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Texas School Fires Coach for Winning Too Big: Gen. MacArthur Would Be Disgusted
Evil Conservative Radio ^ | 27 January 2009 | EC

Posted on 01/27/2009 9:14:14 AM PST by nysuperdoodle

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To: Dr. Ursus
The losing team was lucky that they weren’t playing Mayan rules basketball!

Then again, they might have tried harder.

21 posted on 01/27/2009 9:27:44 AM PST by Drew68
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To: TexGuy

>>He was not fired until after he publicly disagreed with the school’s statement about the game. This is most likely the reason. Whether or not he was truly fired for winning by ‘too’ much is a matter of debate.<<

I think you’ve hit the kernel here.

This is not about basketball. Basketball was merely the spark.


22 posted on 01/27/2009 9:28:06 AM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in the 1930's.)
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To: nysuperdoodle

“I think it would be wrong for the coach to cheat the other team out of the lesson they learned by losing 100-0.”

Please detail the lessons learned by losing 100-0 that wouldn’t be learned by losing, say, 70-0. I breathlessly await your insights. I’m not talking here about missing shots on purpose or letting the other team shoot unopposed.

“You play sports 100% and I don’t think that the basketball court is an appropriate place to have equality-of-outcome liberalism rear its ugly head.”

So I guess you would disagree with sending in subs when the game has been decided? I mean, after all, that would lower the score some.


23 posted on 01/27/2009 9:28:27 AM PST by gracesdad
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To: Freeper
Almost 50 years later I have not understood the concept of "throwing" a game. "War is Hell."

First of all, no one is talking about throwing the game and second of all, it's basketball, not war. The coach exhibited rotten sportsmanship and deserves censure (not sure about firing). Running up the score against an obviously outclassed opponent shows a lack of class and should be criticized, not praised.

24 posted on 01/27/2009 9:28:58 AM PST by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: nysuperdoodle

I just wanted to chime in to appreciate the irony of the title; since MacArthur was fired for wanting to win.


25 posted on 01/27/2009 9:29:07 AM PST by Doohickey (The more cynical you become, the better off you'll be.)
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To: RobRoy

I was not there either but the person who did the firing reported it on the news. There is honor and respect among warriors on the field of play as well as on the field of battle. This was not honorable.


26 posted on 01/27/2009 9:29:28 AM PST by DBCJR (What would you expect?)
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To: KarlInOhio

>>When did he pull his first stringers?<<

I believe it was after the first quarter. I could be wrong. His letter is posted on another thread and he explains it there.


27 posted on 01/27/2009 9:29:31 AM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in the 1930's.)
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To: gracesdad

In my daughter’s league, when the score became over 20 point margin, Pressing was shut of by the officials.


28 posted on 01/27/2009 9:29:59 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: xsmommy

“Unfortunately, far too many freepers can’t seem to grasp the concept either. Some cannot distinguish between “running up the score” and “letting the other team win”

Good way to put it. Hard to understand how a 70-0 game would have been “letting the other team win.”


29 posted on 01/27/2009 9:30:54 AM PST by gracesdad
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To: RobRoy

Who expects to do their job well and then be publicly excoriated for it by their employers? He just returned fire. He was right to do so.

As to the score... would it be ok if he only won 50-0? Or would it have to be 20-0? or does he need to let them score? See where this is heading? It’s a slippery slope with nothing but “feelings” to guide you. It’s a symptom of a sick society that so many people want to criticize and penalize success.


30 posted on 01/27/2009 9:31:25 AM PST by nysuperdoodle
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To: RobRoy; KarlInOhio

The winning team has only 8 players.


31 posted on 01/27/2009 9:32:02 AM PST by gate2wire
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To: Doohickey

You got it! His quote re: Army Football: Upon the fields of friendly strife are sown the seeds that, on other days, in other places, will BEAR THE FRUITS OF VICTORY.”

I rest my case


32 posted on 01/27/2009 9:33:10 AM PST by nysuperdoodle
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To: gracesdad

This is nonsense. The girls on that Dallas Academy team want to PLAY basketball! Because they are playing an inferior team they can’t play the style they enjoy?

If you don’t want this to happens, don’t put schools like this on your schedule!

There is absolutely nothing wrong with what this coach did. This coach got screwed.


33 posted on 01/27/2009 9:33:19 AM PST by Onerom99
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To: massgopguy

“In my daughter’s league, when the score became over 20 point margin, Pressing was shut of by the officials.”

Same in my son’s recreational league (the only level he could play), although they could still pick the dribbler up at half court, and I never, ever saw that result in the team that was ahead losing. They might have won by less. However, there’s no such rule in high school, and I don’t think there should be.


34 posted on 01/27/2009 9:34:11 AM PST by gracesdad
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To: gracesdad

LOL, Complete horsecrap.


35 posted on 01/27/2009 9:34:29 AM PST by Onerom99
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To: KarlInOhio
When did he pull his first stringers? I heard that it was when the score was 88-0, but I haven't seen anything definitive.

Yeah, that would be my question, as well.

Keeping the starters in after it got much past 40-0, or 50-0, would be rather unseemly.

I'd probably pull the starters [for good] at about 40-0, and tell the second-stringers to stop the full-court press no later than about 60-0 [and maybe a lot sooner than that].

36 posted on 01/27/2009 9:35:21 AM PST by KayEyeDoubleDee
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To: nysuperdoodle
It’s a symptom of a sick society that so many people want to criticize and penalize success.

I don't understand this sentiment. Since when is exhibiting good sportsmanship a symptom of a sick society? Frankly I dislike the way thuggish behavior has crept into sports today. The sack dances in football, the exaggerated celebrations of touchdowns, the taunting of opponents make sports more and more unpleasant to watch. There's the sickness. We need a return to the ethics of sportsmanship and need to stop celebrating the humiliation of opponents.

37 posted on 01/27/2009 9:35:51 AM PST by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: nysuperdoodle
According to the winning coach:

The Game. The game started like any other high school basketball game across the nation. The teams warm-up, coaches talk, the ball is tipped, and then the play begins. We started the game off with a full-court press. After 3 minutes into play, we had already reached a 25-0 lead. Like any rational thinking coach would do, I immediately stopped the full-court press, dropped into a 2-3 zone defense, and started subbing in my 3 bench players. This strategy continued for the rest of the game and allowed the Dallas Academy players to get the ball up the court for a chance to score. The second half started with a score of 59-0. Seeing that we would win by too wide of a margin, running down the clock was the only logical course of action left. Contrary to the articles, there were only a total of four 3-point baskets made; three in the first quarter, and only one in the third quarter. I continued to sub in bench players, play zone defense, and run the clock for the rest of the game. We played fair and honorably within the rules and in the presence of the parents, coaches, and athletic directors for both Covenant School and Dallas Academy.

38 posted on 01/27/2009 9:36:15 AM PST by gate2wire
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To: jalisco555

Sportsmanship is doing your best and letting the cards fall where they may. Not coddling an inferior opponent. Wake up


39 posted on 01/27/2009 9:37:16 AM PST by nysuperdoodle
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

The second stringers aren’t allowed to gather game experience using their teams appropriate strategy?

This is nonsense. You don’t want this score to happen, fire the AD for putting a high school with 20 girls on your schedule.

The coach did absolutely nothing wrong.


40 posted on 01/27/2009 9:37:22 AM PST by Onerom99
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