Posted on 03/12/2009 8:37:06 AM PDT by slomark
I don’t think I really disagree with much of that. I definately never said to pray for his success. I think it would be great to pray for his failure at his evil acts but I don’t know if we ought to pray for someone else’s condemnation. Perhaps I’m wrong, I’m not a theologian but as I read and understand the Bible I’m left with the conviction that I ought not do that in the name of Christ.
Of course being saved doesn’t and shouldn’t spare you man’s law. I definately never suggested that.
Jesus came to Earth to die. He was the Lamb of God to be sacrificed. We are God's children and are highly prized by Him, just as you prize your children. Jesus told his followers that they would be persecuted just as He was. He also said to sell their cloak and buy a sword. This sword was for self defense. It was not to go around the world bullying other nations.
What I'm saying is you are mixing up your treatment of people you want to convince that Jesus is "the Way" and those that want to behead you and your family. After we capture and jail Ayres, it would not be inconsistant with visiting him in jail and bring him to the Lord. You are not required by God to allow yourself or your country to be destroyed to follow God.
I said nothing remotely related with that.
36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
I have properly identified my enemies. Barak Hussein 0bama and his cronies are my enemies.
What did Jesus tell us to do regarding our enemies? What did He tell us to do regarding those who hate us and persecute us?
At no point have I eschewed self defense by way of lethal force, either for the individual or for the community.
I merely note that He gave us specific instructions on how to treat our enemies. I am trying, however badly, with His Grace, to carry out those instructions.
Man, I thought this thread was about Ayers.
Am I on the religious discussion thread?
I hate it when that happens.
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