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Was Plague Outbreak Really an Al Qaeda Chemical Weapons Mishap?
Washington Times/Yidwithlid ^ | 1/20/09 | Yidwithlid

Posted on 01/19/2009 10:00:52 PM PST by Shellybenoit

That little attack of bubonic plague may have been a Biological Weapons screw up. The al-Qaeda cell wiped out by Black Death may have infected ITSELF while developing biological weapons according to some sources.

The terrorists to infect on Western targets but fell victims to their own weapon, a leading expert on chemical warfare believes.

The news broke yesterday that the plague killed at least 40 fanatics at a terror training camp in Algeria earlier this month. It was thought they caught the disease through poor living conditions in their forest hideouts. Well maybe not according to the Washington Times:

(Excerpt) Read more at yidwithlid.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; bubonicplague; plague; wmd; workaccident

1 posted on 01/19/2009 10:00:54 PM PST by Shellybenoit
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To: All

GreenDragon ping


2 posted on 01/19/2009 10:02:56 PM PST by BellStar (Please God give us another Chance!)
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To: Shellybenoit

Who cares, murderous terrorists are dead.


3 posted on 01/19/2009 10:03:05 PM PST by wastedyears (In Canada, Santa says "Ho Ho, eh?")
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To: Shellybenoit

Maybe this will be the test for Obama?

Great. Obama AND plague. Is this Egypt?


4 posted on 01/19/2009 10:03:56 PM PST by ReneeLynn (Socialism, it's the new black.)
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To: Shellybenoit

They live with the cave rats.


5 posted on 01/19/2009 10:04:18 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: All

Related link with updates:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2167129/posts


6 posted on 01/19/2009 10:05:21 PM PST by Cindy
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To: wastedyears

At first blush, one readily agrees with your statement, wasted years.

But, given a second glance, I must say we should all care.

Jihad is global.


7 posted on 01/19/2009 10:06:39 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Shellybenoit
"Was Plague Outbreak Really an Al Qaeda Chemical Weapons Mishap?"

My second guess would be a little leave behind gift from a CIA Predator strike.

8 posted on 01/19/2009 10:06:42 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Shellybenoit

Ashes, ashes, they all fall down.....


9 posted on 01/19/2009 10:10:55 PM PST by dianed
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To: Shellybenoit

Hope Obama has his Bio-Hazard suit tailored to fit. Sounds like he’s going to need it.


10 posted on 01/19/2009 10:16:17 PM PST by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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To: Shellybenoit
Related thread here

Not a dupe.

11 posted on 01/19/2009 10:19:46 PM PST by null and void (KENYAN GO HOME!)
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To: Shellybenoit
Cannot discount the possibility. Maybe they got a hold of Saddam's bio weapons ? We know Al Qaeda had experimented with chemical weaponsin the past.

But not to worry. I can sleep peacefully again from tomorrow knowing B Hussein will keep us safe.

12 posted on 01/19/2009 10:19:47 PM PST by libh8er
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To: Shellybenoit
How many were not killed?

How do we know there aren't 150 others invading and infecting 15 major western cities as we speak?

13 posted on 01/19/2009 10:21:55 PM PST by GeronL (DAY 1, YEAR 0 - The first day of the Oministration. The nightmare begins.)
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To: libh8er

Pelosi had a bio bomb dropped so she can prosecute Bush and Cheney.


14 posted on 01/19/2009 10:22:27 PM PST by johnnycap
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To: Shellybenoit
http://www.kemah.net/greendragon.gif The Green Dragon Knows!
15 posted on 01/19/2009 10:24:37 PM PST by BellStar (Please God give us another Chance!)
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To: Natural Law
"My second guess would be a little leave behind gift from a CIA Predator strike. "

Respectfully I say, there's no chance. I can tell you as a former Marine with twenty, the US government is deadly serious when it come to the deployment of chemical or biological agents. In short, we don't do it - EVER.

I've never met an officer that would load a biological agent into a delivery vehicle - it is against every rule of war and our people don't break the rules of war, contrary to what Keith Olbermann et.al. believe.

16 posted on 01/19/2009 10:25:07 PM PST by Big_Monkey
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To: Shellybenoit; All
“Obama AND plague”

Look.....until now I was going to ignore the big lawn party of the party of opposition today....now I am deeply concerned for the whole silly lot of them! Please pray that God would protect our President and his band of followers no matter how misguided we may think they are they are Americans and he will be OUR President too.p>

17 posted on 01/19/2009 10:46:18 PM PST by BellStar (Please God give us another Chance!)
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To: Shellybenoit
!!!!STOP PIMPING YOUR BLOG!!!!

Plague is endemic to that region.

18 posted on 01/19/2009 11:39:42 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: Big_Monkey

Shouldn’t the enemy at least wonder if we would?


19 posted on 01/19/2009 11:52:13 PM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Shellybenoit

I love it when karma runs over a dogma!


20 posted on 01/20/2009 12:12:24 AM PST by Nateman (You know you are doing the right thing when liberals scream.)
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To: Shellybenoit

I believe this is exactly what happened.


21 posted on 01/20/2009 12:25:31 AM PST by GOP Poet
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To: Shellybenoit

I think it is quite likely and quite amusing if true, I hope they suffered greatly and had some time to regret being blood thirst monsters who wanted to inflict such a thing upon others.


22 posted on 01/20/2009 12:41:05 AM PST by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: GOP Poet

Maybe infected terrorists are coming to US cities soon. They may even be walking around Washington now! Plague might be the next 911? I will replace my tinfoil hat and renew my subscription to Conspiracy theory magazine. I really don’t think the terrorists are smart enough to think of this.


23 posted on 01/20/2009 1:22:30 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Never underestimate your enemy. I guess you are not in a war then. News to me.


24 posted on 01/20/2009 1:33:50 AM PST by GOP Poet
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
Was Plague Outbreak Really an Al Qaeda Chemical Weapons Mishap?

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25 posted on 01/20/2009 2:56:28 AM PST by SisterK (UN Headquarters should relocate to Iran)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

It would be hard to spread the plague by sending those infected with it into an area. First off, it is spread by fleas, who live on rats, and unless an infected person is bitten by a flea which then bytes an uninfected person. Flea infestations are not that rare in the US, but getting a bunch of them to bite specifically people and then bite other specific people would be tough. People who have the plague are pretty sick and probably not around long enough to share their misery with a lot of others. It was a major problem in Europe because of the living conditions. Those conditions are not prevalent in most of America today.

I am not an expert on the subject and make no claim to be. It’s possible they have found a way to spread it without the rats that carried the fleas, but if that’s the case then all bets are off.


26 posted on 01/20/2009 3:29:30 AM PST by jwparkerjr (God Bless America!)
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To: wastedyears

I sure as heck care! It gives us an idea of what they are planning. Would you care if next time they don’t make a mistake and they actually release the Plague in a city?


27 posted on 01/20/2009 4:14:43 AM PST by panthermom
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Not smart enough? Ha, they are smart, evil and very patient.


28 posted on 01/20/2009 4:18:00 AM PST by panthermom
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To: Natural Law

that is just too silly to say for so many reasons


29 posted on 01/20/2009 5:32:58 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: jwparkerjr

you need to do more reading about pneumonic plague, which is not spread by fleas, but among infected people, person-to-person, airborne


30 posted on 01/20/2009 5:34:39 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: silverleaf

Here is what the NYC Dept. of Health website says about the disease:

“Bubonic plague is usually transmitted by the bite from infected fleas; however, transmission can occur by bites or scratches from infected wild rodents and cats, or after skin contact with tissue from infected animals.”


31 posted on 01/20/2009 6:14:22 AM PST by jwparkerjr (God Bless America!)
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To: jwparkerjr

that is “bubonic plague”

Now, look up “pneumonic plague”

Pneumonic plague is the bioweapon variant


32 posted on 01/20/2009 6:53:35 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: silverleaf
The article, and several others I looked at, referred to bubonic plaque, made no reference to the other variants. That was the point of my post. Bubonic plague would be a tough one to use as a bio weapon! I'm sure someone would get suspicious if billions and billions and billions of fleas, and several hundred thousand rat hosts, were released in an American city! Sorry for the confusion. I should have been more specific. I tend to get lazy!
33 posted on 01/20/2009 7:14:30 AM PST by jwparkerjr (God Bless America!)
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To: silverleaf

I know that, but the article was about bubonic plague. It made no mention of the other variant.


34 posted on 01/20/2009 7:25:02 AM PST by jwparkerjr (God Bless America!)
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To: jwparkerjr

In the original article it also notes that the “unnamed intelligence official” discounted the report that it was specifically bubonic plague. He seems to say that they believe it is some chemical or biological agent, but that they don’t know exactly which one.

Troubling development, whatever it is.


35 posted on 01/20/2009 7:38:57 AM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: jwparkerjr

“bubonic” plague was a presumption (not an accurate one) made by the blogger who repeated an erroneous presumption made by the uneducated tabloid reporter for the Sun.

Most people are conditioned to say plague = bubonic
A classic example of spreading misinformation

The variant of plague that will be used as a bio weapon is the penumonic variant- if and when the weaponeers can figure out how to contain it for mass dispersal, such as an aerosol, and deliver it only on the intended targets. Human vectors could be used but would be a much more limited and sloppy operation

No one is going to deliver an aerosolized bioweapon like plague bacteria by a flaming missile attack, that is just stupid

However airburst delivery of chemical agents is possible as we have seen


36 posted on 01/20/2009 7:42:09 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: skr
"Shouldn’t the enemy at least wonder if we would?"

I understand what you're saying, but no. Besides the humanitarian and ethical challenges that BIO/CHEM weapons inherently have, they are also volatile, unpredictable and in some cases unctrontrolable.

If, as I believe, terrorist are experimenting with these horrible weapons, they are certain to have some type of mishap (we had plenty of them through the first half of last century). When this happens, unless the US position is clear and public and unwavering, it would be too easy to blame us. Our position on BIO/CHEM agents must be unambiguous - always.

There is plenty of confusion in this war, but one thing the enemy understands perfectly; the US possesses the most lethal fighting machine the world has ever seen. We don't need biological or chemical weapons to kick their a$$. That's why they live in caves.

37 posted on 01/20/2009 8:03:55 AM PST by Big_Monkey
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