.

Only 0.8 percent of all test-takers scored an "A."

That "0.8 percent" is we Freepers, imo. We are the intellectual vanguard of America and the World.
22 posted on 12/01/2008 9:29:53 AM PST by bvw
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To: ml/nj; firebrand; rmlew; dennisw; juliej; Nancee; Marysecretary; montag813; ncfool; David; ...

Ping!!!


23 posted on 12/01/2008 9:32:14 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: Victory111
Why is the Media Silent on the Obama Birth Certificate Question?

Because if they did their job and reported the news, then people would know about it, and that would be bad.

24 posted on 12/01/2008 9:32:17 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: cvq3842

“The fact that they are not doing so may indicate that they are not 100% sure that the issue is a non-starter.”

If it was not a non-starter, Obama would have produced a birth certificate, instead of racking of $100Ks in legal fees.

Hmmm, let’s see: (1) $12 fee to the clerk of Hawaii and putting nasty rumors to rest or (2) spending a couple of million and creating nasty rumors?

It’s a no-brainer, unless there is something to hide.


25 posted on 12/01/2008 9:38:22 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware of Obama's Reichstag Fire; Don't permit him to seize emergency powers.)
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To: Savage Beast
The Supreme Court will accept the case and will rule that the child of any U.S. citizen is a Natural Born Citizen, regardless of where in the world he or she is born.

Great, so the kids of illegal aliens can run for President then.

26 posted on 12/01/2008 9:47:48 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Victory111

You cant get to Leos blog page anymore for an update...GOOGLE has removed it completely...The socialist, obamanites and the MSM must be besides themself.


27 posted on 12/01/2008 9:57:58 AM PST by Reflex (SSCDD (same socialist crapola different day))
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To: Savage Beast
The Supreme Court will accept the case and will rule that the child of any U.S. citizen is a Natural Born Citizen, regardless of where in the world he or she is born.,/i>

Uh, no chance in Hell. The Supreme Court cannot amend the Constitution, and that is exacty what it would take for this to ever happen.

28 posted on 12/01/2008 10:00:53 AM PST by Polarik
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To: Victory111; LucyT; Mr. Silverback; pissant; bert
The way this poseur, Barack Hussein Obama--if that is in fact the legal name--is handling this issue of his place of birth/naturalization is most telling of the man's contempt for the Constitution and what he will place ahead of the nation. Obama comes first in his calculus, and somewhere down the list of priorities is 'the nation's interests'.

All of his life has been a latter-day affirmative action lesson. His promotion on several levels has followed the fading model of affirmative action, allowing him to manipulate 'the system' for his own promotion. He has now sealed his records at all levels, to prevent revelation of his manipulating the system as he so chose, taking advantage of lax authentication especially where a 'black' person seeking affirmative action was relevant.

Two or three incidents in his life will illustrate the machinations: 1) Obama has sealed from the public his transcripts from High School AND from college at all levels, which effectively also hide from view the name(s) he used and nationalities he claimed to apply for various college entries and programs such as funding assistance;

2) When Obama was a college student, he traveled on a visa to Pakistan; such travel was restricted for American citizens but was open to Indonesians; since Obama was an Indonesian citizen of record for his schooling while his adopting father Mister Soetoro registered him for schooling there, Obama could have applied for and held an Indonesian passport but has sealed that record from scrutiny, for obvious reasons;

3) All through Obama's primary and election process, when a question of Obama's associations and past were cited for query, the David Axelrod method for dealing with any controversy was to layer lies on the issue that obfuscated the truth: such as the claim that in 20 years of sitting in Wright's church Obama never heard the man malign America, or the absurd lies told regarding William Ayers, beginning with Axelrod's idiocy--savored by the sycophantic media and repeated by such leftist fools as Mara Liasson on Hume's FOX program--of 'perhaps Obama and Ayers met casually at school functions since their children attended the same schools'!

Of course none of these deceptions would work for more than a week if it were not for the fifth column enemy of We The People--the media bastards propagandizing for their Marxist messiah--avoiding airing any of the controversies with even a modicum of objectivity, and in fact spewing the layered lies for the campaign and the handlers. But then, the media showed they relish a well placed lie more than the truth, with the eight years of constant lies from bill 'sinkEmperor' clinton, the media's dead-soul hero.

Sean Hannity has stated that this election was the year journalism died in America. More accurate would be the observation that this election was the point at which the socialist media went finally over to the dark side, transmogrifying themselves from faultering fourth estate to active fifth column enemy of We The People. [Imagine a Calvin and Hobbs transmogrification of a mailman into a monster stalking Spaceman Spiff ...] But then, Sean is more of a gentleman than I am, so he would never state it that way.

Obama's way of dealing with these controversies regarding his past and his identity prove he cares not a whit for the Constitution or the People who have sought to allow him to ascend into the applied for affirmative action position.

Obama is a wicked man, as he proved in dealing with the issue of born alive infants in Illinois ... he actively sought to cancel their Constitutional rights which incur to them upon being born alive in this nation, in order to protect the murder of these newest citizens via purposed neglect.

Obama was actively protecting a murder methodology being used in the SOuth-side Chicago abortuaries where a majority of the childrne killed are black children. Yet black people never heard this truth about Obama because the fifth column enemy actively withheld it from the people, selecting what truths about this wicked man they would report.

A fading affirmative action hire of a questionable candidate for the position applied for would not be creating a Constitutional crisis if one of two things were in order: either We The People shut up and sit down while this fraudulent candidate ignores the Constitutional requirements for the applied for position, or the once honorable fourth estate would report the full truth about this fraudulent poseur candidate so the people could makke an informed decision on this affirmative action applicant for president. The fifth column enemy of We The People is creating a very volatile scenario, perhaps aimed at extorting the affirmative action hire for their messiah. If bloody rioting comes, one can only hope the enemies of We The People--in the media--are expunged/destroyed in the process. [http://porchmaunderings.blogspot.com]

29 posted on 12/01/2008 10:07:46 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: cvq3842
The fact that they are not doing so may indicate that they are not 100% sure that the issue is a non-starter.

I'm pretty sure the MSM know it's a "starter" and they are avoiding it at all cost. If they ignore it, they can keep it as fringe. If they thought there was nothing to it, they'd be mocking us for being lunatics.

Rush, Hannity, etal either have gotten word from above to keep quiet or they are frightened to death of the Fairness Doctrine, or both. Too bad they put their careers above country.

The GOP may be keeping quiet because they know McCain would also be disqualified. Somehow I think if McCain had been elected, there would be just as many suits to disqualify him.

30 posted on 12/01/2008 10:08:50 AM PST by christie
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To: Savage Beast
I think that this is how this problem should be and will be resolved: The Supreme Court will accept the case and will rule that the child of any U.S. citizen is a Natural Born Citizen, regardless of where in the world he or she is born.

I have read at another thread that he may not be the biological son of Stanley Dunham. If he is not, he would not be a U. S. citizen regardless of the COLB or BC.

31 posted on 12/01/2008 10:12:00 AM PST by Know et al (Everything I know I read in the newspaper and that's the reason for my ignorance: Will Rogers)
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To: MHGinTN

great post


32 posted on 12/01/2008 10:14:26 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Save America......... put out lots of waferin)
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To: Polarik

“The Supreme Court will accept the case and will rule that the child of any U.S. citizen is a Natural Born Citizen, regardless of where in the world he or she is born.,/i>
Uh, no chance in Hell. The Supreme Court cannot amend the Constitution, and that is exacty what it would take for this to ever happen.”

Correct. If this issue is not settled before Hussein is sworn in, Barry will be subject to criminal charges...on a number of laws.

As a side note, thank you Polarik for your expertise in helping to expose this fraud.


33 posted on 12/01/2008 10:18:55 AM PST by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: MHGinTN; Victory111; LucyT; Mr. Silverback; pissant; bert

My method of battle - Conservative pop-rock songs.

My offer still stands: email me at chris@patriotmusiconline.com for a free mp3 of the Obama-eligibility song “Where Were You Born?” You can listen via livestream at www.patriotmusiconline.com. It is critical that we get this information out there into the mainstream...I figured after the election i’d have to think CREATIVELY to find a way to help.

Free Republic is the best clearinghouse on the planet for intelligent discussion- Do any of you guys have better ideas for how i can disseminate this song? I’ve had exposure on the G. Gordon Liddy radio show, along with a program called “Captain’s America” (Matt Bruce). I’m trying to connect with some of the bigger bloggers out there, but no luck so far...


34 posted on 12/01/2008 10:20:25 AM PST by mills044 (Spread the truth via music! www.patriotmusiconline.com)
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To: stuartcr; Bobkk47

Before becoming Senator, The One has never, AFAIK, held a job that required a security clearance. He got access to whatever classified materials were necessary for his job as a Senator, but that did not involve any kind of background check.

The man is a bit of a cypher, to put it mildly.


35 posted on 12/01/2008 10:22:25 AM PST by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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To: MHGinTN; Calpernia; Fred Nerks; null and void; pissant; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; Polarik; ...

Thank you, MHGinTn.

Ping to #29

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2140861/posts?page=29#29

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Check out #22 on this page, too.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2140861/posts?page=22#22

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Comment #143:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2140760/posts?page=143#143


36 posted on 12/01/2008 10:23:49 AM PST by LucyT (.......................Don't go wobbly now.......................)
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To: Polarik
The Supreme Court cannot amend the Constitution...

Unfortunately, the SCOTUS has in fact amended the Constitution by its decisions quite a number of times during the past 100 years without explicitly stating so. The net result has been an ever growing and powerful government and ever diminishing civil liberties for the private citzen and the private sector.

37 posted on 12/01/2008 10:24:27 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: Victory111

The Chicago Tribune has a great ad that addresses Obama’s probable fraud re being a viable candidate re his citizenship.

This is the search link in Yahoo. Easy to use and easy to “light up links”.

Please bump, ping and email this to your friends.

http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=utf-8&fr=slv8-hptb5&p=Chicago%20Tribune%20Ad%20demands%20Obama%20prove%20citizenship&type=


38 posted on 12/01/2008 10:26:32 AM PST by Grampa Dave (This is the link to Leo Donofrio's new website: http://thenaturalborncitizen.blogspot.com)
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To: bvw

I’d be confident that Obama voters averaged even lower on that national civics test than the general public’s pathetic score. Democrats aren’t called Dummycrats without reason.


39 posted on 12/01/2008 10:30:11 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: Savage Beast
I think that this is how this problem should be and will be resolved: The Supreme Court will accept the case and will rule that the child of any U.S. citizen is a Natural Born Citizen, regardless of where in the world he or she is born.

Rep. Bingham commenting on Section 1992 said it means “every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.” This national law does not endow upon any person allegiance through birth alone as was the custom under the old English common law practice but only recognizes citizenship of those born to parents who do not owe allegiance to another nation. In other words, national law prevented the creation of conflicting dual citizenships between other nation’s citizens.

Secretary of State Bayard ruled under Section 1992 of U.S. Revised Statutes in 1885 that although Richard Greisser was born in the United States, his father at the time of his birth was a subject of Germany, and thus, Richard Greisser could not be a citizen of the United States. Furthermore, it was held his father was not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States under the Fourteenth Amendment.

The constitutional requirement for the President of the United States to be a natural-born citizen had one purpose according to St. George Tucker:

That provision in the constitution which requires that the president shall be a native-born citizen (unless he were a citizen of the United States when the constitution was adopted,) is a happy means of security against foreign influence, which, wherever it is capable of being exerted, is to he dreaded more than the plague. The admission of foreigners into our councils, consequently, cannot be too much guarded against; their total exclusion from a station to which foreign nations have been accustomed to, attach ideas of sovereign power, sacredness of character, and hereditary right, is a measure of the most consummate policy and wisdom. … The title of king, prince, emperor, or czar, without the smallest addition to his powers, would have rendered him a member of the fraternity of crowned heads: their common cause has more than once threatened the desolation of Europe. To have added a member to this sacred family in America, would have invited and perpetuated among us all the evils of Pandora’s Box.

Additionally, Charles Pinckney in 1800 said the presidential eligibility clause was designed “to insure … attachment to the country.”

What better way to insure attachment to the country then to require the President to have inherited his American citizenship through his American father and not through a foreign father. Any child can be born anywhere in the country and removed by their father to be raised in his native country. The risks would be for the child the return in later life to reside in this country bringing with him foreign influences and intrigues.

Therefore, we can say with confidence that a natural-born citizen of the United States means those persons born whose father the United States already has an established jurisdiction over, i.e., born to father’s who are themselves citizens of the United States. A person who had been born under a double allegiance cannot be said to be a natural-born citizen of the United States because such status is not recognized (only in fiction of law). A child born to an American mother and alien father could be said to be a citizen of the United States by some affirmative act of law but never entitled to be a natural-born citizen because through laws of nature the child inherits the condition of their father.

40 posted on 12/01/2008 10:31:21 AM PST by danamco
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To: Savage Beast

Well, you might think that way, but that would only apply from here on out.


41 posted on 12/01/2008 10:34:13 AM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: Victory111

I don’t think even the Supreme Court has the courage to ask Obama for his long form original vault copy BC.

I was listening to Bill Handel this morning who had done something last week (didn’t hear that show) that was SARCASTICALLY against Obama, but not actually. He voted for Obama. Yet this morning he was reading the hate mail he got from that day, from idiots who did not understand that it was all in jest.

These Obamaricans were clueless, but man, were they vulgar and mean. They called Handel every name in the book. He said he would print the letters on his page on the KFI website.

I remember when some Republicans in Congress didn’t want to remove Clinton from office, or even read all of his offenses (that were on display in a room in the Capitol somewhere - many never even visited to check the evidence), and their excuse was that they didn’t want to throw the American people into chaos by so doing.

This would be far worse, if Obama is not qualified. I hope he is. If he is not qualified, many Obama voters will not see it as remaining true to the Law our country was founded upon. They will start up with how slavery was wrong, the Founding Fathers didn’t know jack, and what does it matter where Obama was born: he was duly elected. And the MSM will agree with them.

No one would have the courage to risk all that. And yet that would be the correct thing to do.


42 posted on 12/01/2008 10:39:42 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Bobkk47

I think I am going to encourage my politically minded children to consider journalism. We need some good conservative journalists in this country to keep the checks and balances.


43 posted on 12/01/2008 10:43:01 AM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: Victory111

Everyone should read Edwin Viera’s article posted on the net today.

http://www.thebulletin.us/site/news.cfm?newsid=20210273

Viera is a Harvard honors grad for BA, MA, JD and PhD. He ws not on the foreign student affirmative action program.

The article has a few incredible points:

1. If Obama signs any law that has a criminal penalty like his No Abortion (aka Dead Baby) Left Behind law. A criminal defendant can demand O produce his BC and he will have to provide it. The defendant will have a team of forensic people who will most likely prove it is a fraud. All hell will break loose then.

2. O by not producing the BC is committing a major fraud and Viera or any (sane) attorney would quit as counsel for O. He makes no mention if O could be criminally charged.

3. This thing is not going to go away. Lawsuits will be filed even after he is sworn in. Laws, appointments, treaties, actions, amendments or just about anything he does could be thrown out. This will cause legal and Constitutional chaos. The Supreme Court Justices, in my view, cannot punt on this thing. It is legal and Constitutional aramgeddon caused by O and the DNC.


44 posted on 12/01/2008 10:43:45 AM PST by Frantzie
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To: Citizen Blade

Well, AFAYK, probably isn’t really good enough. He may have needed one as a senator, AFAAKs.


45 posted on 12/01/2008 10:45:43 AM PST by stuartcr (If the end doesn't justify the means...why have different means?)
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To: justiceseeker93
Snarky and nasty silliness passes for intelligence on Jon Stewart's The Daily Show, on You Tube, and from the likes of Bill Maher. And here's today's example (Cracked.com):
[iPhone app] The Constitution

Imagine it's a lazy Sunday morning. You're lounging about in your most comfortable thong, enjoying some German horse pornography--then suddenly there's a knock at the door. It's Barack Obama's Communist Police force, there to take your guns! Free Republic was right!

Fortunately, you know your rights because you're the proud owner of the Constitution reference application. Though the developer neglected to include a search function, so this program is best utilized by those that have already memorized the Constitution. And that's you... right?

Funny, right? Sure. Just like nitrous -- laughing gas -- makes one 'funny' -- the long term effects of indulging such slandering and cynical humor are utter stupidity, a mental derangement that is like an edgy senility. I can name one culture where such humor was common.

Because I've watched "Cabaret". That is, they got the 'german animal porn' reference right -- but strangely the reference is to those who who enjoy such 'sophisticated' humor! That is, to the reader of 'Cracked'. To the writer of this piece -- it was in his mind that the image first sprung up. And why was that, eh?

We all go through phases of our life where such biting, nasty cynical humor is welcome. Yet we tend to get out of such rumps, or get older, wiser, kinder. In time we learn to shut it out, to see it as the rot-gut liquor it is. It provides a short immediate relief, but makes one sick and comes to rot the gut.

46 posted on 12/01/2008 10:52:24 AM PST by bvw
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To: stuartcr
He may have needed one as a senator, AFAAKs.

Members of Congress get access to whatever classified documents they need to do their jobs. They're not subject to a background check for such access- being elected is, essentially, the background check.

47 posted on 12/01/2008 10:53:54 AM PST by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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To: Frantzie

The Supreme Court Justices, in my view, cannot punt on this thing.


The closest they can come to punting is to remand the case back to the lower court with an order requiring production of the birth certificate.

Once that occurs (if it ever occurs) a determination can be made regarding his true status. If the losing side is unhappy with that conclusion, an appeal can be taken to contest the application of the law to the facts contained in his BC.

I wouldnt mind if it goes down like that. Remanding the case for further proceedings will give everyone a heads-up that sonmething may be amiss, and allow the masses to prepare themselves for a further ruling on the case.


48 posted on 12/01/2008 10:54:47 AM PST by Canedawg (The media is a ass, a idiot.," said Mr. Bumble.)
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To: danamco
You are of course aware that when Obama was born--wherever he was in fact born--his mother did not meet the legal requirement in that day to pass citizenship to him. So that avenue for American citizenship is moot. He may have been physically born in Hawai'i, but that has yet to be shown for eligibility factors.

Obama has admitted/asserted that he had British citizenship at birth through his father and hthus at birth held 'dual citizenship'.

Since his mother could not legally pass U.S. citizenship to him in 1961--since she had not been in America for five years past her 14th birthday; she was eighteen when he was born--Obama's assertion that he held duial citizenship at birth is factually fraudulent and he knows it. Thus he is lying and trying to promote himself for affirmative action promotion outside of Constitutional requirements.

Obama and his media sycophancy are promoting this affirmative action candidate as 'president elect'. There is no such title. The effrot is designed to astroturf the bastard into office. David Axelrod is a consummate 'astroturfer'. [For those in Rio Linda, astroturfing is a deceitful way to fabricate a plausible poseur; Axelrod made his reputation on such deceits in corpoprate America.] Do we really want such an arrogant prick being the president?

49 posted on 12/01/2008 11:03:30 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

I’ve been reading everything, someone is saying, not me, that that argument about her not living 5 consecutive years after her 14th birthday probably does not in fact apply to her circumstances. I believe the poster said this was written more in terms of foreigners who come here. It may be wrong but that seems to be one of the weaker arguments. Now, there are so many threads on this topic.


50 posted on 12/01/2008 11:07:52 AM PST by RGPII
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