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Pastor Shot Dead While Delivering Sermon (video)
Yahoo/ECR ^ | 08 March 09 | EC

Posted on 03/08/2009 8:01:40 PM PDT by nysuperdoodle

Today in Illinois, a man walked in and shot the pastor while he was delivering a sermon. Is it just me, or is the whole world going mad in a million different ways all at once?

A pastor shot and killed during his Sunday sermon deflected the first of the gunman's four rounds with a Bible, sending a confetti-like spray of paper into the air in a horrifying scene that congregants initially thought was a skit, police said. The gunman strode down the aisle of the sprawling First Baptist Church shortly after 8 a.m. and briefly spoke with The Rev. Fred Winters, then pulled out a .45-caliber semiautomatic pistol and began firing until it jammed, Illinois State Police Director Larry Trent said. Churchgoers wrestled the gunman to the ground as he waved a knife, slashing himself and two other people, Trent said.

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TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: christianity; churchshooting; crime; illinois

1 posted on 03/08/2009 8:01:40 PM PDT by nysuperdoodle
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To: nysuperdoodle

God save us all.


2 posted on 03/08/2009 8:04:35 PM PDT by PureSolace (Trust in God)
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To: nysuperdoodle

Such a tragic story. Looks like random insanity to me.


3 posted on 03/08/2009 8:04:38 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (The inmates are now officially running the asylum.)
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To: nysuperdoodle

Motive?


4 posted on 03/08/2009 8:07:47 PM PDT by GoCards
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To: nysuperdoodle

These chuch killings are getting scary here in the USA.

First there was the terrorist who shot up that Unitarian Chuch in Tennessee and now another terrorst attack on a Babtist Chuch today.


5 posted on 03/08/2009 8:11:17 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz

Yeah, those guns have to be stopped.


6 posted on 03/08/2009 8:12:18 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. -Will Rogers)
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To: Osage Orange

No the guns should not be stopped however, the terrorist who killed in these churches must be stopped.


7 posted on 03/08/2009 8:14:11 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: nysuperdoodle

Was it something he said?

Sorry.. Did the pastor have an affair with this wife, son, daughter? I believe later in the week we will know.


8 posted on 03/08/2009 8:15:37 PM PDT by edcoil (Slave owners could justify themselves too. Think about it Arnold.)
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To: nysuperdoodle

Here in Arkansas, the CCW law forbids the carrying of firearms into churches.

There was a bill introduced that was actually asked for by a group of churches, that would change the CCW law to allow permit holders to carry in church, if a particular church wanted to allow it (basically nothing more than to put the decision in the hands of a local church, not on the government). There was quite a bit of support for it, and the governor appeared ready to sign it - and then the bill just died...

And then new this morning of this tragic shooting... And church members getting seriously hurt while trying to disarm the shooter...

OF course, such cases will be used to further DISARM Americans, even though that is not the real issue.

Praying for the pastor’s family, his Church family, and respectable people everywhere who see this as a horrible and tragic display of evil.


9 posted on 03/08/2009 8:15:50 PM PDT by TheBattman (Pray for our country....)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
Such a tragic story. Looks like random insanity to me.

Probably right, but you know, there is an untold story about the United States in the last eight years.

We here have often remarked, laughed, scoffed and sworn about the Bush derangement syndrome that infected democrat politics since 2000. What has not been appreciated is the effect of the constant drumbeat of hate from the left, month after month, year after year.

After awhile, this incessant rain of psychopathic malignancy escapes its cage--it transcends politics and bleeds over into the culture, contaminating and polluting everything in its wake. Vulnerable damaged souls who don't even know who George Bush is, have been exposed to the generic idea that someone out there is worthy of being hated and needs to be done in. And it's OK to do it.

10 posted on 03/08/2009 8:21:07 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: edcoil

No one at the church recognised the man including the junior pastor.


11 posted on 03/08/2009 8:22:29 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: GoCards
Motive?

You will have to ask Satan...

12 posted on 03/08/2009 8:25:24 PM PDT by TheBattman (Pray for our country....)
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To: hinckley buzzard
All of which is definitely true ~ and I have no problem at all ascribing murders like this to the constant drumbeat of Leftwingtard hate ~ they hate babies, they hate whites, they hate Asians, they hate Baptists, they hate blacks, they hate, they hate, they hate....... and most of all, they despise the right of potential victims, like the poor folks in this church, to defend themselves.

Back in the days of the American Revolution the 1st and 2nd New York actually made their plans to act against the Brits INSIDE the Old Yellow Church along the Mohawk. Today, they'd all be arrested by their do-gooder Leftwingtard neighbors.

13 posted on 03/08/2009 8:26:35 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: edcoil
Was it something he said?

Sorry.. Did the pastor have an affair with this wife, son, daughter? I believe later in the week we will know.

Or maybe the Pastor spoke out against homosexuality or abortion. With the violence in Michigan and Cali from Prop 9, we may be seeing a trend.

14 posted on 03/08/2009 9:04:02 PM PDT by uptoolate (Shhh. If you listen real hard, God is speaking to America.)
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To: uptoolate

ping


15 posted on 03/08/2009 9:39:57 PM PDT by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: uptoolate

ping


16 posted on 03/08/2009 9:41:03 PM PDT by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: nysuperdoodle
The authorities really need to throw the book at this guy, He violated a gun free zone. Pass another law Illinois sheeple.
17 posted on 03/08/2009 9:45:15 PM PDT by metalurgist
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To: nysuperdoodle

This is exactly why I carry everywhere, even in church. Everyone in my congregation knows I am a cop, and I couldn’t live with myself if I let something happen to them.


18 posted on 03/08/2009 10:46:32 PM PDT by NV Lawdog (I'd rather be judged by twelve, than carried by six.)
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To: edcoil
"Did the pastor have an affair with this wife, son, daughter? I believe later in the week we will know.

Oh, PLEASE! What nonsense.

19 posted on 03/08/2009 11:21:48 PM PDT by Irene Adler (Is it possible to be a socially conservative anarchist?)
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